Danny Welbeck | Arsenal player

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Invictus said:
Sorry @Viral United but I just can't rationalize those opinions.

At the given time, he wasn't due to train or play in a match. So, United shouldn't have a professional cause for concern, unless he was mixed up in some criminal activity (which he wasn't) or ruining his fitness which is partial property of the club (again which he wasn't). Do you want the player's personal lives to be micromanaged ?

Also, didn't Fergie share a bottle of wine with most opposition managers irrespective of the result ? So, using your logic wasn't he being irresponsible too ?
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Well its my opinion, what I think what I believe,
I got angry at that time when I see those photos, and I can't denied it.

I don't want Player's personal lives to be micro manage by club but, it would be good if they got some professional advice to how to behave in public.
Because like it or not media is no one friend.

If I am not wrong didn't Welbeck, Young were charge by club for this?
 
Viral United said:
Well its my opinion, what I think what I believe,
I got angry at that time when I see those photos, and I can't denied it.

I don't want Player's personal lives to be micro manage by club but, it would be good if they got some professional advice to how to behave in public.
Because like it or not media is no one friend.

If I am not wrong didn't Welbeck, Young were charge by club for this?
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The first bolded statement is laughable.

Yes they were punished and this caused quite a big fall out between Moyes & Giggs.
 
This crap comes up every so often and it is always good for a laugh at how some supporters imagine footballers are supposed to behave.

Remember too and a few others attending a boxing match after losing to Chelsea a few seasons back? They even attended with some Chelsea players! Oh the horrors!

Then SA F has been critisized in the past for attending horse races right after loses. How dare he?!

Etc etc


Remember the are people not slaves not robots you can not control and piss on everything they do in life
 
Cassidy said:
Believe me they don't just go out in London to one of those fancy nightclubs and you'll see.
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Well we can agree or disagree in this then.
Cassidy said:
The first bolded statement is laughable.

Yes they were punished and this caused quite a big fall out between Moyes & Giggs.
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Well dont know what is laughable in that,

Also don't know about Moyes & Giggs, but I think Welbeck got upset on this, And first time he give hint of moving isn't it?
 
Viral United said:
Well we can agree or disagree in this then.

Well dont know what is laughable in that,

Also don't know about Moyes & Giggs, but I think Welbeck got upset on this, And first time he give hint of moving isn't it?
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No he first gave hints about wanting to leave when Moyes said he wasn't traning hard enough and he told Danny to train harder and do extra shooting practice after training and now hes scoring goals. Danny took exception to this Moyes trying to take credit for his goalscoring form.

Giggs has publical come out and said he thought Moyes was too harsh on punishing the young players for going out after the game, and he urged him not to.
 
Cassidy said:
No he first gave hints about wanting to leave when Moyes said he wasn't traning hard enough and he told Danny to train harder and do extra shooting practice after training and now hes scoring goals. Danny took exception to this Moyes trying to take credit for his goalscoring form.

Giggs has publical come out and said he thought Moyes was too harsh on punishing the young players for going out after the game, and he urged him not to.
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He also gave an interview around that time saying he didn't enjoy playing on the left wing in a 442. Which is understandable, when you consider his England career was starting to take off and he was starting to score a lot more regularly as a striker, for club and country. In the same interview, he stressed that he didn't mind playing on the left of a 433.

By all accounts, after the world cup he was more than willing to stay and fight for his place under Van Gaal (someone who came with a reputation of almost never playing 442) Next thing he knows, he's being punted around mid-table clubs.

This whole debate has been done to death so it's got very circular and boring. Just a shame that we haven't had Welbeck as an option ahead of RvP and Januzaj as the lone striker or wide player in a 433. I suspect we would have been far more threatening with work-rate and pace in behind had he been available these last few weeks. At the very least, coming off the bench. Not to mention that Arsenal would have been completely screwed. Sanchez has been the one to profit from Danny's selfless work up front, when it should really have been Di Maria or Rooney. Ho hum. C'est la vie.

Part of me is ok with the fact that young Wilson is getting minutes he might not get otherwise but I do think a definitive decision about our strikers could have waited until next summer and I'm really unsure why we felt the need to go all out and sign Falcao. I certainly don't believe any of our problems in recent years have had anything to do with a lack of quality and options up front.
 
People getting upset about a player having a few drinks after a game, honest to God.

Folks, there are lives out there. Go get one.
 
peterstorey said:
Nearly as daft as us letting Fabregas go to Chelsea.
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No way near close, barely a comparison in fact. You guys probably would have competed with Chelsea for the league title right now if he had gone to the Emirates. Instead they're running away with it.
 
peterstorey said:
Nearly as daft as us letting Fabregas go to Chelsea.
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:lol:

World class midfielder Fabregas going to an already great team in Chelsea

Debatably not even top class Welbeck going to a perennial bottling team in Arsenal

Yeah, it's nearly the same.
 
FlawlessThaw said:
No way near close, barely a comparison in fact. You guys probably would have competed with Chelsea for the league title right now if he had gone to the Emirates. Instead they're running away with it.
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They really wouldn't, even if they signed Fabregas, Arsenal would still need a centre-half and a defensive midfielder like Matic or Schneiderlin.
 
bucky said:
They really wouldn't, even if they signed Fabregas, Arsenal would still need a centre-half and a defensive midfielder like Matic or Schneiderlin.
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I don't think they would have won the title but with Fabregas and Sanchez, they would definitely have been up there.
 
I can imagine it now...

"Hey Danny, you coming down the pub for a drink tonight?"

"No Ashley, some guys on the internet reckon you are shit so I had better not..."
 
Not trying to be argumentative, your points are all well-taken. I just have one hypothetical question: how would you guys have felt last season if Moyes was spotted out drinking at 3am after that loss against Bayern?

As a fan, who obviously has never played professional football, I guess it is natural for some of us to have unrealistic expectations of those in such positions. Sort of like, "well I would give anything to be on the United squad and look at these guys just acting like a bunch of normal lads out on the town..." I take your point that it's not fair for us to inflect our own personal views onto others, and as long as the drinking is not excessive or staying out late does not affect your training/sleep cycle, I have no problem with it.
 
Very good goals? Jesus, I know some of you lot adore him, but come on. One was scrappy and the other was a composed finish but easy chance.
 
Robbie Boy said:
Very good goals? Jesus, I know some of you lot adore him, but come on. One was scrappy and the other was a composed finish but easy chance.
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First one was crap, I agree, but the second one was pure class. The touch to bring it down and slot it past the on-rushing keeper highlights why people rate his ability so high. Instinctively he's a top class striker IMO.
 
To say that the second goal was an "easy chance" ignores the excellent build-up play between him and Sterling completely.
 
GE said:
Haters gonna hate.
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Hater? You deciphered from my post that I 'hate' him? I hate the way some people carry on when it comes him but have nothing against the player whatsoever.

I think you're unbelievably blinkered if you think the first goal was great. I mean seriously. He was poor in the first half but dramatically improved and had a very good second half. The second goal was good composure but the first was scrappy and appeared up to go in, in slow motion. I didn't know it was obligatory to bump this thread every time he scores. He has been relatively poor for Arsenal recently and it has been relatively quiet. Strange.
 
Kag said:
The second goal is quite clearly a very well worked goal in all aspects.
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The poster should have stated that instead of being dramatic and saying "two great goals" - when the first was clearly scrappy. I alluded to the fact that the second was good composure but the defence was erm suspect nonetheless. I wouldn't call it a "great goal" but that's my perogative and maybe I expect better before I use the term "great goal".
 
Looked really good again today, good link up and finishing and looking like he is relishing the pressure of being England's no.9. An absolute snip for the Arse at under 20 million squid, still hurts to see him flourishing in a gooner shirt. Fair play to the lad though, grasping his opportunities at club & ininternational level with real maturity and class.
 
Robbie Boy said:
Hater? You deciphered from my post that I 'hate' him? I hate the way some people carry on when it comes him but have nothing against the player whatsoever.

I think you're unbelievably blinkered if you think the first goal was great. I mean seriously. He was poor in the first half but dramatically improved and had a very good second half. The second goal was good composure but the first was scrappy and appeared up to go in, in slow motion. I didn't know it was obligatory to bump this thread every time he scores. He has been relatively poor for Arsenal recently and it has been relatively quiet. Strange.
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He scores two international goals and someone flippantly commends his performance in his thread and it works you up into a little frendzy where you have to disagree to the point you analyse both goals in order to explain why it's stupid that he said "two great goals".

I mean, seriously, he made a 7 word post and you give it that reaction?
 
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