Danny Welbeck | Arsenal player

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ThierryHenry said:
That logic/ claiming he's been a good signing for us only works if the alternative was signing no-one. It shouldn't have been, and Welbeck hasn't looked close to good enough so far.

Admittedly he's in poor form at the moment, but there's been nothing to suggest he's capable of reaching the level we need him to.
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Yes you're spot on about the alternative being, signing no one. A striker heading into 2015 with 4 league goals isn't what you's needed. My Arsenal supporting brother was extremely annoyed with this signing as he felt that it was Wengers time to sign a top level striker and he failed to. The fact that Giroud plays up top when available - and Welbeck back to the wing - says it all.

That posters logic was absolutely bizarre claiming we would have more points and you's would less had the transfer not happened. That would be exactly based on you's signing no one and Welbeck being first choice for us, which he clearly wouldn't be.
 
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m1y2 said:
scored winner today unlike our top star strikers who couldn't convert one of the dozen brilliant chances. His overall game is much better than any of our strikers he would give us the balance what van Gaal is often talking about. He would be perfect as second striker for this game and the games before where we lacked pace and agility in attack, someone who stretch the opposition and run with the ball. Wilson doesn't seem as ready as we thought which is shame, that is what makes me angry, we could have used welbeck a lot this season but maybe not as van persie was always licking van gaals balls which is obviously one of the reason he starts games. Two good games and people are like HE IS BACK trust me. He will never be back his absolute lack of stamina and athleticism drives me really crazy same with Mata who is maybe the slowest player player with Blind and Carrick in the league.. One does not simply end up with strikers like Suarez Aguero or Costa, but we certainly lack speed in the side. Players like welbeck would provide it ..
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There we have it.

Van Persie licks Van Gaals balls. And did you watch Mata today? What about Carrick in our last 8 games?

Yeah Suarez, Aguero and Costa have speed. But they also score lots of goals. Something which Welbeck hasn't looked like doing yet.
 
m1y2 said:
scored winner today unlike our top star strikers who couldn't convert one of the dozen brilliant chances. His overall game is much better than any of our strikers he would give us the balance what van Gaal is often talking about. He would be perfect as second striker for this game and the games before where we lacked pace and agility in attack, someone who stretch the opposition and run with the ball. Wilson doesn't seem as ready as we thought which is shame, that is what makes me angry, we could have used welbeck a lot this season but maybe not as van persie was always licking van gaals balls which is obviously one of the reason he starts games. Two good games and people are like HE IS BACK trust me. He will never be back his absolute lack of stamina and athleticism drives me really crazy same with Mata who is maybe the slowest player player with Blind and Carrick in the league.. One does not simply end up with strikers like Suarez Aguero or Costa, but we certainly lack speed in the side. Players like welbeck would provide it ..
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Wat? Rooney's got more ability and more of an overall game in his left testicle than Welbeck has overall. Not to mention that both RVP and Rooney have scored more in the league than him this season.
 
Bojan11 said:
There we have it.

Van Persie licks Van Gaals balls. And did you watch Mata today? What about Carrick in our last 8 games?

Yeah Suarez, Aguero and Costa have speed. But they also score lots of goals. Something which Welbeck hasn't looked like doing yet.
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We'd have the league stitched up already if we still had him here. I think LvG barely sleeps at night, still ruing the biggest mistake of his career.
 
Cheesy said:
Wat? Rooney's got more ability and more of an overall game in his left testicle than Welbeck has overall. Not to mention that both RVP and Rooney have scored more in the league than him this season.
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rooney doesn't play as striker.. RVP has got 8+2, Welbeck 4+4, thats not far away as he is obviously more useful to the team, we all remember ridiculously awful performances by van persie at the start of the season, last couple of games it isn't any better.. don't let me post welbeck stats out of the league(for the national team and cup games..)
 
MDFC Manager said:
We'd have the league stitched up already if we still had him here. I think LvG barely sleeps at night, still ruing the biggest mistake of his career.
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I think he is sleeping well, thinking otherwise is nonsense but you can think whatever you want.. Personally I got over his selling but I only suggest we would be a better side having a striker of his mould
 
You'd think by now it'd be obvious by everyone that he'll never be a top striker. Some players just don't have 'it'
 
As usual those for and against or too extreme

I am simply of the opinion that he is a very useful player who I would prefer was still a utd player

At times he might have made a difference for us
 
m1y2 said:
rooney doesn't play as striker.. RVP has got 8+2, Welbeck 4+4, thats not far away as he is obviously more useful to the team, we all remember ridiculously awful performances by van persie at the start of the season, last couple of games it isn't any better.. don't let me post welbeck stats out of the league(for the national team and cup games..)
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Where did you get the second 4 from if you weren't posting his stats outside of the league?
 
OneUnited24 said:
So Welbeck rarely provided us with any of that you just mentioned and when he did it was either down a blind alley or being dispossessed, yet you believe he would have done it after he left?

I get it, some here wanted him to succeed and so did I but lets not rewrite history and make him seem like a striker we've been missing this season.
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He actually did it. I know there are obviously fans like you who can see only the end product like goals and assists but he was making space for other players by his runs so often without the ball, with the ball likewise.. I don't particularly miss him but just any pace in the side we lack recently. Either its Aguero, Costa, Suarez, we dont have this kind of player, neither we have someone like Hazard/Sanchez but we will definitely get better after Herrera and Dimaría is back but still we have got one paced striekers, that is why van Gaal prefered wilson in some games but unfortunately he is not ready yet and didn't impress so we must stick to what we have..
 
He has 4 goals and 2 assists in the league and 3 goals and no assists in all other competitions. Don't know where the 4 goals and 4 assists stat came from. RVP is comfortably better in the league.
 
m1y2 said:
He actually did it. I know there are obviously fans like you who can see only the end product like goals and assists but he was making space for other players by his runs so often without the ball, with the ball likewise.. I don't particularly miss him but just any pace in the side we lack recently. Either its Aguero, Costa, Suarez, we dont have this kind of player, neither we have someone like Hazard/Sanchez but we will definitely get better after Herrera and Dimaría is back but still we have got one paced striekers, that is why van Gaal prefered wilson in some games but unfortunately he is not ready yet and didn't impress so we must stick to what we have..
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Firstly i do not only consider goals/assists as the definitive for any player but think they are good indicators of what they can offer. At the end of the day we are not talking about calling your mate to join our 5 a side because he has a good touch, we're talking about one of the top clubs in the world who are looking to get back to the summit so those stats are vital in deciding who is productive enough to get us there. I admire players attributes but we are talking about a striker here not a winger/defensive player so stats like assist and goals play a bigger part. If we stop rating strikers on actual end product and just on flicks i'm sure Danny will be considered world class but we dont (thank god).

Now I dont pretend to watch that many Asnl games but i saw todays and cant say i miss him too much. Sure he got the goal but his overall movement/touch wasnt great, i hardly believe we've missed that pace because from what i saw today (and a few others) he has bags of pace but if he cant threaten with it whats the point? He had one good run today where he shot well wide, now i look at that and am unimpressed because i think he should have tested the keeper. I've seen what Asnl fans have been posting about him on their forums and they arent overly impressed. Its typical a fan fav moves to another club and we instantly remember the good, forgetting its the bad decision making, the lack of threat in the final third and lack of goals that resulted in him leaving. Similar happened to Vidic, Evra and Kagawa in the summer when anyone who watched them last season would tell you they shouldn't start for us
 
m1y2 said:
rooney doesn't play as striker.. RVP has got 8+2, Welbeck 4+4, thats not far away as he is obviously more useful to the team, we all remember ridiculously awful performances by van persie at the start of the season, last couple of games it isn't any better.. don't let me post welbeck stats out of the league(for the national team and cup games..)
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But Rooney's still largely regarded as a striker, and has played there for much of his career. And citing RVP's poor performances while admitting he's still got more goals than Welbeck is hardly an endorsement, is it? Especially when Welbeck has often been average for them himself.
 
m1y2 said:
rooney doesn't play as striker.. RVP has got 8+2, Welbeck 4+4, thats not far away as he is obviously more useful to the team, we all remember ridiculously awful performances by van persie at the start of the season, last couple of games it isn't any better.. don't let me post welbeck stats out of the league(for the national team and cup games..)
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Well ridiculously awful RvP seems to have scored twice as many as Welbeck, so.
 
Welbeck's goal-scoring stats are probably similar to his final season at United. Ok (but not great) when played centrally. Poor when player out wide.

So much more to his game than goals though. We'd be a much more dangerous side with his pace in behind, that's for sure. Force the opposition to defend a bit deeper and create space for Rooney and Mata to exploit. We're far less of a threat than we could be, having two strikers who can be easily out-paced by most defenders.
 
OneUnited24 said:
Firstly i do not only consider goals/assists as the definitive for any player but think they are good indicators of what they can offer. At the end of the day we are not talking about calling your mate to join our 5 a side because he has a good touch, we're talking about one of the top clubs in the world who are looking to get back to the summit so those stats are vital in deciding who is productive enough to get us there. I admire players attributes but we are talking about a striker here not a winger/defensive player so stats like assist and goals play a bigger part. If we stop rating strikers on actual end product and just on flicks i'm sure Danny will be considered world class but we dont (thank god).

Now I dont pretend to watch that many Asnl games but i saw todays and cant say i miss him too much. Sure he got the goal but his overall movement/touch wasnt great, i hardly believe we've missed that pace because from what i saw today (and a few others) he has bags of pace but if he cant threaten with it whats the point? He had one good run today where he shot well wide, now i look at that and am unimpressed because i think he should have tested the keeper. I've seen what Asnl fans have been posting about him on their forums and they arent overly impressed. Its typical a fan fav moves to another club and we instantly remember the good, forgetting its the bad decision making, the lack of threat in the final third and lack of goals that resulted in him leaving. Similar happened to Vidic, Evra and Kagawa in the summer when anyone who watched them last season would tell you they shouldn't start for us
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I think you are right in many ways. I don't personally go to arsenal forum because I have not time to check what they write about anything anyone but from what I heard from my mates who support Arsenal they like him a lot. There are obviously some fans who expected more in term of goals and assists but it really doesn't matter if you play for the team and the team scores from your effort does it ? I always thought that it counts the number of goals you score as a team so it doesn't matter if you are striker and doesn't score double digits every season beacuse you can play really good but perhaps defenders can get on the scoresheet instead of you but it really doesn't matter if you created the chance at the start of the move won the corner or had third assist or scored the goal yourself. The goal counts for the team the same no matter who scores that.. I've watched them quite often this season and he is doing well, I expected maybe a little more but it's his better standard what he did for us with a little more of freedom. Maybe he suits their system better but we need these kind of players also
as I can see barely any pace up front and in counter attacking
 
I always thought that Welbeck was a handy player when he was at United and now he is a handy player for Arsenal. I wasn't too much of a fan of his style of play but would have been happy for him to stay. By the same token I was not too bothered that he left, but the fee was too small I feel.

I was slightly confused by the 'next Thierry Henry' narrative that appeared in the press as soon as he left United, as I think that the player was are seeing now is pretty much maximum Welbeck.
 
Classical Mechanic said:
I always thought that Welbeck was a handy player when he was at United and now he is a handy player for Arsenal. I wasn't too much of a fan of his style of play but would have been happy for him to stay. By the same token I was not too bothered that he left, but the fee was too small I feel.

I think that the player was are seeing now is pretty much maximum Welbeck.
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This is the main thing for me. While I personally like Danny since he's a local lad, the main reason I didnt want him to go was because I felt like it was too early to decide that he wasn't going to improve any more. However there's no question that the Danny we're seeing at Arsenal is just the same one we had at United, so with half the season go, I see no major step up so far.
 
Classical Mechanic said:
I always thought that Welbeck was a handy player when he was at United and now he is a handy player for Arsenal. I wasn't too much of a fan of his style of play but would have been happy for him to stay. By the same token I was not too bothered that he left, but the fee was too small I feel.

I think that the player was are seeing now is pretty much maximum Welbeck.
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Aye. Even though he was ridiculously overrated on here, I liked him but he used to frustrate me massively. I remember during that mental 4-4 match against Everton in 2012, I thought we had a serious player on our hands. He was terrific that day. Unfortunately those days were the exception and not the rule. Even after his double on the opening day against Swansea last season, I got myself excited by him again. And again, he failed to build on that.

I think what we see with him now is basically the player he will be. He's useful but not the top striker that Arsenal needed. I fully expect Arsenal in the next season or two, to invest in a top quality striker that they evidently need.

I think it was stupid selling to a rival and given today's mental transfer market, I think we could have got more had we put him in an open market. I don't think he's going to be a great loss but a loss as a squad player nonetheless (for now anyway).

He will continue to be massively overrated on here and revisionism will play a huge part in that. So-called United fans will also continue to cheer when he scores and big him up while beating Rooney, RvP and Falcao with any stick that they can. It's the weirdest reaction I've ever seen to any of our transfers.
 
m1y2 said:
I think you are right in many ways. I don't personally go to arsenal forum because I have not time to check what they write about anything anyone but from what I heard from my mates who support Arsenal they like him a lot. There are obviously some fans who expected more in term of goals and assists but it really doesn't matter if you play for the team and the team scores from your effort does it ? I always thought that it counts the number of goals you score as a team so it doesn't matter if you are striker and doesn't score double digits every season beacuse you can play really good but perhaps defenders can get on the scoresheet instead of you but it really doesn't matter if you created the chance at the start of the move won the corner or had third assist or scored the goal yourself. The goal counts for the team the same no matter who scores that.. I've watched them quite often this season and he is doing well, I expected maybe a little more but it's his better standard what he did for us with a little more of freedom. Maybe he suits their system better but we need these kind of players also
as I can see barely any pace up front and in counter attacking
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TBF my friends say the same but i think they're being sarcastic and not preved that Wenger didnt get a quality striker.

As for your second point if thats how you see it then i cant blame you but for me the way the a good team works is you have your team set up to support your striker. Now a striker occasionally bringing in midfield and links up with them to score its acceptable but you expect your big men in front to stick chances away. Not make room for others so they might score. At the top level players are extremely specialised. Which is why you never see a CB finish like a striker or midfielders tackle like they're defenders, thats exactly why (for me) a striker should be putting chances away.
 
He hasn't scored much for them in PL, but I think all three goals were winners for Arsenal, right? That's 9 points directly from him, not bad.

As I said, so far unfortunately we would definitely be much better if we kept him instead of paying Falcao's big wages. Let's see if Falcqo can turn it around ind second half.
 
Robbie Boy said:
He will continue to be massively overrated on here and revisionism will play a huge part in that. So-called United fans will also continue to cheer when he scores and big him up while beating Rooney, RvP and Falcao with any stick that they can. It's the weirdest reaction I've ever seen to any of our transfers.
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Yeah, I seem to recall reading the mains and someone saying that he is now a better player than Rooney! I mean Rooney is more effective goalscorer than Welbeck when he is playing in midfield!

Amar__ said:
He hasn't scored much for them in PL, but I think all three goals were winners for Arsenal, right? That's 9 points directly from him, not bad.

As I said, so far unfortunately we would definitely be much better if we kept him instead of paying Falcao's big wages. Let's see if Falcqo can turn it around ind second half.
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What so you think that if we kept Welbeck then we would be first or second? Van Gaal said that he didn't view Welbeck of the quality of a 'starting' player for united so I am not sure how that would have worked.
 
OneUnited24 said:
TBF my friends say the same but i think they're being sarcastic and not preved that Wenger didnt get a quality striker.

As for your second point if thats how you see it then i cant blame you but for me the way the a good team works is you have your team set up to support your striker. Now a striker occasionally bringing in midfield and links up with them to score its acceptable but you expect your big men in front to stick chances away. Not make room for others so they might score. At the top level players are extremely specialised. Which is why you never see a CB finish like a striker or midfielders tackle like they're defenders, thats exactly why (for me) a striker should be putting chances away.
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But that is not always true and you know it. The fact that players are more versatile helps the team fluidity, players can switch their positions and create chances by doing so, that is what chelsea does a lot for example, arsenal as well. The rigid approach you prefer is quite old fashioned in my view but can also work to some extent if executed well. If you want Van Persie scoring goals and finishing the chances then we don't need him and can buy Grant Holt, that's who he reminds me sometimes.. I think he benefits from his name and his friendship with gaffer, nowhere near top class what some people still thinks. I hope he only can get better in his, for striker, ESSENTIAL skill - finishing as he missed couple of sitters today and through the season and so cost us some points.. because apart that he is quite useless, can't press at all, has absolutely terrible stamina and movement, is also often offside as he lacks any piece of pace or acceleration so needs to time it perfectly and often goes too soon (not always his mistake).. his hold up play is okay but often slows the attacks in a final third in promising positions so the opposition players are back.. I just don't see much what he brings to the team apart average number of goals so far. Falcao looks at least like fighting.. but when you look at someone like Costa, you know you are watching different league, pace power, can take players on, perfect hold up play and can still poach a lot of goals, everything in speed, first I thought he was overrated when he came in but he is not he is brilliant.. You don't want hear anything about Aguero as he is maybe the best player in the league, great numbers and perfect overall play, can create chances for him and for the team because he is not just finisher but perfect dribbler, can go past players, doesn't slow attacks down.. Not saying we need exactly welbeck but I think we would do better as a team with him.. I don't like the idea that defender only needs to defend and striker only scores the goals, maybe if they are absolutely top class and the team works for them, but there are so many players in the team that other players need to work for them. That is the point and Van Persie is not top class, no more.
 
Classical Mechanic said:
What so you think that if we kept Welbeck then we would be first or second? Van Gaal said that he didn't view Welbeck of the quality of a 'starting' player for united so I am not sure how that would have worked.
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I don't know what van Gaal thinks, but my point is that he is having better season than Falcao.
 
Amar__ said:
He hasn't scored much for them in PL, but I think all three goals were winners for Arsenal, right? That's 9 points directly from him, not bad.

As I said, so far unfortunately we would definitely be much better if we kept him instead of paying Falcao's big wages. Let's see if Falcqo can turn it around ind second half.
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Do you think Chelsea look at how many points Mata has won us this season and think "Dam we should have kept him". The answer is no, they didnt need him in their team and let him go. It was the same with Welbeck, we didnt need him and got a replacement who has proven he can score goals for fun. Granted atm hes out of form but give how little his played (is it 6 or 7 full games for us sitting with 2 goals and 3 assist) his contribution hasnt been all that bad.

My point is had Welbeck stayed he wouldnt have played given how LvG didnt fancy him as a striker to lead the line for us and as a result i doubt he would have got any more goals than Falcao.
 
m1y2 said:
But that is not always true and you know it. The fact that players are more versatile helps the team fluidity, players can switch their positions and create chances by doing so, that is what chelsea does a lot for example, arsenal as well. The rigid approach you prefer is quite old fashioned in my view but can also work to some extent if executed well. If you want Van Persie scoring goals and finishing the chances then we don't need him and can buy Grant Holt, that's who he reminds me sometimes.. I think he benefits from his name and his friendship with gaffer, nowhere near top class what some people still thinks. I hope he only can get better in his, for striker, ESSENTIAL skill - finishing as he missed couple of sitters today and through the season and so cost us some points.. because apart that he is quite useless, can't press at all, has absolutely terrible stamina and movement, is also often offside as he lacks any piece of pace or acceleration so needs to time it perfectly and often goes too soon (not always his mistake).. his hold up play is okay but often slows the attacks in a final third in promising positions so the opposition players are back.. I just don't see much what he brings to the team apart average number of goals so far. Falcao looks at least like fighting.. but when you look at someone like Costa, you know you are watching different league, pace power, can take players on, perfect hold up play and can still poach a lot of goals, everything in speed, first I thought he was overrated when he came in but he is not he is brilliant.. You don't want hear anything about Aguero as he is maybe the best player in the league, great numbers and perfect overall play, can create chances for him and for the team because he is not just finisher but perfect dribbler, can go past players, doesn't slow attacks down.. Not saying we need exactly welbeck but I think we would do better as a team with him.. I don't like the idea that defender only needs to defend and striker only scores the goals, maybe if they are absolutely top class and the team works for them, but there are so many players in the team that other players need to work for them. That is the point and Van Persie is not top class, no more.
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Of course there are exceptions, Rooney being the most obvious. Even when hes not scoring hes still contributing.

My point stands, yes its great to have a striker who has a good all round game. In an ideal world you would have 10 Rooneys playing outfield who could do any job on the pitch but no we tend to have players who can defended and players who can put the ball into the back of the net. If a striker who is paid to do the latter cant get on the score sheet enough he either has to play another position (which Welbeck didnt like) or has to move on.

Finally, dude you have to start using paragraphs - that was hard to read!
 
It was typical that he'd score his first goal in a while on the same day our players hit a stalemate.
 
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Do you think Chelsea look at how many points Mata has won us this season and think "Dam we should have kept him". The answer is no, they didnt need him in their team and let him go. It was the same with Welbeck, we didnt need him and got a replacement who has proven he can score goals for fun. Granted atm hes out of form but give how little his played (is it 6 or 7 full games for us sitting with 2 goals and 3 assist) his contribution hasnt been all that bad.

My point is had Welbeck stayed he wouldnt have played given how LvG didnt fancy him as a striker to lead the line for us and as a result i doubt he would have got any more goals than Falcao.
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Chelsea sit in first place, play good football and have found good replacemants for Mata, and made a lot of cash for him - we didn't do any of those things.

As for the second part, in Falcao's absence we played with Wilson who looks nowhere near as good as Welbeck so I doubt he wouldn't have played if he stayed and we didn't buy Falcao.
 
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Amazing?

Do you have the stats handy? As in how many games he played centrally
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Well, look man, if we take into consideration only the games when Welbeck scored, he has pretty great stats. In fact, if we take into consideration only the minutes when he scored goals, he may be even the greatest ever.
 
Amar__ said:
Chelsea sit in first place, play good football and have found good replacemants for Mata, and made a lot of cash for him - we didn't do any of those things.

As for the second part, in Falcao's absence we played with Wilson who looks nowhere near as good as Welbeck so I doubt he wouldn't have played if he stayed and we didn't buy Falcao.
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So in your mind Falcao isnt a good enough replacement for Welbeck - i'm just going to let that season for a little... But we also made a lot of cash of Welbeck too, £16m to be exact. In Chelsea's case they only made a £13m profit of Mata given they brought him for £24m. Also the point still stands, lets say we finish strong in the second half of the season and win a FA cup final vs Chelsea with Mata scoring, would Chelsea fans regret selling Mata? Heck no because he didnt fit their style and they moved forward as a team. Its similar to Welbeck except that he just wasnt good enough here and was moved on.

I'd disagree. Had Welbeck stayed and we did not go in for Falcao I can bet Rooney would be up top with RvP and Mata behind, with whoever's fit in midfield.

Finally, Wilson is 5 years younger than Welbeck. Granted you can say Welbeck would be better instead of him given that hes a lot more experienced but LvG clearly thinks hes one for the future that will develop. Sure he isnt hitting his stride right now but thats not saying there isnt some potential there. I mean it was only a few months ago we were all excited over Wilson but now after a few bad performances people want to write him off. Strange... no not that weird here! At the end of the day LvG clearly thinks Wilson will become a better player than Welbeck and will give him a chance at the first team to gain that valuable first team experience - which Welbecks presence would have restricted.
 
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OneUnited24 said:
So in your mind Falcao isnt a good enough replacement for Welbeck - i'm just going to let that season for a little... But we also made a lot of cash of Welbeck too, £16m to be exact. In Chelsea's case they only made a £13m profit of Mata given they brought him for £24m. Also the point still stands, lets say we finish strong in the second half of the season and win a FA cup final vs Chelsea with Mata scoring, would Chelsea fans regret selling Mata? Heck no because he didnt fit their style and they moved forward as a team. Its similar to Welbeck except that he just wasnt good enough here and was moved on.

Finally, Wilson is 5 years younger than Welbeck who is still learning the trade. Clearly LvG thought he was one for the future that will develop even if he isnt hitting his stride right now, it was only a few months ago we were all excited over Wilson but a few bad performances and hes never going to make it. Lord Welbeck had plenty of those and you're making him sound like he was some kind of saviour!
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Why do you keep mentioning Mata? It's a completely different story, they have sold Mata and they'll probably win the tittle with some other players they signed with money from Mata(they wouldn't have brought them because of ffp if it wasn't for money from Mata), we sold Welbeck and we'll pay Falcao's enormous wages without him actually earning them, completely different story.

Finishing strong as finishing third? That's not exactly a big achievemant considering how crap other teams apart from Chelsea and City look. We are third even with Falcao missing almost half of the season. The fact is, Falcao is brought to score at least 20 goals this season, which by the looks of it he won't come even close, and his overall play isn't strongest aspect of his game either, so we could definitely finish third even without splashing so much cash on his wages and kept Welbeck instead.
 
That run he made up the left wing is exactly what we've been missing. It's the lack of a counter-attacking threat that has allowed teams to push up high and pressurise our defenders.
 
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