I don’t think he contributed anything at all attackwise. All hustle and nothing to show for it. He lacks quality in all areas of attacking play besides work rate.
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Immediately after watching Rose play left midfield against a Dortmund team in poor form and missing their best player, Pulisic, I watched Leon Bailey play left midfield for Bayer in the same formation against a Leipzig team in good form with their best players involved. I thought Bailey was the better player because he was the better athlete, better tackler, better playing flighted balls, better dribbling, better passer, and better ball striker in set pieces. I would be worried that Spurs would use whatever fee we paid for Rose to acquire the 20 year old Bailey and laugh at United while Bailey excelled at Spurs for the next 10 years.
Right, why on Earth were you even replying to me then @K2K ? I have zero issues with you having reservations about Rose, that’s a perfectly legit stance.
I have issues with posters, like the one I quoted, in which their reservations are due to his age, having not many seasons left (at 27
) and costing 40m. If they are how a club looks at signings, Matic was a horror, but in reality it’s quite the opposite.Well except for that superb cross/drillef pass for the brilliant Eriksson chance in the first half.
Posters seeing what they want to see I guess.
Starting to believe the Rose to United rumour just may have legs after all. Not keen on the idea personally, I think any player who openly expresses his desire to "play up north and win trophies" while currenly under contract with another club (Spurs in this case) shows he has extremely poor etiquette and a bad attitude.
His ability as a leftback is undeniable though, which does tend to sway the thinking somewhat, especially when you consider the issues we currently have in that position. That's a slight on Young who has performed brilliantly since his inclusion in the starting lineup.
His ability as a leftback is undeniable though, which does tend to sway the thinking somewhat, especially when you consider the issues we currently have in that position. That's a slight on Young who has performed brilliantly since his inclusion in the starting lineup.
I'd go as far to say he is 100% in January, is a brilliant LB but he has always had a mouth and a big ego.
100% to leave? Not so sure about that. We'll inevitably arse around with a daft offer and Levy will dig his heels in, leaving no time for finding a replacement.
I thought since The Sun interview he was gone, can't see any other club in England needing a LB, Chelsea maybe but Alonso has proved a good buy. Some has happened again behind the scenes, he was getting reintroduced about 3 weeks ago, unless of course his fitness is still an issue.
Whoa, whoa, whoaaaa. His fitness is an issue? Then you're right. We're definitely buying him.
Shaw the other way? You can just see it. Rose will be injured half the time at United and Shaw will go on to be the best LB in the league again.
Would make a lot of sense but we rarely see it happen, is Shaw's problem in his head or did his leg break effect his game? When fit, and to be fair his injury record isn't that bad, Rose is a very good player, problem is his last injury was a bad one.
To be honest I think the leg break has affected him psychologically. He looks broken and afraid to me. I was always a big fan but he just looks finished . That said, things can change. Mou doesn’t like him so that could be affecting him..
Agreed. Physically he's still quick and strong, but he just doesn't run to the byline and get forward anymore and that's clearly psychological. Then again, he's barely played these last 2 years and I haven't seen him any of his performances in the second league, so maybe I'm not best placed to judge.
Shaw's wages would make him one the highest earners at Spurs. Might even have to take a 50% paycut because of the relatively poor wages at Spurs.
I can't see that. And Spurs have a very good player keeping Rose out of the team so Im not even sure they would be interested.
I think him speaking out was a reaction to how levy holds on to players, under pays and generally sells when it suits him.
He would certainly have to take a pay cut, but if he had any real desire to get his career back on track he is going to have to at the end of next season. I like Davies but if or when Rose leaves he is going to need compitition, hard to believe he is still only 22.
United would have to subsidise the wages most likely, through his transfer value.
I doubt that - selling established players half-way through a long season rarely happens.
And Pochettino started him in our last CL match (away to Dortmund), so he's hardly been reduced to a bit-part role.
Is he still fat?
I'd have to agree. Levy surely wouldn't sell to a rival mid-season, especially not in a position that we are really lacking in quality.
He did get into the team of the year one time.
Would have completely agreed with you up until the weekend when he didn’t make the squad again. There is clearly an issue and it’s getting worse rather than better.
Not saying it will happen in January but I don’t think it’s impossible.
Let’s get him!
If I had to give a left back time in the cups I'd rather choose Shaw than blind or Darmian. I'd keep him even if we get Rose and look to build his confidence up hoping he won't injure himself before that.
Darmian is anyways playing as RB so it's Blind playing ahead of Shaw. Was hoping at least in dead rubber Shaw would get start in CL, looks like that's not even possible now. Can Shaw play as poor as Blind did against Basel? I really doubt that.
After Darmian pulled that performance at Basel, I'd be tempted to play Bailly or Lindelof there ahead of him if Valencia needs a rest.
Blind is a LCB if he is anything in the PL.
Spurs might also have to pay a fee for him. I don't think relations between the clubs are the greatest so neither will give in s inch.
We will see what happens but I can see this not happening.
His crossing (whenever he thought it was safe to cross half way line) was so poor that it made Bebe look like Beckham. Yeah it's about time Shaw gets at least few games to prove his worth.
feck technique. I want a pacy player with decent defensive skills that is a constant attacking threat, especially with their crossing playing on our left flank as our left back. Rose fits the bill. Even though he'll cost an arm and a leg
Rose having shit technique is a myth anyway. He's fast as feck and good on the ball. More than capable of beating players from a standing point too, something none of our other fullbacks really seem capable of doing.
I agree. I was just saying though I just want reliable players at fullback. I'd be over the moon if we could find two Denis Irwin's or Gary Neville's for either flank. Nothing beats having a reliable performer at fullback. Who is solid at both ends of the pitch.
Think he will come here in January.
So Rose to United and Sessegnon to Spurs....that makes sense!!!!
Isn't he a bit of a crock?
If Sessegnon comes to Spurs in January (which I doubt), then that's the only way I'd see Rose being sold before the summer.
Otherwise if Rose was sold, for the rest of the season we'd be relying on 20 year-old Kyle Walker-Peters to cover for Davies (when really RB is his favoured spot even tho' he's played at LB plenty of times at youth international level) and I don't see Pochettino being ready to do that.
Hasn't Aurier covered LB at points this year or am I imagining that?
Rose to Utd and Sessegnon to Spurs would be a good move for Spurs tbh.
Would take him in a heartbeat.
I think he might have done that in one match ... can't remember exactly. But yes, if Sessegnon comes to Spurs in the summer, then I'd be OK with selling Rose for a good fee.
Why are we not trying out Mitchell who gave a good account of himself pre season? Young can cover rb/lb so seems a logical progression. Wasnt mou spouting how he was giving youth a chance last week?
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