WhoScored website can go suck a dick. Just watch the match you loons.
Danny Welbeck | Arsenal player
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Or you could go back two posts where you referenced MY opinion on Welbeck?
"There is no evidence whatsoever that your opinion will be more credible."
Seems pretty comprehensive that you were referencing my opinion no?
Typo error on behalf, which I later articulated who my arguments and points was directed to. The context of my post was clear towards whose opinion I was directing that point of my argument to. The other side of my argument was directed at your disregard of forming an opinion with the aid of statistical analysis. People who stress insignificant factors like whether I formed an opinion or not does not help contribute to the whole picture of this argument which was Welbeck performance and the importance of statistical analysis.
A typo! What were you meant to type then? You seem incapable of reading anything ive reading without having a predetermined response. Please indicate at what point ive stated using stats to aid an opinion is pointless? Ive continously repeated that an opinion based puring on whoscored is stupid, not that stats were pointless - I suppose that error was a typo as well. I know you're wrong, you know you're wrong, anyone who's been bothered to follow this train wreck of a conversation know you're wrong, just admit you misread my original comment and avoid making a tit of yourself further.
The bold part - This thread was derailed by you taking umbrage to an opinion I didn't make - not me.
"Their opinion" was what was meant as multiple post was directed at the two argument aforementioned in my last post. Whoscored is a football statistic website, so the point you made about Whoscored and stats are correlated. Please elabotate what I am wrong about. The only person that derailed this thread seems to be you who came into this thread without any intention to talk about the topic of this thread. Instead, to talk about the insignificancy of Whoscored.
Your first post in this argument. "Whoscored said that? I guess that says it all." very informative and noobish. So once again, who derailed this thread? If you have no intention to form an opinion about his performance, what was your point coming in here? To troll? To make childish comment? I want to know. If it was to dash the credibility of whoscored "a statistical site," then good for you. You haven't convinced me otherwise as it is a great site to help formulate an opinion about a player performance. "Alongside watching the match."
You tell me? Presumably it's a misunderstanding on your part because the post you've quoted said he was "a big reason why..." which is very different to him being the reason why they lost. He wasn't the sole reason why they lost nor was he the main reason why they were losing. He was one of the reasons...and for me he was one of the main ones, in the sense that they lacked any real threat in part because their only striker was very subdued and did most of his best work 25 yards from goal.
This thread is comedy gold.
Not really, it was very much a light, nonchalant comment which you've taken great offense to, leading to a page and a half of you showing what a penis you can be.
Its a forum, the purpose is to share your opinion and allow others to do the same. Having read your posts of self aggrandisement I can understand this concept may seem a little alien to you, someone whos self confessed vast knowledge and experience on such subjects wouldn't care for the opinions of those lesser than you right? But I do ask you of one thing though, please try and read other peoples posts before taking offense to them, for the umpteenth time I haven't made any disparaging comments about whoscored whatsoever, its people who form their 'own' opinion based solely on stats from a website that irrates me - do you finally understand the difference?
Nice turn in this thread.
I would like to apologize for the ruckus I initiated in this thread.
You assumed that I based my opinion solely on Whoscored, which was never the case. Next time try to formulate a more accurate opinion if you are going to direct your post in response to the one I made about Welbeck rating on Whoscored website.
Someone who was a big reason or in your opinion the main reason would have had much worst statistical rating. This is one thing individuals can resort to when we can not find an agreement between our opinion when watching the game. I did not see him as the main reason or the big reason, while you did. I doubt what I will say from watching the game will convince you otherwise, as such I used statistical evidence to show what you claimed is not close to the truth. Nevertheless, people are allowed to form opinions on this forum no matter how wrong they are, so I really do not gain nothing from proving you otherwise beside self pride and perhaps peers acclaimation.
I thought the main reason why they lost was because of the diame foul not being called and poor positioning from the CB?
Feck me this is getting painful. I've had enough, its like arguing with a 7 year old who has just discovered a thesaurus.
Hasn't he basically done what all United fans thought he would? Scored a few goals against nothing sides and flattered to deceive in bigger fixtures.
Welbeck is well capable of getting to around the 20 goal mark when consistently played up front, but that's not really a significant upgrade on Giroud.
Welbeck is well capable of getting to around the 20 goal mark when consistently played up front, but that's not really a significant upgrade on Giroud.
Next thing you know you'll be telling me Delfouneso > Pato.
I thought he'd fit the team like a glove with his willingness to get involved in the build-up, his one touch play, his presence, his pace and his pressing but I don't think that's happened at all. He'll be a decent option for them but I'm not convinced he's going to be first choice by the end of the season, whereas before I was pretty certain of it.
It understandable that this is what you had to resort. As stated before, next time formulate a better opinion and make a better assumption. I can not be consistently educating individuals about football.
What the feck??
I don't know whats worse - your I'll thought out opinion , your unwaiving big headedness or your one man assault on grammar. Still, at least you've got the cafe on your side.
Sold Welbeck, kept slowpoke RVP, solid.
I don't know whats worse - your I'll thought out opinion , your unwaiving big headedness or your one man assault on grammar. Still, at least you've got the cafe on your side.
Words of a man that has not got a clue about football. Resorting to personal insult as his last option and consistently changing subject.
Says the man that's getting lambasted by half the cafe
Not going to play the insult game, because I am better than that and I am much confident in my football acumenSays the man that's getting lambasted by half the cafe
I didn't think this thread could get any worse but somehow it has.
Someone has to be.Not going to play the insult game, because I am better than that and I am much confident in my football acumen
i dont understand why some always resort to insult when the fallacies in their thinking is challenged. It's like if you disagree with something somebody has said, just formulate a well thought-out rebuttal. I thought that's what forum discussions were supposed to be about?Not going to play the insult game, because I am better than that and I am much confident in my football acumen
Exactly
. It is not the first time this has happened to me. Nevertheless, this thread has been derailed, I am going to try and ignore this argument for now and hope the next few post gets this thread back on topic.Probably get a load of flack for this, but anyone else think we could really do with Welbeck right now?
We have absolutely no pace or physical presence up top atm, two things that Welbeck has in abundance. I reckon he'd be a far better fit for the team then RVP is right now.
We have absolutely no pace or physical presence up top atm, two things that Welbeck has in abundance. I reckon he'd be a far better fit for the team then RVP is right now.
My view on the subject is I still cant believe we sold him to Arse, think how badly they'd be struggling without him. Not saying he's setting the world alight but their team would look much worse without him.
Considering Arsenal are a direct competitor for the top 4, we made a mistake in selling Welbeck to them. Fair enough he wasn't needed here and hasn't set Arsenal alight yet but to strengthen an opposition and possibly jeopardise top 4 was stupid.
I don't think we should have sold him to Arsenal and I think we could have got more money for him. In saying that, I don't feel he would have made any difference this season whatsoever. He's a fairly average player.
Been the case for at least 12 months now, probably longer.
Frustrates me that so many people on here are only just starting to notice RvPs waning powers. And don't even get me started on our manager's blind spot about a player he's worked so closely with over the same period of time.
Yet you're constantly in here. You just can't help yourself, can you?
Kind of a pot calling the kettle black situation really?
You could say that, except I don't mind being in this thread. You, on the other hand.....
You could say that, except I don't mind being in this thread. You, on the other hand.....
You're not making any sense whatsoever. I came in yesterday as it was bumped and found two posters bickering over irrelevant nonsense and thus made a comment. I'll continue to post my views in here as I assume you will. We don't agree with one another's views on Welbeck and that's just fine with me, really. It's what makes the forum interesting; diverse opinions and all that.
I like Danny and think he's having a good season with Arsenal so far and will prove a lot of people wrong but please tell me what could he have brought to the team yesterday that would have propelled us to a win?? Could he have been a better RM than januzaj? If so what would he have done differently? Could he have positioned himself better so Berahino wouldn't have been through on goal? Could he have played a better game than Herrera or Mata? We had a few issues yesterday and RVP not having pace was last on the list.
With him up top we'd have been far more likely to open West Brom up, as he actually has the pace to beat the defensive line. We couldn't get anything in behind their backline, apart from that one time when Lescott dallied on the ball and RVP nicked it. Everything was played infront of their defence, and when RVP did make runs he just didn't have the pace to threaten. Welbeck would also have been able to close down their defenders far more then the combination of RVP and Mata can.
What? Did you see how badly we stood off them. Neville highlighted it at half time.
RVP's work rate up there simply isnt good enough as a lone front man, especially away from home.
Welbeck is one of the best around in that respect, in the context of side with Mata, Di Maria in midfield its an invaluable attribute to have and something we lacked badly last night.
You're not making any sense whatsoever. I came in yesterday as it was bumped and found two posters bickering over irrelevant nonsense and thus made a comment. I'll continue to post my views in here as I assume you will. We don't agree with one another's views on Welbeck and that's just fine with me, really. It's what makes the forum interesting; diverse opinions and all that.
How I'm not making any sense whatsoever, I don't know. I don't mind diverse opinions. Like you said, it's what makes the forum interesting. However, the fact that you constantly moan about the thread and continue to post in it baffles me. It's like saying you don't like a girl but constantly keep going back to pleasure her. That sir, is what makes no sense whatsoever.
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