Danny Welbeck | Arsenal player

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Don't encourage him.
That's a worldclass piece of showboating, Messi or Storey just glance it in without getting feet off the ground (in fact RvP more or less does this only adding the exaggerated and unnecessary flip once the deal is sealed). He was pretty shit in the world cup.
 
Even if RvP isn't world class anymore it still doesn't change the fact that both Rooney and Falcao should start ahead of Welbeck in the front two positions anyway. He wanted and needed to play regularly and that simply wasn't going to happen here.

As for the future, I'd like to think we'll be able to find a better striker than Welbeck when that time comes anyway.
 
That's a worldclass piece of showboating, Messi or Storey just glance it in without getting feet off the ground (in fact RvP more or less does this only adding the exaggerated and unnecessary flip once the deal is sealed). He was pretty shit in the world cup.
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That mockney hasn't heard of gfycat?

This is genuinely true. And considering the name alone contains two of the worst things about the entire internet; bad spelling and cats, it would only annoy me.

In fact, it already has. feck you.
 
I do not agree with that. You have to understand where LVG is coming from. He has to get us into the top 4. He cannot put all his hopes into an unproven 23 year old striker. Especially with a team as unbalanced as ours.

A good, sensible post. Pity there aren't more of these about in this trainwreck of a thread.
 
The choice between Welbeck and Falcao was rather simple.

Yeah, we already have an English (British-European) superstar, we need a South American one so we can sell some shirts there ?

Agree with what you said though.
 
I thought you were pulling our plonker and the deal would collapse at 11.59pm due to some late invented 'issue' over payment terms or some other pretext. When you see Long going for £12m and Lukaku for £28m, you have to say it's a ridiculous steal (without factoring in our lack of any credible striker until January). Why on earth did you do it?

Because he wasn't willing to play a bit part role anymore and the arrival of Falcao was curtains for him. From what I have heard, we tried desperately to get him out on a loan deal but he wouldn't budge. Still massively disappointed by the money we got out of you specially with your obvious desperation in the striker department.
 
Everyone wins, as far as I'm concerned. The lad deserves all the success he gets. These days I like to see Arsenal doing well, especially in the CL given that we're not involved. And while I'd love him still to be at United, the club haven't really lost out because it's clear now that he was never going to get this sort of real chance to shine for us.

Thats the key issue though ?
 
of course you can but the manner in which you are trying to justify your point is irrational.

Thats like a RM(in 2000) fan saying "well we let Eto go b/c Raul is world class and Eto will never be that".... see how much sense that makes??
My opinion on Welbeck makes perfect sense because I've seen him play an abundance of times for my club.
 
He scored a hat trick against a shitty defense that let him run from behind - I'm not surprised. There are not that many defenses like that in the PL thou. It was the right thing we let him go, but we should've sold him for more money and not to a direct rival. Woody should've done better...
 
Meh... Arsenal has always won the games they are supposed to win, while failing completely once things get a little tough. The moment Welbeck starts to consistently win games against Chelsea, City, Liverpool or us, I might raise an eyebrow. But only then.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Welbeck will never be United starting XI quality. He is however an excellent backup striker. But is that enough for him? Hardly.

Didn't Suarez fail to score against any top 4 last season?
 
He scored a hat trick against a shitty defense that let him run from behind - I'm not surprised. There are not that many defenses like that in the PL thou. It was the right thing we let him go, but we should've sold him for more money and not to a direct rival. Woody should've done better...
again be more logical with the criticism. he got behind City and Dortmund too, he just didn't convert those chances. Are those shitty defenses?
 
Happy for him, knew he'd score goals. Wish we still had him :(
 
No it's not a mistake, he wasn't wanted here and deserved to get his wish, arsenal were the only CL club interested in him, why ruin his chances of joining a good club? is this how we repay his loyalty? we don't want you and we don't want your success to hurt us so please do us a favor and join a shitty club instead.

Something like that, I know it's very cruel but I couldn't give a feck about it. Utd is the priority and will always be. I don't understand how people say if we don't get top 4 anyway, we weren't good enough. We aren't competing in a league different than Arsenal, if they get the spot that we want and Welbeck has helped them get there, then it'll feel really a really stupid mistake. Everything is connected.
 
It's a win-win situation. We should be happy for Danny, but I hope he doesn't score on us when we meet.
 
Will everything positive he does be met with sarcasm? It's quite sad that people use this to dampen anything good he does and then rip the shit out of him when he makes a mistake. I think the people who think he is a good player or/and think he will become a very good one in the future accept his flaws. The other side (if you can call it that) genuinely have this hope he will fail and that anything good he does is a fluke. 'Oh, I bet he will miss next game though'. Yeah, so do most players playing themselves into a role they didn't get enough time in when they were younger (or breaking through at least).
I couldn't agree more with this.
 
Its not only about the hattrick, I think he scored around 6 goals in all competitions (including internationals) already over past couple of weeks. He managed to score more than any of our players so far this season.
 
Christ almighty, is there a re-sign clause in his contract? :lol::nervous:

In all seriousness the Gala defence was so shite. Now I can only hope he plays a blinder against Chelsea at the weekend revert back to his usual self.
 
Slightly more than a hattrick against Galatasaray does.
Or a hattrick against Olympiacos in last 16 to send his team to the quarter-finals. He was very good even in our last game against West Ham tbh and scored 2 in the last 2. Yes not in form over a year....
 
Stop dreaming about Welbz

He wasn't good when he played upfront the season we lost the title for a point. He scored goals, but didn't managed to win us the title, Wazza was to alone upfront. We saw the year after that Fergie bought Kagawa (in order to play Wazza as the main striker), and then RVP, and this guy won us the title.

Welbz can score goals, and he's on a side that is playing well and together since 3 years now, but he'll not become a new Henry like they all said.

So the question is debatable, but I think that it was better for us and him that he left. Excepting the fact that he's an academy player and a Mancunian, he wasn't good enough for our standing and he rarely proved us that he can be a top player and the leader we needed for 6 month or a season long. He no more than an other Sturridge. He'll play well when the team is going well and he'll be shit when the team is so

As far I'm concerned, I rather have Falcao than him. This guy wins you title when he's fit, Surrounded by RVP, Wazza, Mata and Di Maria, I think that we'll have here players that can win you games and some that can win you trophies, and Welbz is not part of these categories

I mean that SAF loved him because he was home made and he was English, he supported him, like he supported Fletcher 10 years ago, but Welbz failed the last 2 seasons even when RVP was injured or Wazza out of favor from Fergie. So he had his chances playing 9 or 9,5

Stop crying about players who left the club. We have Falcao, RVP, Rooney, Mata, Di Maria, Januzaj and the young Wilson to be excited this year and once the team will gel result will come and we'll be more than happy
 
I do not agree with that. You have to understand where LVG is coming from. He has to get us into the top 4. He cannot put all his hopes into an unproven 23 year old striker. Especially with a team as unbalanced as ours.

Spending a fortune to replace Welbeck with a less versatile, older, slower striker who will expect to start every game (alongside another older, slower striker who Van Gaal will evidently never drop) really sorted out that imbalance, right?
 
Spending a fortune to replace Welbeck with a less versatile, older, slower striker who will expect to start every game (alongside another older, slower striker who Van Gaal will evidently never drop) really sorted out that imbalance, right?

Falcao isnt't that bad..
And I guess scoring goals from left right and centre means he's less versatile than Welbeck.
 
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Great effort and nice finishes from Welbeck, very happy with him putting away his first hattrick for us - hopefully there are many more to come.
 
Mind that time Bendtner scored a Hatrick against Porto? Where was the mass hysteria that night? Infact wasn't he younger than Danny when it happened too?
 
Henry vs Welbeck comparisons on BBC..

:lol:

If Welbeck can go on to become half the player Henry was we will be laughing.

If you want to treat yourself to 15 minutes of pure awesomeness, just watch this:



Unfortunately Welbeck isn't getting close to that level of talent. But if he continues to work hard and play the way he has been he will be a firm Gooner favourite for many years.
 
:lol:

If Welbeck can go on to become half the player Henry was we will be laughing.

If you want to treat yourself to 15 minutes of pure awesomeness, just watch this:



Unfortunately Welbeck isn't getting close to that level of talent. But if he continues to work hard and play the way he has been he will be a firm Gooner favourite for many years.


Maybe Welbeck will come good, I dont know, but to make comparisons with Henry already is pure madness. But journos need to make a theme out of nothing I guess.
 
Spending a fortune to replace Welbeck with a less versatile, older, slower striker who will expect to start every game (alongside another older, slower striker who Van Gaal will evidently never drop) really sorted out that imbalance, right?
Falcao can score with head and both feets, has killer instinct and as we all could see he is really good in buildup. He assisted 2 in the last 2 games. Really less versatile striker than Welbeck.

And he is not slow, infact he is quick enough to run from the middle of the park to score a goal on numerous occasions.


And yes he is 4 years older than Welbeck not 10 years older. He was scoring goals for fun at the age Welbeck is. One hattrick against very poor team does not mean Welbeck in a top player. Even Bendtner scored hattrick against a lot better team than this Galatasaray team.
 
Stop dreaming about Welbz

He wasn't good when he played upfront the season we lost the title for a point. He scored goals, but didn't managed to win us the title, Wazza was to alone upfront. We saw the year after that Fergie bought Kagawa (in order to play Wazza as the main striker), and then RVP, and this guy won us the title.

Welbz can score goals, and he's on a side that is playing well and together since 3 years now, but he'll not become a new Henry like they all said.

So the question is debatable, but I think that it was better for us and him that he left. Excepting the fact that he's an academy player and a Mancunian, he wasn't good enough for our standing and he rarely proved us that he can be a top player and the leader we needed for 6 month or a season long. He no more than an other Sturridge. He'll play well when the team is going well and he'll be shit when the team is so

As far I'm concerned, I rather have Falcao than him. This guy wins you title when he's fit, Surrounded by RVP, Wazza, Mata and Di Maria, I think that we'll have here players that can win you games and some that can win you trophies, and Welbz is not part of these categories

I mean that SAF loved him because he was home made and he was English, he supported him, like he supported Fletcher 10 years ago, but Welbz failed the last 2 seasons even when RVP was injured or Wazza out of favor from Fergie. So he had his chances playing 9 or 9,5

Stop crying about players who left the club. We have Falcao, RVP, Rooney, Mata, Di Maria, Januzaj and the young Wilson to be excited this year and once the team will gel result will come and we'll be more than happy
I think James Wilson could go a long way in mitigating the loss of Welbeck. I reckon Wilson's rise was a strong factor in LVG looking to offload Danny in the first place, and from what I've seen I think his inclusion in the first team will be a certainty. It's a real pity that he got injured when he did, as I believe if people in the game, and in the media, could see the potential that this kid has they'd come to understand the logic behind the manager's decision in letting Welbeck leave.
 
Really happy for Welbeck doing so well for the Gooners, but with all due respect, at the moment comparing him to Henry is ridiculous. Thierry Henry is/was a very very special player. A perfect complete attacker. One of those players, who I always dreamt of seeing in United's shirt.
 
For me he is now a player for a rival team, I hope he doesn't score another goal this season.
For those saying we shouldn't have got rid of him, who would you drop, should we have sold Wilson, not bought Falcoa, built the team around Welbeck, let him rot in the reserves?
Welbeck was never going to be first choice at United, he wasn't even going to be second or third choice, we currently have Rooney, RVP, Falcoa, Wilson and LVG sees Januzaj as a forward. What do some of our fans do, cry a little river over Danny fecking Welbeck.
 
For me he is now a player for a rival team, I hope he doesn't score another goal this season.
For those saying we shouldn't have got rid of him, who would you drop, should we have sold Wilson, not bought Falcoa, built the team around Welbeck, let him rot in the reserves?
Welbeck was never going to be first choice at United, he wasn't even going to be second or third choice, we currently have Rooney, RVP, Falcoa, Wilson and LVG sees Januzaj as a forward. What do some of our fans do, cry a little river over Danny fecking Welbeck.
We should not have sold him to a rival

We managed to avoid this forever basically....until now?
 
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