Cristiano Ronaldo - Much Ado About Al Nassr



Phelan said that Ronaldo had a point and was right about much he said in that Morgan interview.

So many ungrateful twats around here that shat on Ronny's name at the time.
Best fans in the world my ass. Without Ronaldo there are no 06/07, 07/08 and 08/09 PL trophies, plus no CL trophy.
He always gave his all on the pitch (which is more than can be said of certain local lads that play for the club) and he was spot on in his interview back then.

The way most fans jumped on his back is still one of the most disgraceful things the United fanbase have done in recent times.

Full kit fan boy.
 
Mitrovic was putting up good numbers for fullham in his last season in the prem where he scored 14 in 24. Not far fetched to say that he could be a 20+ PL goal per season scorer with a better supporting cast. So Ronaldo out-scoring him certainly reflects well on Ronaldo with the added context.
Yh as said impressive but I doubt you, or anyone here, was saying Mitrovic was world class or even close to that. He is a good striker, no doubt, but it would be like Solanke or Watkins going there and breaking Ronaldo’s record. Good players but they’d be like peak Haaland, Henry, RVN there by stats.
 
I watched the penalties out of curiosity, and I have never seen Ronaldo this stressed during penalties or this sad after a loss. And yes, it was worse than how he looked during the 2008 penalties.

He wasn't acting either, it felt completely genuine.

It's because he has so much personally riding on this preposterous league. Patrick Batemen in yellow tights.
 
I don’t get it how on earth you watch Messi play & still believe Ronaldo is on his level or even close !!!!

ronaldo in 09 turned his game around & became the striker he is now … playing in the box waiting for his teammates to create clear chances for him …

he is not a great dribbler like neymar hazard robben let alone Messi

he can’t control the game & play as a playmaker

always said it’s like comparing upgrade of Maradona’s version to a goalscorer like van basten …. Btw van basten is an all time great so Ronaldo’s fanboys won’t get mad

At the end …. Messi is the goat

Ronaldo is one of the best 10 players in the last 20 years …. And 50 all time
 
Yet when we talk about Messi we get a lot of humility-less people calling us fan boys.

Ronaldo always wanted to be the GOAT. That's why he is loved by players like Garnacho and Hojlund and even my self. His fighting mentality, you can see it in certain players. They want to be the best and will beat any real 'tests' they put themselves through.

That's why Ronaldo played in, Portugal, England, Spain, Italy and England Again before going to Saudi Arabia which has a higher quality of players than the MLS even at the retirement level.

Messi on the other hand spent most of his career at Barcelona - arguably the weakest 'best league of all time' in comparison to Serie A 90's or PL post 2000, won most trophies under Pep's supervision which started numbing out as soon as he left aswell as the likes of Xavi & Iniesta went away. Then went to PSG where the next Pele failed aka Neymar but soon as Messi looked 'different' - the excuses that he was just getting old was popping up even though he continued to win Balon D'or as the best player in the world. You have people like me wonder what would have happened if Messi had moved to PSG earlier in his career like Neymar did. Never mind to a club like United or even playing under a manager like Mourinho instead of Guardiola or Enrique.

Would he still be regarded as the best? I have my doubts the same way Neymar looked like a magician at Barcelona always quoted as the 3rd best player in the world to a player that ultimately had a dissapointing career in relation to his potential.

Then finally the MLS. Saudi would have been the best league to play in at his age but just like PSG - took an easier option than playing in top leagues like Ronaldo did.

Ronaldo always wanted to be the best and thats why he went and wanted to dominate the whole world.

Barcelona>PSG>Miami
V
Sporting>United>Madrid>Juventus>United>Al Nassr

One is a significantly harder career than the other.

Fair play to Messi for taking the easier options of life and coming out as the bigger winner overall to Ronaldo especially with the Balon D'ors & the World Cup.

The thing is ultimately some people will value technical ability over something like the mentality of a player.

Likewise vice versa.

That's why some of us regard Ronaldo as our GOAT. Because of his mentality to challenge himself and be the best player in the world.

That's why even though Messi was no doubt the better technical player to Ronaldo playing in weaker leagues & under a team that has had a tactical system built in it since the days of Cryuff which is still seen to date under poor managers like Xavi -

Some will always value Ronaldo's fighting spirit & mentality to conquer the world and try be the GOAT.

You can value the better technical player, the biggest winner in an easier career.

I will value the physical strength, the mental strength, the power, the precision, the ability to play with different players like Modric, Scholes, Rooney, Quaresma, Evra, Bale, Benzema, Kroos, Ramos, Marcelo, Ferdinand, Giggs, Alonso, Di Maria, Ozil, Moutinho, Kaka, Dybala, Ji Sung Park, Chiellini, Deco and many many more players.

We just value different things. You prefer the player who is like a player born with the best technical talent on the ball ever whilst playing for a club that has a philosophy similair to a dad or mum raising their own child in a certain way.

Some of us value the player that built himself through the different tasks, tactics, strengths, weaknesses of different players and leagues from his own mentality to try be regarded as the greatest of all time!

Hope you enjoyed your GOATS career as much as i enjoyed mine

Take care

One if the most funniest & delusional comments I’ve seen…. Truly Ronaldo’s is a magician to make his fanboys believe this sh****
 
Yet when we talk about Messi we get a lot of humility-less people calling us fan boys.

Ronaldo always wanted to be the GOAT. That's why he is loved by players like Garnacho and Hojlund and even my self. His fighting mentality, you can see it in certain players. They want to be the best and will beat any real 'tests' they put themselves through.

That's why Ronaldo played in, Portugal, England, Spain, Italy and England Again before going to Saudi Arabia which has a higher quality of players than the MLS even at the retirement level.

Messi on the other hand spent most of his career at Barcelona - arguably the weakest 'best league of all time' in comparison to Serie A 90's or PL post 2000, won most trophies under Pep's supervision which started numbing out as soon as he left aswell as the likes of Xavi & Iniesta went away. Then went to PSG where the next Pele failed aka Neymar but soon as Messi looked 'different' - the excuses that he was just getting old was popping up even though he continued to win Balon D'or as the best player in the world. You have people like me wonder what would have happened if Messi had moved to PSG earlier in his career like Neymar did. Never mind to a club like United or even playing under a manager like Mourinho instead of Guardiola or Enrique.

Would he still be regarded as the best? I have my doubts the same way Neymar looked like a magician at Barcelona always quoted as the 3rd best player in the world to a player that ultimately had a dissapointing career in relation to his potential.

Then finally the MLS. Saudi would have been the best league to play in at his age but just like PSG - took an easier option than playing in top leagues like Ronaldo did.

Ronaldo always wanted to be the best and thats why he went and wanted to dominate the whole world.

Barcelona>PSG>Miami
V
Sporting>United>Madrid>Juventus>United>Al Nassr

One is a significantly harder career than the other.

Fair play to Messi for taking the easier options of life and coming out as the bigger winner overall to Ronaldo especially with the Balon D'ors & the World Cup.

The thing is ultimately some people will value technical ability over something like the mentality of a player.

Likewise vice versa.

That's why some of us regard Ronaldo as our GOAT. Because of his mentality to challenge himself and be the best player in the world.

That's why even though Messi was no doubt the better technical player to Ronaldo playing in weaker leagues & under a team that has had a tactical system built in it since the days of Cryuff which is still seen to date under poor managers like Xavi -

Some will always value Ronaldo's fighting spirit & mentality to conquer the world and try be the GOAT.

You can value the better technical player, the biggest winner in an easier career.

I will value the physical strength, the mental strength, the power, the precision, the ability to play with different players like Modric, Scholes, Rooney, Quaresma, Evra, Bale, Benzema, Kroos, Ramos, Marcelo, Ferdinand, Giggs, Alonso, Di Maria, Ozil, Moutinho, Kaka, Dybala, Ji Sung Park, Chiellini, Deco and many many more players.

We just value different things. You prefer the player who is like a player born with the best technical talent on the ball ever whilst playing for a club that has a philosophy similair to a dad or mum raising their own child in a certain way.

Some of us value the player that built himself through the different tasks, tactics, strengths, weaknesses of different players and leagues from his own mentality to try be regarded as the greatest of all time!

Hope you enjoyed your GOATS career as much as i enjoyed mine

Take care

Could I get some pepper too buddy?

Just remember 8-5. 1 WC to 0 knockout goals / assists. Asamoah Gyan has done more for his country in a WC.

It's not a dream. It's permanent. It's a nightmare you'll never wake up from. Even though you would trade any football outcome for the rest of our days to make it go away, it won't go away.
 
Don't know how to feel about him crying like that.

I'm not his biggest fan, and in one way I think it's a bit odd. He'd never have heard of this trophy not too long ago and would have faced plenty of bigger disappointments over the course of his career in competitions he'd have always held in high regard. Would have thought he might have toughened up by now.

On the other hand it does show how competitive he is, how much winning means to him and much losing hurts. I don't think anyone would be happy losing, but I doubt any of the other imported players would break down like that, especially on the back of winning so much throughout a career already. You could look at that say it's why he became so good.

Part of me wants to laugh at him, part of me respects him for it.

He's not aged gracefully let's put it that way. When he was playing proper football in Europe that win at all costs mentality was admirable. In Saudi Arabia it comes across as a bit pathetic and desperate.
 
Even funnier when you think he has a botox willy

I think he's just really compassionate. Whenever he loses, he instantly thinks my of my dickpic he signed in 2006 at OT and reflects on other people who have it worse.
 
I don’t get it how on earth you watch Messi play & still believe Ronaldo is on his level or even close !!!!

ronaldo in 09 turned his game around & became the striker he is now … playing in the box waiting for his teammates to create clear chances for him …

he is not a great dribbler like neymar hazard robben let alone Messi

he can’t control the game & play as a playmaker

always said it’s like comparing upgrade of Maradona’s version to a goalscorer like van basten …. Btw van basten is an all time great so Ronaldo’s fanboys won’t get mad

At the end …. Messi is the goat

Ronaldo is one of the best 10 players in the last 20 years …. And 50 all time

Messi is a joy to watch and arguably the best player of all time, no question. But it seems you haven't seen much of Ronaldo. For a long time, he was an extremely dangerous player, capable of scoring any kind of goal from anywhere at any time. Both of them undoubtedly deserve every fame, money, GOAT title, and respect they get from the football community, fans, players, managers. It's been ultimate pleasure watching their rivalry for the last 20 years.
 
1 goal, 3 assists



This vid it's just a sample of some of his best and worse traits since his fist days as a player.
Later in his carreer he'll even add a better strike and more goalscoring traits

As great as are:
. some of his controls after some long balls launched to him
. his fantastic pace
. stamina
. a couple of great dribbles
. his shooting ability and movement to find scoring positions.
. mobility and teamplay

It's also pretty noticeable that:
. he always was quite stiff trying too hard to be seen smoother and more skill
. that he did unnecessary backheels and such that actually didn't generate any advantage, but worse made him loose that advantage
. that lots of time he wasn't fully aware of how to make a better profit of his runs, he had to make full stops too many times to regain control of his surroundings or regain his balance, or simply loosing it cheaply on the way (yet on the bright side, he always dare).

It's kind of funny, but that precise vid, as great at some moments are, as great as scoring a goal and 3 assists always is, shows exactly why for many his game isn't in the same breath as others in the history of the game.
BTW I'm not hating, it's a great game by him, yet the whole he was "Best/RG/Maradona" alike in his youth in United, it's quite far from the truth, he never had even the composure of his very own teammate Rooney in those days, yet it was clear that he was a really special fella.
 
:lol: :lol:

He should try scoring one of his many goals when it really matters. It’s deeply satisfying seeing him in tears, and I don’t think that’s just because he’s a bellend and the way he exited the club, I think most of it is down to his mental fanbase. They just make you enjoy moments like that in a way you normally wouldn’t .

Apparently hasn't scored against this team that beat them in the last 5 matches? Trophyless in the Saudi league after losing this cup final against 9 men:lol:
 
Haven't followed a bit of what he's at or what he's doing in that big money retirement league. Today I opened the bbc article about him in tears and see that he finished the season without a trophy.
 
I don’t get it how on earth you watch Messi play & still believe Ronaldo is on his level or even close !!!!

ronaldo in 09 turned his game around & became the striker he is now … playing in the box waiting for his teammates to create clear chances for him …

he is not a great dribbler like neymar hazard robben let alone Messi

he can’t control the game & play as a playmaker

always said it’s like comparing upgrade of Maradona’s version to a goalscorer like van basten …. Btw van basten is an all time great so Ronaldo’s fanboys won’t get mad

At the end …. Messi is the goat

Ronaldo is one of the best 10 players in the last 20 years …. And 50 all time
You are grossly underrating him. I personally am not a big fan because of his antics and I don't like the way he plays (even in his prime); he lacks artistry that other great players have/had.

My take on Cristiano is that PURELY interms of allround play he is near what you’re saying about him I.e One of the top 20 best players in the last 30 years. But, you really can't ignore his goals and their importance which elevates him greatly to probably top 5 best players in the last 30 years And top 15 best (NOT GREATEST) players of all time.

Than, separate from the "goodness" is the "greatness"; Ronaldo has longevity and success (individual and team) like very very few and that makes him one of the greatest ever, top 5 or (at worst) top 10 ever for sure.
1 goal, 3 assists
I remember this game from the 07/08 season. This was Ronaldo's best premier league performance that season. Yet, the allround play isn't extraordinary at all; he completes a couple of dribbles, has some nice touches but loses the ball quite abit too while trying an unnecessary trick or attempting to beat his marker.[/QUOTE]
 
Seeing him crying and how much he cares about the lost trophy could make me tempted to feel bad for him, but then…

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Read some comments he was faking it but why on Earth would he do that? It' surely genuine which is bit weird as he's won everything in his career and is almost 40 playing in Saudi Arabia. Perhaps he's deluded enough to think he has a chance of another Ballon d'Or if he scores lots of goals there and wins trophies?
 
It would be funny if an Argentine footballer in 2 years decided he fancied Saudi Arabia and absolutely bossed the league and won everything.
 
Cmon Ronaldo,,,you know you need Casemeiro to protect your defence.....Have a quiet word with the Sheikh.
 
It would be funny if an Argentine footballer in 2 years decided he fancied Saudi Arabia and absolutely bossed the league and won everything.

If Inter Miami wins the MLS this season, Messi would be the key player in taking the worst team to first place. Obviously all the amigos are a part of that. I think that would be a greater achievement in semi retirement than winning the league with Al Nassr or Al Hilal. But still none of this really matters imo. Tbh I think shedding tears over not winning trophies in Saudi Arabia should be a bit beneath Ronaldo but it seems not winning a trophy since leaving Juventus grinds his feathers.
 
Seeing him crying and how much he cares about the lost trophy could make me tempted to feel bad for him, but then…


Ronaldo cried when Portugal lost to Greece in Euro 2004. It is interesting that he is still crying 20 years later. We all know that he works very hard, he is very careful about what he eats, he never drinks, and so on. I thought that such focused people are like robots. And here you have a "robot" crying!

(Perhaps it is a southern european DNA ... I don't know)
 
Ronaldo cried when Portugal lost to Greece in Euro 2004. It is interesting that he is still crying 20 years later. We all know that he works very hard, he is very careful about what he eats, he never drinks, and so on. I thought that such focused people are like robots. And here you have a "robot" crying!

Crying over your national team as a teenager is a bit different than crying about losing a match that means literally nothing as a geriatric.
 
He hasn't won anything there has he? for someone that cares so much about his success, he has to win it. Its his identity. That's why he cried. It's kinda sad actually because he's a victim of his own mentality now. Despite not being young anymore.
 
Crying over your national team as a teenager is a bit different than crying about losing a match that means literally nothing as a geriatric.

Certainly. Well, some people are more emotional than others (Bruno!). I don't know if this really changes with age.

I used to believe that people with great self-control and focus, who can exercise for hours and eat only what the nutritionist recommended, are emotionless. Obviously, that was wrong. This is surprising for me.
 
He’s probably just genuinely sad about his project to conquer Saudi Arabia is going relatively poorly, goal a game record notwithstanding. Or he could be playing up his image as a serial winner, that he cares about every bit of silverware, but I doubt he’s a good enough actor for that.
 
He is too invested in the perception of his persona and he has achieved so much that it's not easy for him to handle what he considers a bad situation, that might not be that bad at all.

Let's not forget that the whole Cristiano persona he build for himself has the basement of quite a disfunctional family and harsh conditions. So playing the internet silly psychologist, that has a lot to do with many of his tantrums, ocassional childish reactions and the genuine humane burst on emotions moments, as much as its has to do with his workrate, driven character and what his inner self thinks is winning. I might be wrong but he didn't fake it at all for me, kind of sad that it will end in meme material.
 
After yesterday's loss and today's UCL win by Real, Ronaldo should definitely be put under suicide watch:lol:

Real after Ronaldo in 6 years
2 UCL
3 La Liga
1 UEFA Super Cup
1 FIFA Club World Cup
3 Spanish Super Cup
1 Copa Del Rey
 
After yesterday's loss and today's UCL win by Real, Ronaldo should definitely be put under suicide watch:lol:

Real after Ronaldo in 6 years
2 UCL
3 La Liga
1 UEFA Super Cup
1 FIFA Club World Cup
3 Spanish Super Cup
1 Copa Del Rey
For all the years he was there I think Ronaldo only won like 2 La Ligas in his Madrid' career. Obviously won 4 Champions Leagues which is amazing achievement but they've been even better without him or as good.
 
For all the years he was there I think Ronaldo only won like 2 La Ligas in his Madrid' career. Obviously won 4 Champions Leagues which is amazing achievement but they've been even better without him or as good.

For me the best versions of those Madrids while he was there were better than this current team, winning or not. Even if some rivals in thsoe years played better than them, it doesn't take away that even on the "loosing" side some of those Madrids with CR were fantastic and really entertaining teams to watch.