Money well spent, the United way.
Dan "The Gardener" Ashworth Has Left | Venit, vidit, non vicit
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We barely have any information at this stage, people need to calm down instead of constantly overreacting
I’m highly doubt we will be reappointing anyone in the role. Looks like it will be the SJR show from now on
I didn't know that but if Ashworth was the driving force behind keeping EtH, triggering the extention and backing him in the market only for it to blow up so quickly then it's almost certainly the at the root of it, Ratcliffe clearly isn't a patient man.
You can't fire DoFs at the same rate as managers, it means the club is still terribly run.
What an earth is going on? He’s just started
Maybe it's Berrada calling the shots
Ready to team up with Graham Potter somewhere maybe.
I’m sure they will replace him. But if there’s something they are not happy about, it’s surely best not to wait and just continue with someone you don’t buy into.
Not necessarily a bad thing. If there's a valid reason for getting rid of him, (like differing visions or not happy with the decisions he's making) then nothing wrong with moving fast, even if the optics aren't great.
It's the same with the Ten Hag decision. They extend his contract, realise the decision was wrong, then get rid.
Backtracking is not a bad thing if the original decision was the wrong one. Is rather they do this then dig their heels in to justify their original decision.
It's the same with the Ten Hag decision. They extend his contract, realise the decision was wrong, then get rid.
Backtracking is not a bad thing if the original decision was the wrong one. Is rather they do this then dig their heels in to justify their original decision.
I wonder if Viana would've been pursued by us if this decision was made earlier?
Is it fair to say the fact that ‘the club wish him well in the future’ rules out anything nefarious off the pitch with him?
I hope the moral police officers that demonised Sheikh takeover are happy now. The circus continues.
I would agree if we weren’t at the start of their tenure. They can churn through DOFs quickly now because it’s their first full season.
He got caught pissing in Ratcliffe's adrenochrome drink.
Or drugs..
What happened? This came out of the blue for me.
Supporting this club is like having a close family member that’s a crack addict and regularly pulls their pants down in town and shouts at people.
What I wouldn’t give for this club to be just normal for one season. No takeovers, no players assaulting their girlfriends, no interviews from players in the media, no chasing a DoF for 6 months to sack him in 5, no sacking members of the club that have been here for 40 years, no hiking ticket prices and asking my 6 year old lad to pay £66.
What I wouldn’t give for this club to be just normal for one season. No takeovers, no players assaulting their girlfriends, no interviews from players in the media, no chasing a DoF for 6 months to sack him in 5, no sacking members of the club that have been here for 40 years, no hiking ticket prices and asking my 6 year old lad to pay £66.
Maybe they didn’t know how short he is until now?
The only logical explanation is that Berrada is still secretly working for City as a sleeper agent and has been assigned the task of sabotaging our club from within.
I literally have no words to explain this club anymore.. wasn’t he meant to be the best around?
Or issues arised at an interpersonal level.
The article states they were told by club sources that the club made the decision but would publicly say "mutual". The statement is worthless.
Oh yeah for sure, if it's anything personal/disciplinary, it's a different situation. We're all just speculating, but it's hard not to be bewildered with United at times
As emotional as ever in here 
They always put it down as mutual. So we spent forever chasing him to then sack him. Our circus continues.
I don't know, maybe you're right. To me, it seems like a power move i would expect from an Abramovich/Boehly type of owner. Or, more recently, Marinakis, who fired Cooper despite everyone at Forest (from fans to his executives) advising him not to do so. He's always been like that at Olympiacos, too. The difference is that these types would never go to such lengths to build or promote a new structure, but would keep a close group of people they know to consul them. They relish being in the thick of it, they want it to be about them. After going to such lengths to create a new hierarchy - even giving interviews or having articles written - this one seems strange. He could have sided with Berrada in the summer and tell Ashworth that he has complete faith in him to help the new guy build the next great United side (after working so hard to acquire his services). There's always ground for cooperation. And i can't help but think that, facing our worst ever finish in the first year of INEOS management, we found our scapegoat.
Yeah it was crazy, stick with a manager everyone knew was incapable of turning it around, and also buy him yet another raft of Dutch/ex players just for good measure.
It's Amorim I feel sorry for in all this, I just hope he knew what he was walking into, and how bad the sqaud actually is.
i heard it was because he was gregg wallaceing the players at full time. he stormed into the dressing room with just a sock on his knob and shouted “you couldn’t even catch this!” as he waggled it about in front of onana.
Bit weird that he’d be fired over the summer transfer window. Yoro has huge potential and was definitely a coup. Mazraoui has been one of our best players. De Ligt hasn’t been a disaster and we got him at a good price. All three defenders are a fit for Amorim’s system.
Ugarte has been fine and probably needs time to settle before we see his best form.
Zirkzee is the worst of the summer signings but definitely not Antony levels of incompetence.
In any case all of them should be given time to bed in before being sure if it’s been a good or bad window on the balance of things.
This is just madness. This club is something else honestly.
I do agree 5 months is right before probationary periods and reckon it was a cost saving measure.
Maybe they’ve realised that we don’t need the DOF role at the club? Mixed with a poor summer strategy?
Interesting to see where those who have slagged us off all summer in terms of decision sit. I’d imagine they’d be pleased that high standards are being set?
Maybe they’ve realised that we don’t need the DOF role at the club? Mixed with a poor summer strategy?
Interesting to see where those who have slagged us off all summer in terms of decision sit. I’d imagine they’d be pleased that high standards are being set?
I said it before and will say it again, the best around isn't a thing. The suitability of a DOF is entirely context dependent, an objectively competent DOF can and will fail in context that don't suit him which includes the stature of the club which affect the relevance of his network or his personality and how it fits with other decision makers. That's why most DOFs are not well-known and they come from within.
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Thinking this as well
"Someone you don't buy into"? They just hired him, paying high compensation and accepting a long period of notice because they insisted it was the best, "best in class", appointment. How can they not "buy into him" now?
It's one of two things: either their vetting and selection process for this key club role was terribly wrong, or they are laughably fickle and impatient regarding a role in the club that pertains to long time strategy.
Either was, it reflects horribly on Ratcliffe and INEOS.