Very interesting situation now. We/Ashworth think the gardening leave is null and void.
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Nice attempt from SmallTimeFC to "enslave" someone called Freedman.
Go down Jimmy
Way down in Tyneside and Wear
Tell old Crown Prince
To let my Ashworth go!
Way down in Tyneside and Wear
Tell old Crown Prince
To let my Ashworth go!
He got five kids from three unsuccessful marriages.
Really? He was at the FA for years, was highly rated at Brighton and then when he went to Newcastle that was a pretty big story.
Just read it yeah, seems like we think we have a pretty solid case.
You would imagine that Ashworth has shown us his contract and we've looked over it and are reasonably confident what they did was wrong.
Doesn't this mean both Berrada and Ashworth have potentially broken contracts with previous employers? So they might both have to fight court cases?
Regardless, isn't this a bit of a daft distraction for the club that could have been easily avoided with a tiny amount of discretion by the two? I use Signal just to talk to my friends, it'd be a no brainer to use it or similar for something like this.
Regardless, isn't this a bit of a daft distraction for the club that could have been easily avoided with a tiny amount of discretion by the two? I use Signal just to talk to my friends, it'd be a no brainer to use it or similar for something like this.
I'm sure he's good enough to warrant our interest, but then everyone's highly rated these days from Monchi to now even Dougie Freedman.
Regardless, I have no wish for us to run a year- long litigation battle with Newcastle. The simpler it can be done, the better.
Perhaps not yeah. Seems crazy if you’ve someone like Dan Ashworth in a role and you’re having him play second fiddle to someone like Eddie Howe.
Doesn’t leave you with the strongest foundations when Howe inevitably gets moved on in the next 12-18 months.
I've done it once or twice to have logs of flight tickets and hotel reservations etc.
Ah, of course the knob head weighs in. Great impartial reporting, no doubt.
Means he would be in breach of contract, and it directly affects the arbitration on compensation so it does harm Newcastle financially if he shared the terms of what Newcastle paid for him with a competitor.
Would make me all the more suspicious about the tapping up reports. Could be Newcastle trying to cover up the fact they made a complete hames of Ashworth's exit
What a nothing "article". It doesn't say anything that hasn't been said in here, and as discussed, those guidelines are just fluff.
Saudi spin on full throttle.
It would be one hell of a coincidence to leak that at this point. Someone scoured through his e-mails over the past year to find that.
I get that City dont care, fine. Dan can receive a private e-mail if he wants.
At Manchester United everything is a drama. Even upper management appointments can't be straight forward. I hope this Ashworth is worth the troble. Will be disappointing if Southgate or Potter are his first order of business.
Yes he can, but he can't recieve one where hes been divulging information to a competitor.
Yup. Most likely lawyers trying to find something since it's going to arbitration. It wouldn't be difficult to find messages using e-discovery tools built into Gsuite or M365 can be done in a matter of minutes. Filtering messages sent/received to outside domains with some keywords and you have instant results. Most users don't know this is possible and think emptying their deleted items folder is all they need to do to cover their tracks.
Is our fault cancelled out by their fault then?
No information was divulged here though, right? I am a bit confused at what is Newcastle's case here. Looks like they are trying to put pressure before the arbitration hearing.
Think that litigation battle has already started
Its been reported he sent information on the compensation negotiations and payments between Newcastle and Brighton which took him to Newcastle. information which was not public, had I done this in my job I would be in breach of my contract and competition clause would be invoked.
Would be hilarious if we end up hiring Freedman as head of recruitment.
Be very surprised if that happens, problem is Newcastle might now play even harder ball over Ashworth if their top target has rejected them
He sent those to Berrada?
Interesting.
Apparently so
Why? Ashworth is effectively irrelevant to them in that regard now.
Would be hilarious if we end up hiring Freedman as head of recruitment.
This would be the icing in the cake, unfortunately I think he'll stay at Palace
Sure, which is sackable offence, but not sure how that affects compensation? Should we pay more because he breached his contract? I think they will have an extremely tough time arguing how much they are financially harmed by this.
He may need to pay Newcastle (which means we may have to do it for him)
I doubt it though, I think they get the 2.5m or they get nothing because he was effectively fired.
It will be difficult but how much time will it take? I guess we can't expect Ashworth to join before the window shuts. What happens to our summer window then? Actually, our desire to get a structure up and running? Is next season basically a write off while we try to sort out everything?
Again, I hope he is worth the troble.
Sounds like the actions of an organisation that doesn't fancy it's chances in arbitration.
Exactly, they are continuing absolutely fine without him. Eddie How said it himself in an interview
I'm sure we could have found a perfectly competent sporting director elsewhere for far less hassle than this. It really is in our DNA to do things the hard way.
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