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Danny Rose
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I agree your with your comment on Rio. Huge respect for him as a player and person. However, not sure I would go as far as taking his word on Rose. This is Rio’s best team selection last year ...
Rio's EPL XI of the year: Hugo Lloris (Tottenham), Cesar Azpilicueta (Chelsea), David Luiz (Chelsea), Harry Kane (Tottenham), Danny Rose (Tottenham), Wilfried Zaha (Crystal Palace), N'Golo Kante (Chelsea), Dele Alli (Tottenham), Eden Hazard (Chelsea), Sadio Mane (Liverpool), Romelu Lukaku (Everton)
Would you really buy Lloris instead of De God? I think Rose is a good player and a step up from what we have, even though Ashley has done a great job recently. But you just know that Levy will kill us on the price and there no guarantee that he’ll fit in at Utd. I might be a little biased as I don’t rate him as much as others do. If we sign him and he does really well for us - I will be delighted. We’ve sucked in this position since Evra’s decline and departure.
We took a risk once post Evra, invested 30m in a 19 year old with great talent, unfortunately he got his leg snapped in two pieces. It didn't work out it doesn't mean we shouldn't do it again.
If there is an available world class LB, then fine I'm all for it. Rose isn't one.
27 is too old now?
Absolutely, specially for that fee.
He’s the best left back in the league, don’t know what else you want. A non world class youngster?
We have a young defense in bailly lindelof jones rojo tuanzebe TFM , Its better we buy a younger player only who ill gell with them for long term.
But he’s 28. We are trying to win the league now. Not in 2020
Its not connected to just signing a left back.
Isn't he a bit of injury prone?
Seriously, why are people calling him 28? He's not 28 until July.
How is he the best LB in the league when he has played only 1 game since last winter?
A younger player with potential to be world class would be a better option than Danny Rose, yeah.
Luke Shaw?
Okay, before the injury! Who are these potential world class left backs?
I think his boat has sailed, unfortunately.Luke Shaw?
Sorry, I meant the next Luke Shaw.
Not really, people like to point out all the league games he's missed but most of those are two long-term injuries that you can't really legislate for (12 with a broken foot, 15 with damaged knee ligaments).
It's not like he's picking up muscle-related injuries every week like Phil Jones.
I am all for it, hes an improvement to our starting 11 which no matter what money is spent is all that matters, signing a young player with potential is great but only when we have someone in that position all ready to help guide them. there is the young lad from fulham who ticks the box's for potential but cant remember his name,
Kieran Tierney from Celtic for one looks quality, Aaron Martin and Benjamin Henrichs are other options. There are couple of other young left backs worth considering, Young has been solid since moved to LB and we can afford going for potential in my opinion.
There are cheaper options also, Arsenal got Kolasinac for nothing and he looks quality, Ghoulam was a great option before the injury also.
Danny Rose does have injury issues and is not that good to be worth the money and the risk, Spurs play Ben Davies there and he looks very good, they aren't missing Rose in my opinion.
he doesn't look like the picture of health to me. Can we just add someone whose good in playing football and whose fit enough to actually play?
Danny Rose has played 118 matches over the last 4.5 seasons - Jones has played 113
In his career, Jones who is injury prone and 2.5 years younger than Rose has played more matches.....I would be very concerned about signing Rose. Is he better than what we have ? Yes, but is he a massive improvment on Young ? Not really if you consider what Young brings to the side in terms of crossing the ball and set-pieces.
Danny Rose hasn't played more than 28 games in the league his entire career and that is in 2015, of course there are injury concerns. If we go for him it's because we count on him being in his prime and is reliable to play most of the games. And it's not like he is Marcelo or some talent you can't pass on if available.
For comparison in total career numbers Bertrand has played like 30663 minutes, Danny Rose has 15649 minutes.
My point is non of them are better than Danny Rose. There not missing Kyle Walker either but he’s still improved City.
Well yes, Rose has played at higher level compared to those guys I mentioned, but all of them have potential to be better than Rose, and I don't rate Rose that much better than Young in all honesty.
You are right about Walker, but his fitness record is much better than Rose's. In contrast he was worth 50m to City, he might have improved us also (if someone rates him higher than Tony V), but he was not a 50m improvement to Valencia. Rose isn't a 40m+ worthy improvement on Young neither.
You wouldn’t have signed Matic then I guess? You were against that signing?
This is such a nonsensical argument.
I wasn't against signing Matic. I am against this one.
He'll be 28 at the start of next season.
Rose would be a very good addition to our squad. Him and Martial on the left would rip most teams apart. Obviously ideally I'd like a 23-25 year old given rose is likely to be reliant on his physical qualities which generally nosedive post 30.
He's in his prime, english, league proven and a great player. What more could you really ask for in a position that the team is severely lacking in. (admittedly young has been a good utility player in the mean time)
Young is a bang average left back. Every now and then one of our squad players has a decent run and people here get excited. Sometime his whole get it on to my right and whip a cross in routine works but he's simply several levels below the standard required and rose would be a gigantic upgrade.
I don't think young is terrible but I agree, Rose would be a significant upgrade.
Danny Rose has been a bang average LB for most of his career, he's had something like 1.5 very good seasons in a well functioning Spurs team. For him to be a gigantic upgrade on Young he should be of the level of Cafu and Maldini, which he clearly isn't.
He is a lot better than Blind and Young.
I'd prefer we find someone whose name ended in a vowel that isn't silent.
Not really. To be a gigantic upgrade on left back Ashley Young is easy for good fullbacks.
Arthur Masuaku?
What's the fuss about? Anything on the transfers front?
Maybe, that depends how much we rate both of them. Other important factor for good full backs is how reliable are they, Rose has played 1 PL game since December. I'm not sure which Rose we might get, the injury prone one that was good 1 year ago or the average Danny Rose we know for most of his career.
How so K2K, it was in reply to this:
”He's 28 already and only has a few good seasons in him left for that price is not an attractive signing.”
What is nonsensical is arguing that 40m quid in this market is a daft fee for a 27 year player based on his age.
My apprehension for him isn't about his age at all.
It's about signing him from Spurs who will rip us off and his injury problems.
Edit: my point is against those not wanting to sign him and trying to match that with the Matic situation.
He played well tonight. Nice and lively and on the front foot contributing to the attack.
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