Danny Welbeck | Arsenal player

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no because if that was the case balotelli would have had more than 1 goal at liverpool with terrible work rate while Welbeck would be contributing to Arsenal's overall play while barely scoring. You can use what they did for their past teams to gauge what they are good at or where they can improve. But they have to solely be judged for what they've done for their current team, what are the positives, what are the negatives, is the forecast great ? if not then how much more patience do you need before making a judgement on the player.
Taking the negatives at their previous teams when making a judgement on their current situation would incite bias. Especially when they aren't having the same problems they've had in their past teams(in Balotelli's case).

Well the point about what the Milan president said would indicate that Balotelli's attitude wasn't right whilst with them. I certainly don't think his work rate has been shit, in fact, it's probably better than at times when I saw him at City. But as I said, when the chips are down, he has demonstrated that he can be prone to lose interest. I mean, the hysteria around here about how unbelievably shit he is, is just that, hysteria. He clearly is a far better player than what he has shown so far.

As for bias? If anything, I would have been accused of underrating Welbeck, around these parts. I don't think he's anywhere near as good as some make him out to be. Arsenal clearly bought him based on the qualities that they saw and Wenger must feel he can work further with him and improve him. Can he turn him into a top striker? For me, it remains to be seen. He has little or no competition for his place at present and will continue to get games, whether he is scoring or not.

Anyway, I have a very balanced view on both players, I would have thought. I have neither written them off nor have I indicated that either will set the world alight. I do have reservations about both, but lets just see how they fare. In terms of Balotelli, though, there is surely more to come - in terms of Welbeck; well what he has shown so far at Arsenal, seems fairly par for the course from what I saw during his United days; some good, some bad.

I don't think we were wrong to sell Welbeck, especially based on the fact that I have watched him for so many years. My issue would be that it was ridiculous to sell him to a rival in a desperate situation for such a small fee. That, is my only issue regarding his sale. He's a player I would have liked to keep, but it wasn't to be and his sale has been completely blown out of all proportion by people on here and the media. The hysteria surrounding the transfer will continue for the forseeable future.
 
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Hmm thats odd..no posts tonight about Welbeck??
that performance was to be expected. he has looked poor everytime they play in a 4141. No space and the 2 CMs are making the runs he should be making.

its weird that wenger wants to keep on playing in this formation because of Ramsey and Wilshere.
 
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Rooney suspended, Falcao injured, RVP woefully out of form.

I tell you who we could do with today...
 
Probably get a load of flack for this, but anyone else think we could really do with Welbeck right now?

We have absolutely no pace or physical presence up top atm, two things that Welbeck has in abundance. I reckon he'd be a far better fit for the team then RVP is right now.

Rooney suspended, Falcao injured, RVP woefully out of form.

I tell you who we could do with today...


Can you stop bumping this thread just to post this shit?
 
Can you stop bumping this thread just to post this shit?

No. Not until it stops being an issue.

The decision to get rid is looking dafter and dafter as every week goes by.
 
No. Not until it stops being an issue.

The decision to get rid is looking dafter and dafter as every week goes by.
It's done. It's no longer an issue, you whinging about it every week isn't gonna do anything.
 
It's done. It's no longer an issue, you whinging about it every week isn't gonna do anything.

Its a massive issue. We're going into a match with Chelsea with one, woefully out of form, senior striker.
 
Was awful yesterday. No better than RvP was in his last game

Yeah, it's all "Grass is greener" bullshit. Welbeck never made an impact here, can we stop acting like we're missing him like Ronaldo?
 
Its a massive issue. We're going into a match with Chelsea with one, woefully out of form, senior striker.
We have three, on their day, world class strikers. 1 of them is suspended the other is injured. What can you do? Welbeck didn't want to stick around.
 
We have three, on their day, world class strikers. 1 of them is suspended the other is injured. What can you do? Welbeck didn't want to stick around.

2 of whom are injury prone, and the other recovering from a serious knee injury. It was a stupid risk to take.

Welbeck didn't want to stick around because he was basically told he wouldn't play much, which was stupid.
 
2 of whom are injury prone, and the other recovering from a serious knee injury. It was a stupid risk to take.

Welbeck didn't want to stick around because he was basically told he wouldn't play much, which was stupid.
Welbeck isn't good enough to be a long term first choice striker for us. It's as simple as that.
 
So the same as RVP and more then Falcao.

Its not even just about the goals. Right now we have no other option but RVP.

I'd still take current RVP over Welbeck.

Shit as he is, at least once upon a time RVP was actually a goal threat, we might get lucky and he'll suddenly remember it.
 
He's better then the current RVP. And Falcao hasn't done anything at United yet to justify kicking Welbeck out. He can't even get fit atm.
Both RVP and Falcao are proven world class strikers and game changers on their day, Welbeck isn't.
 
Yeah, two years ago.
Falcao is 28. RVP has never been pace dependant so I don't see it effecting him too much. If he continues like this till May I'll agree.
 
Not the best time to call for him considering he was a non-entity yesterday versus Sunderland and has been in the last few games I've watched. I'm a lot more confident with van Persie leading the line than I would be with Welbeck.
 
He got a good assist and provides the athleticism and workrate required of a lone #9, but still needs the strike rate to progress.
 
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