Does anyone have the final figures on how much we net spent this window? I'm guessing around £64m (including Sancho fee)? We also got Varane, Sancho and Martial off our books and probably saved £25m in net wages per year. Well done Ashworth and team!
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Isn't it Eddie Howe's nephew that's the issue there?
It is not but you are free to disagree. But the work they did in 2 years in enough proof. Pray hojlund works or else we have another 72m down the drain
That's pure recency bias
I am not saying woodward was any less shit but in the 2 or 3 year time with Murtough /Arnold or whoever else we made some bad bad decisions.
Buying Antony for 80m ( you do realise right how much of shit transfer that is)
Chasing fdj for a month like clowns and then panicking and buying a totally different profile of cm in Casemiro for 60m.
Buying Mount for 55m when he only had one year contract left with Chelsea
giving crazy contract to Rashford. It was like their parting gift that we are stuck with now
The other transfers like Onana hojlund one may argue are also questionable.
I am not even going about the debacle of Rangnick era.
In 2-3 years time that is a lot of Damage caused
Newcastle with zero important signings 
Especially this guy thought that Newcastle can easily replace Ashworth and he has done a poor job for them.
Has Newcastle signed Guehi....Luke??
Especially this guy thought that Newcastle can easily replace Ashworth and he has done a poor job for them.
Has Newcastle signed Guehi....Luke??
Both were shit and one in his short time caused more damage. Murtough only had 2 to 3 years and was succeeding one of the worst guy so for him to match or do worse than him is some feat.
This summer has shown that Newcastle need Ashworth and that Howe had way too much power at the club.
Has there ever been such a massive clear out to this extent?
The only ones I can think of off hand are when Rio/Vidic/Evra left or even further back when Ince/Hughes/Kanchelskis were sold but thats more of first team names than wholesale offloading like this summer.
Incredibly theres still Lindleof,Eriksen, Casemiro,Antony and probably Maguire still to go.
Still feel we have left ourselves a little short in some areas but thats some foundation to build on for a first transfer window.
Yes I agree with 8/10. It is still very early days for the new structure and strategy to show definite results. But it certainly does look far more professional than before.
Will only get better the longer he, Berrada and co get to cook and ten Hag is replaced/his influence massively stifled.
well hopefully that massive clear out, much needed of course, will help for next summer or even possibly in january if we need to dip in the market without any concerns over FFP
I'd probably rate the window a 6.5/10 for incomings and 8/10 for outgoings, we didn't reinforce the attack nearly enough for my liking but we did well reinforcing the defensive midfield and defence which theoretically gives us a solid foundation to build on. Next window should be almost entirely focused on improving our attacking quality and depth.
Always start from the back and build your spine. Next year we should go big on the attack and a ball playing midfielder.
Bruno will eventually become an uncomfortable conversation if we bring a manager in who wants to play a different style of football. I also think this could potentially be Rashford and possibly Shaws last season at the club, but they will all be difficult to move on due to a combination of wages, age and injuries.
Bruno will be 30 this year, think he'll be naturally phased out over the coming seasons anyway. I'd prefer us to move to a more conventional 4-3-3 with specialised #8s going forward.
His work on outgoings was even more impressive than his signings to me, been a while since we've actually had a respectable net spend
Newcastle fans loudly boasting that they pulled our pants down for Ashworth and that they didn't need him, only for them to have a disastrous transfer window. You love to see it.
Actually it should be around 110m counting Sancho and another 10-20m in add ons.
The difference between him and Murtough is as big as between CR7 and Owen.
What did we end up with in the end? We must have brought in close to £100m in transfer fees. Which should also set us up in good stead for next summer as well.Newcastle fans loudly boasting that they pulled our pants down for Ashworth and that they didn't need him, only for them to have a disastrous transfer window. You love to see it.
Absolutely.
The beauty is the fee of 20m they wanted for compensation ended up being around 3mNewcastle fans loudly boasting that they pulled our pants down for Ashworth and that they didn't need him, only for them to have a disastrous transfer window. You love to see it.
Wages are always hard to know exactly, but I think we saved around 1.5m/week in wages, and the new players should earn probably around 700k/week (combo of reported wages and guessing based on what they were earning before), so we are probably saving around 40m/year in salaries.
Improving the team for a relatively small net spent, while lowering the salary by 40m is some doing. Especially compared to before when we were spending like lunatics, increasing the salary bill while the team was getting worse and worse.
Newcastle’s posturing and decision to drag out the Ashworth deal ended up hurting them more than us. I’m sure it’s still all our fault they had a poor window though.
It also stands us in good steed for the future. We really do need to get Champions League this year though.
I love the optimism here, and I hope it all works out, but this thread is a cert to get nasty if we’ve bought some duds.
I am afraid we do not have enough firepower upfront for that (unless severa other teams implode like it happened last season). There isn’t a single player in our squad that guarantees 15+ goals in the league. So we essentially need Rashford to find his shooting boots, with Garnacho and Holjund to have their breakthrough seasons for it to happen.
We have done quite well in the market, but we are very weak in what is the most important thing in football, and we barely invested there (just Zirkzee).
But long term, I think we will be fine. This wasn’t ever going to be a transfer window that fixes everything.
I think that’s too low. Easily 7/10 for incomings and 8.5/10 for outgoings.
I think you're right that the reasons to be positive in attack are more about what's to come than what we have right now. There's a number of talented young wingers and forwards coming through the academy and most of our first team options are still young themselves. I also think Zirkzee looks a talented player and might be first choice even when Hojlund returns. Pleased more with who we've shipped out to make space than who we've acquired though when it comes to the attackers.
Respect the way he comes across, seems like he's very diligent you can grasp it from the way he communicates.
Has a very impactful reputation from his work at FA / Brighton, it's becoming clearer why Newcastle were insistent on making it as difficult as possible.
Has a very impactful reputation from his work at FA / Brighton, it's becoming clearer why Newcastle were insistent on making it as difficult as possible.
amazed we shifted sancho for a fee
We spent big on a decent striker last summer but it is obvious that our attacking options are not good enough. I think Höjlund is average. Our struggle for goals will persist.
Yeah, it's shit.
But you said the Arnold/Murtough era was worse than the Woodward era - and...no.
You could even say (if you're feeling charitable) that Arnold/Murtough (whatever the feck they actually did) probably inherited a ton of non-functional crap from the Woodward era.
Anyway, to me it seems very much like the Arnold/Murtough era was just a continuation of the Woodward era - more than anything. It wasn't worse.
Fair way to look at it but then on the counter you didn't have much expectations to follow up to and yet they disappointed.
Maybe I am harsh but I just cannot digest they paid 80m for antony. You don't have to be qualified in whatever to say no.
Yeah, Antony...it's one of the worst (if not THE worst) transfers we've ever been involved in.
Still, the question here is whether Woody would have put his foot down on it - and...I really don't think so.
If ETH had gone for Antony (which he obviously did) under Woody, I think Woody would've just sanctioned it (like he did numerous other shite transfers).
This
it's what keeps me optimistic about the club
The Athletic reported that even ten Hag was shocked at the fee spent for Antony. He just wanted a player he thought he could trust in the position, and apparently thought that Antony would be attainable at a much lower fee than we ended up paying.
I don't think it's easily 7/10 at all. Like I said, happy with the defensive reinforcements, extremely unhappy with the attacking ones.
As far as squad improvement is concerned, we still have some issues in midfield, LB, and Upfront, however, if we're to judge him by what was he available for him to spend, then I think he did a great job maximizing the output of that budget.
It seems that we had some spending restrictions due to PSR, and hopefully clearing up the deadwood and spending wisely would set us up for more investment next summer.
It seems that we had some spending restrictions due to PSR, and hopefully clearing up the deadwood and spending wisely would set us up for more investment next summer.