Cristiano Ronaldo - Much Ado About Al Nassr

The lack of understanding in this post suggests you're a teenager or early 20's.

Do you believe C.Ronaldo would score at the same rate in Ronaldo's era?

Do you know what weighting of goals means?

What was the GPG ratio of the leagues and players of each era? Why is this important?

Do you know what context means?

It is clear that OP prefers CR over Brazilian Ronaldo, and you are making it personal by making it personal. Why are you getting mad when everyone (billions of people) has their favorite player/team and has the right to express it in any way they want (except insulting, assaulting), are you a kid or a boomer? or are you feeding your ego by arguing with people who just enjoy watching football about the "depth" of your understanding of football?

Not cool.
 
I don't think he ever was a typical playmaker for sure. But I mean, what really defines who is a playmaker and who isn't? As you said, one good pass here and there doesn't cut it, so we do agree there.

I watched Cristiano create plays by the dozens, entirely by himself, in United. Like, an attack usually amounts to a team going through the various offensive phases, reorganization, build up play, progressive passes, reaching the area around the box to then put in a final pass for a shot. I'd watch him grab a ball outside his own area and 20 seconds later he'd have pretty much gotten to a place in the field where he was laying the ball in a very dangerous area to a teammate in a shooting position. He just did it in 20 seconds, erasing multiple defensive lines and completely breaking them apart in the blink of an eye.

In 2024 I have to watch United do sideways passes for 1 minute in the midfield cause no one knows how to break apart defensive lines.

And yes, he did take advantage of his pace for doing what I describe. But not only that, he combined excelently, with not only a good level of through passes, one touch passes, close range link up, but with a degree of variety that wasn't easy to find in another player (Ronaldinho was certainly up there in this regard at the time).

If I hadn't seen it live, I'd be inclined to believe he only did "a good pass here and there". But I saw it. And I heard the crowd. Everytime he grabbed the ball the stadium would roar, that's how dangerous he was, that how good and how fast he could build plays when he got the ball on his own half, and many times further up the pitch.

The thing is, the way he played, isn't it feasible to believe he was not only building, but directing the plays? Is that a playmaker, or not?

In any case, I absolutely hate comparing Cristiano to other playmakers (not a typical one as I said). I do think he was one, but I don't think he was as good as Xavi, Iniesta, and certainly not as good as Messi. Messi probably tops that chart for me.
It's okay to disagree, I respect you see it different than me.
He wasn't a playmaker at all. He could sometimes make a good forward pass but it wasn't a common thing at all. His strengths were pace, power, an amazing leap, extraordinary anticipation of where the ball will reach, off the ball movement and a winner's mentality. He did not have attributes of a playmaker, more like a mordern forward which is ok.
 


Phelan said that Ronaldo had a point and was right about much he said in that Morgan interview.

So many ungrateful twats around here that shat on Ronny's name at the time.
Best fans in the world my ass. Without Ronaldo there are no 06/07, 07/08 and 08/09 PL trophies, plus no CL trophy.
He always gave his all on the pitch (which is more than can be said of certain local lads that play for the club) and he was spot on in his interview back then.

The way most fans jumped on his back is still one of the most disgraceful things the United fanbase have done in recent times.
 
We should not underestimate the influence that Sir Alex had on Ronaldo. Sir Alex gave him number 7, Sir Alex made him abandon his "latin tricks", Sir Alex made him focus on goals.

And, of course, Sir Alex always praises Ronaldo's unbelievable work ethic. At the end of this video, Sir Alex says that Ronaldo told him he will stop playing football at 35 and Sir Alex told him no, no, no, Giggs was playing at 41, you can do it too! If Ronaldo plays till 43 and gets to 1000 goals, I am sure that Sir Alex will be very happy for him, and for the advice he gave!




Sir Alex Ferguson was a fantastic judge of a football player.
And he had the ability to get more out of them than most others.

I have been a huge fan of Ronaldo. But he was totally out of order at the end of his time at OT.
 


Phelan said that Ronaldo had a point and was right about much he said in that Morgan interview.

So many ungrateful twats around here that shat on Ronny's name at the time.
Best fans in the world my ass. Without Ronaldo there are no 06/07, 07/08 and 08/09 PL trophies, plus no CL trophy.
He always gave his all on the pitch (which is more than can be said of certain local lads that play for the club) and he was spot on in his interview back then.

The way most fans jumped on his back is still one of the most disgraceful things the United fanbase have done in recent times.


Its a bit odd that Ronaldo hadnt noticed that we´ve been in the wilderness since Fergie retired and didnt join a world class squad when he rejoined. Also his tantrums over being subbed(why me, why not one the younger players?") and leaving the stadium as part of the selcted team before the the game was over against spurs where we won 2-0 shows that he´s incredibly unprofessional in many ways. Essentially leaving your work place when you´re at work when you are the most highly paid player in the PL because you are a sub in a game the team in winning is as unprofessional as it gets. Yes he trains hard, he´s dedicated. But he´s a "me me me" player. His interview was mainly to force the club to let him go, but I do believe him and Ten Haag had a agreement to let him go in Jan anyway. Sure we can all critize Man Utd, we´ve been shit since Fergie retired, but as a player(and the most highly paid) usually you keep this talk in lockeroom and on the pitch, you dont go on Piers or do what Keane did and slagged his teammates on Man Utd tv. That effectively got him fired. You can appreciate what a player Ronaldo was for us in his last 3 seasons during his first stint and at the same time think he´s petulant and incredibly narcisstic. Personally I believe he refuses to be a sub because it makes his goals/games ratio worse, which I think he cares very much about, but he was rubbish in his final season and rubbish for Portugal in the WC. When you´re that age, you still have to be a team player, you can´t expect to go on indefinitely being the 1st name on the team sheet. His family lost his shit over him being benched for Portugal. Its all about him and wanting to look superhuman all the time even when he´s 37.
 
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Phelan said that Ronaldo had a point and was right about much he said in that Morgan interview.

So many ungrateful twats around here that shat on Ronny's name at the time.
Best fans in the world my ass. Without Ronaldo there are no 06/07, 07/08 and 08/09 PL trophies, plus no CL trophy.
He always gave his all on the pitch (which is more than can be said of certain local lads that play for the club) and he was spot on in his interview back then.

The way most fans jumped on his back is still one of the most disgraceful things the United fanbase have done in recent times.
We won the PL multiple times and reached the CL final again afyer he left.
It is without Ferguson that we wouldn't have won whatever we did as can be proven by the long, painful drop off after he left.

As for the interview, he said what everyone already knows. The reason he said that was to get some gullible fans on his side while he openly disrespected the club. The whole point of the interview was to get out.
 
Everything is up to debate, yet in any case what is more important it's that in the bigger debate if someone might like more or less R9 or CR and wants to compare them, the exercise of imagine a player in another enviroment/period shouldn't be taken that serious or worse, like a fact.

Every player individual carreer was what it was and f we just play mind games with different scenarios, everything changes, the simple alteration of putting Aguero instead of Crespo in the very same play in the 90's it's only just an imagination excercise.

With just watching a player in their real moments in their respective periods, with their respective styles and atributes we can debate and end prefferimg one above the other, feel that both are equal or dislike both...we should not fall in the: Kempes/Aguero,/Tevez wouldn't have scored as much as Bati in Italy in the 90's or whatever similar conclusion we might elaborate.

Every Era/Period we are analyzing it's with the Monday Paper and it was what it was, but we can never know if Cuper would have get along better with Messi than R9 or even worse and how would that relantionship would have affected the formation and tactics of that team and so on.
What would have happened if instead of Cuper, Menotti was coaching Inter and an endless exercise of "what ifs"

We have tons of examples everyday and in the past of very particular situations that could have sent many players in a very diff path.
Mascherano was in the bench with Pardew minutes to go back to River, it took Rafa lots of effort to convince him to go to Liverpool.
Xavi was tired, pissed, in the brink of leaving Barca.
What would have happened if Rikjaard kept in charge instead of Pep?...and so on, you get the gist of it.

I'm not saying that we should not take notice of every period and their global tendencies, their particular players, etc...but every exercise we try to show as a fact when we play this imaginary games, like the one I've mentioned of Kempes and cia in the 90's, it's flawed from its very origin.

Back on every period tendencies, under a certain enviroment, in other words: the macro enviroment.
It's more important to analyze a player and his perfomances as a whole, in that REAL period.
We can use that to understand better why he had a determinated style and how this style was affected by the ideas of a certain coach, general tendencies and lots of stuff in between.

I remember right now an excellent goal by Crespo doing a sombrero on Maldini and from the way some people treat periods, that simple fact of facing Maldini and making that play/goal almost instantly makes him more gifted technically than Aguero, while clearly he wasn't at all.
Yet at the same time, we don't fecking know if Aguero would have even reach that ball or even try that sombrero if some how we can replace Crespo with in that particular situation.
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We can speculate how a player might have played in a certain period? sure, we can determinate which Period had more teams playing more offensivly, with more or less possesion footbal, being more defensive oriented, etc. We can even analyze how a rule can affect the game or even a certain role like the one of keepers not being allowed to grab it with their hands from a pass of a teammate and take in acccount all these to understand the game of any player under his particular enviroment, of course...but this means that we can later come to a conclusion that the whole Messi in the 60's would have scored 3 goals or 300, it's fecking silly. It's simplisitc, it opens the door to the obnoxious "my league/league is 35 better than yours" and so on.
I'm sorry but this subject has been exhausted on here with extensive back and forths about the subject matter to the point nearly all who participated in those debates no longer even broach the subject. Your post glosses over one of the cruxes of what you responded to in that, as discussed extensively in the past, the goal ratios of these club phenoms on teams more stacked than ever before, nearly always drop to a mean when international football brings about a leveller, or at least draws a contrast between the outputs when variables are inserted, which states that factors play their part and cannot be dismissed or removed from the whole.

The most miserly eras produce the least output; 80's Serie A is held above any other time for precisely that; it being a horrible, horrible place for forwards and goalscorers, thus, goals from that time period *must* be weighted correctly, just as the golden shoe for Europe does, where goals are not 1:1 across the continent. It's the same across eras. So that has to be taken into context.

Who you do what against is always going to be a factor when this is objectively looked at, too. If you've had the fortune of making your name off of truly great defenders and defensive sides, you are going to be held to a different light. There's nothing much that can be done about that for those who didn't get to test themselves against such esteemed company, but it's always a factor when these discussions are broken down to minutiae.
 
I believe "the Serie A in the 90's" argument is used in favour of R9 when comparing him to current players which needs some context.

Firstly, while I agree that Serie A during R9's time was, even compared to today's Premier league, a stronge league. But that doesn't mean it was a difficult league to score in. For instance in 97/98, during Ronaldo's first and only truly injury free season in Serie A, 6 players scored 20+ goals and the average goals scored per game was 2.78 which similar to most seasons in the Premier league and la liga. The 80's and early 90's serie A was a different ball game all together.

So, I do believe Cristiano would score alot (but not 50/ season) in that era's serie A because regardless of what his fanboys will have one believe, the truth is that his entire game even during his prime at Real Madrid (2009 to 2015) was geared towards scoring. His other contributions were far far behind that aspect of his game.

Secondly. A player like R9 is not judged by statistics alone. Beirhoff scored more goals than R9 in 97/98. Does that mean he was better? Nope, not even close. Reason is R9 had far more to his game than scoring and when it came to scoring had a unique ability to be able to create his own goals consistently like very few before (Maradona, Pele) and truly only one (Messi) after him.

And my second point is where I base my judgement on players; R9 before injury was better than any version of Cristiano. But, Cristiano is greater than Ronaldo for his longevity and success at club level.
Well, to add full context. Ronaldo going to Serie A from Spain, having had a season that modern football hadn't seen a player have - for goals scored but also the way he played the game - was the club event of arguably the entire decade. Serie A's greatest defenders coming out and saying he won't be able to replicate *that* here and his games basically being an event in themselves (I would love to know how much global attention that one move spiked the entire league by). Ronaldo facing off against sides was akin to Manchester United coming to town and every side gave their absolute all to affect the game against him. Essentially, each game being a cup game to the opposing side. Does that matter? Perhaps, as it adds layers to the subject - Ronaldo was not entering the same environments or given the same kind of attention as a sole entity to anyone active in the league.

Wrt C.Ronaldo in those conditions, why would it be one way and not the other for him, as in, why would he be likely to lean toward his club performance and not his international performance in such staid and stifling conditions? Where should the discrepancy be factored or dismissed? You've said in your post that his game during that prime period was geared towards scoring, but what happens when he meets sides who are out solely to stop him who sit deep and are not interested in opening up? We're talking about C.Ronaldo being given the same attention and microscopic analysis of his game as Ronaldo got, not a Bierhoff or other contemporary, btw.

Despite what might seem like posts to the contrary, I rate C.Ronaldo as the best player of his type to play the game - flanking in from the left as a wing-forward, his career is mostly spectacular, but that position was not an open invite in that time period under those conditions and to think it wouldn't be a lot harder for him to play his natural game there belies logic and knowledge of the tactical setups of the time as well as the horrid cynicism and physicality. There is no open space to cut into, no open areas to run into. It's not some simple layer trace of the time period he played in and that's before the players themselves are added to the mix.

re. performance. That's not even a question; not really even part of the discussion - the context is solely revolving around goals and the hows and whys.
 
It is clear that OP prefers CR over Brazilian Ronaldo, and you are making it personal by making it personal. Why are you getting mad when everyone (billions of people) has their favorite player/team and has the right to express it in any way they want (except insulting, assaulting), are you a kid or a boomer? or are you feeding your ego by arguing with people who just enjoy watching football about the "depth" of your understanding of football?

Not cool.
If you took that as me being mad then you're misreading the post. Short shrift, because it's a very, very, very old discussion by now with the same points discussed in great detail.

Actually, your posts reads like you've redacted what was responded to, as the person posting was espousing data without context and not just talking about the joy of the player.
 
The lack of understanding in this post suggests you're a teenager or early 20's.

Do you believe C.Ronaldo would score at the same rate in Ronaldo's era?

Do you know what weighting of goals means?

What was the GPG ratio of the leagues and players of each era? Why is this important?

Do you know what context means?

Yeah, it gets my goat how much people neglect to consider this. Who the hell compares to the defenders of bygone eras these days? Who from the current era would you put up alongside Maldini, Cannavaro, Nesta, Hierro, etc.

They’ll just juxtapose numbers as if it gives you the full picture. That’s also neverminding how much less concentrated talent was into clubs back then. Pitches also weren’t perfect bowling greens back then either.

Simple-minded nonsense. Ronaldo’s dedication and drive is insane, but the pure football fan in me loves the OG more.

We won the PL multiple times and reached the CL final again afyer he left.
It is without Ferguson that we wouldn't have won whatever we did as can be proven by the long, painful drop off after he left.

As for the interview, he said what everyone already knows. The reason he said that was to get some gullible fans on his side while he openly disrespected the club. The whole point of the interview was to get out.

Yeah, with a "I don’t respect the manager” thrown in for good measure.

People who think United were at fault and Ronnie did nothing wrong come across as fans of the player more than the club, IMO. His behaviour at the World Cup was shitty too, and he was understandably benched as he brought very little to the team. His ego wouldn’t allow him to shoulder any of that though, and he’s been blanking Santos since the WC.

Great player in his day, but his legacy is taking a beating with his disgraceful handling of the tail-end of his career. You can get away with that when you’re a Balon d’Or candidate, but not at his current level.

Cosying up to Piers Morgan and Jordan Peterson suits him too. I’ve always felt iffy about him, ever since he compared United holding him to his contract to slavery. Recent years have made me actively dislike him.
 
I'm sorry but this subject has been exhausted on here with extensive back and forths about the subject matter to the point nearly all who participated in those debates no longer even broach the subject. Your post glosses over one of the cruxes of what you responded to in that, as discussed extensively in the past, the goal ratios of these club phenoms on teams more stacked than ever before, nearly always drop to a mean when international football brings about a leveller, or at least draws a contrast between the outputs when variables are inserted, which states that factors play their part and cannot be dismissed or removed from the whole.

The most miserly eras produce the least output; 80's Serie A is held above any other time for precisely that; it being a horrible, horrible place for forwards and goalscorers, thus, goals from that time period *must* be weighted correctly, just as the golden shoe for Europe does, where goals are not 1:1 across the continent. It's the same across eras. So that has to be taken into context.

Who you do what against is always going to be a factor when this is objectively looked at, too. If you've had the fortune of making your name off of truly great defenders and defensive sides, you are going to be held to a different light. There's nothing much that can be done about that for those who didn't get to test themselves against such esteemed company, but it's always a factor when these discussions are broken down to minutiae.

My English sucks, but I trully don't know if you got my point, so sorry for that and don't worry I'm not trying to start a silly "debate".

Just to clarify, I do not deny the characteristics of any enviroment from any period, I just do not play the game of changing a single variable. As an example I gave before: exchanging player for player from diff periods to make a point trying to show it as a fact, if we do that, we can do it with multiple variables and that would affect any enviroment, no matter how predominant a certain idea/strategy was in a certain moment.
As a side note, this without even entering the rabbit hole of other huge aspects from any period like the one where most people in Europe do not has the least idea about how was the game on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean and a huge pletora of situations, aspects, enviroments that many times are not even put on the table.

I trully think that Periods are most of the times analyse in quite a simplistic or one sided way. Yet it's normal because people would tend to go to the more established idea than actually trying to see at least the two sides of a coin regarding everything, when both sides can be as valid as the other and actually coexist. In general we can make a list of classic statements we read on every forum that are typically shown as the only factual "truth" (we've seen it in this thread plenty of times), while that very same statement has another angle with at least the same "value" or similar weight and actually like I've said before, coexist without nulifying the other. We, as people, sometimes will tend to choose one of those, the problem it is when we run away with it holding it like a banner of the only facts or truth. This thread it's full of this type of posts.
 
Recent years have made me actively dislike him.

He's obviously a thundercnut of the first water.

He also left United before he reached his peak as a player (after making idiotic statements and attracting attention to himself as an absolute thundercnut) - and then returned for an altogether unnecessary and "brand" driven second spell that ended in the most undignified manner imaginable (where he pretty much proudly declared himself an absolute thundercnut).

But, yeah - why oh why can't United fans just embrace him as a "legend"?

(If it was a bit unclear: he's a thundercnut.)

(Yes, I like that word: thundercnut.)
 
Hard to tell how impressive his season has been. On the one hand, he's 39 so to be scoring so many goals is pretty impressive. On the other hand, he's playing against semi-professional players.

Will be very interesting to see how he is utilized at the Euros, and how he fares. Hopefully his ego doesn't wind up firebombing a very strong Portugal squad.
Just use someone like Mitrovic (a recent PL player and well known striker) as a rough guideline. He’s a goal a game player there. Ronaldo finished on 35 goals in 34 games.

Given his age it’s incredibly impressive, but the actual number seems quite normal for any good striker.
 
It's impressive in any way we would like to see it. He is almost 40 years old.

At the same time Benzema, Firmino and others aren't pulling those numbers either, but let's not "play that game", because every player tries to do his task in a particular enviroment on any given moment that is more important than the League itself. I'm just naming them because more than probably more than just MItrovic having a great season, his timing and team situation might be better than those other two better players than him (same for Cris).

Also the League it's on a level below other traditional ones, but sometimes even that makes playing in such conditions not that comfortable, more when players are accostume to a certain level of play from his mates and rivals that kind of makes it easier to predict the following move.

I mean as silly "imaginary" example, being Luis Suarez and go for every ball knowing Messi is the one delivering, it's not the same if the ball is being handle by Federico Redondo, at the fifth time Federico doesn't deliver a good pass, Suarez stops running and in the sixth Federico finally puts the ball right, for no one, because Suarez tired of that shyte didn't go for it.
I've seen CR rushing some plays nowadays because he knows that he is a level above, but also because if he doesn't try to make sthg out of a merely good situation, his own team might fvcked it up in a very silly way a minute later (see Messi in Miami too). Every League and level has its nuances that does not make everything go smooth as butter, so still producing those numbers and some of them being quite great goals (no matter when, or where), it's impressive.

Should we take this whole period in Arabia, or Messi's "Pele's Cosmos" stage as sthg. more than them delivering their last games with ultimate Pro attitude, nah, even being Pros, even wanting to win always. It's the last stage of their carreers and thay just want to enjoy their time and be fit for their last NTs games while earning tons of bucks for 23 Generations.
 
Yeah, it gets my goat how much people neglect to consider this. Who the hell compares to the defenders of bygone eras these days? Who from the current era would you put up alongside Maldini, Cannavaro, Nesta, Hierro, etc.

They’ll just juxtapose numbers as if it gives you the full picture. That’s also neverminding how much less concentrated talent was into clubs back then. Pitches also weren’t perfect bowling greens back then either.

Simple-minded nonsense. Ronaldo’s dedication and drive is insane, but the pure football fan in me loves the OG more.



Yeah, with a "I don’t respect the manager” thrown in for good measure.

People who think United were at fault and Ronnie did nothing wrong come across as fans of the player more than the club, IMO. His behaviour at the World Cup was shitty too, and he was understandably benched as he brought very little to the team. His ego wouldn’t allow him to shoulder any of that though, and he’s been blanking Santos since the WC.

Great player in his day, but his legacy is taking a beating with his disgraceful handling of the tail-end of his career. You can get away with that when you’re a Balon d’Or candidate, but not at his current level.

Cosying up to Piers Morgan and Jordan Peterson suits him too. I’ve always felt iffy about him, ever since he compared United holding him to his contract to slavery. Recent years have made me actively dislike him.

This.

His enormous ego was tolerated previously because he could deliver so well on the pitch. The problem he would eventually have to face was always going to be his body no longer being able to keep up with the demands of his ego.

He could have chosen to accept his decline gracefully, accepted a reduced role in the team, focused on mentoring the young players, and retired with us as an absolute legend.

Instead he threw a tantrum and blamed everyone but himself for his decline in that wretched interview.

He's always been a prick, especially with the way he made the 2008 summer window all about him and his "dream move" after our CL win. But I honestly thought he'd grown up since then, and that's why he was returning to us in 2021.

Boy, was I wrong. His ego had ballooned to stratospheric levels.

I'm just glad he's not our problem anymore.
 
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Just use someone like Mitrovic (a recent PL player and well known striker) as a rough guideline. He’s a goal a game player there. Ronaldo finished on 35 goals in 34 games.

Given his age it’s incredibly impressive, but the actual number seems quite normal for any good striker.
Mitrovic was putting up good numbers for fullham in his last season in the prem where he scored 14 in 24. Not far fetched to say that he could be a 20+ PL goal per season scorer with a better supporting cast. So Ronaldo out-scoring him certainly reflects well on Ronaldo with the added context.
 
I watched the penalties out of curiosity, and I have never seen Ronaldo this stressed during penalties or this sad after a loss. And yes, it was worse than how he looked during the 2008 penalties.

He wasn't acting either, it felt completely genuine.
 
He should take the first penalty. Never does. WTF man. He took the second only because Telles fails his penalty.
 
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He should try scoring one of his many goals when it really matters. It’s deeply satisfying seeing him in tears, and I don’t think that’s just because he’s a bellend and the way he exited the club, I think most of it is down to his mental fanbase. They just make you enjoy moments like that in a way you normally wouldn’t .
 
Don't know how to feel about him crying like that.

I'm not his biggest fan, and in one way I think it's a bit odd. He'd never have heard of this trophy not too long ago and would have faced plenty of bigger disappointments over the course of his career in competitions he'd have always held in high regard. Would have thought he might have toughened up by now.

On the other hand it does show how competitive he is, how much winning means to him and much losing hurts. I don't think anyone would be happy losing, but I doubt any of the other imported players would break down like that, especially on the back of winning so much throughout a career already. You could look at that say it's why he became so good.

Part of me wants to laugh at him, part of me respects him for it.
 
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"He doesn't follow records, records follow him" dude

Number of trophies since 2021: 0
 
Don't know how to feel about him crying like that.

I'm not his biggest fan, and in one way I think it's a bit odd. He'd never have heard of this trophy not too long ago and would have faced plenty of bigger disappointments over the course of his career in competitions he'd have always held in high regard. Would have thought he might have toughened up by now.

On the other hand it does show how competitive he is, how much winning means to him and much losing hurts. I don't think anyone would be happy losing, but I doubt any of the other imported players would break down like that, especially on the back of winning so much throughout a career already. You could look at that say it's why he became so good.

Part of me wants to laugh at him, part of me respects him for it.

I think the breakdown was partly a recognition of how far his career has fallen. Nothing wrong with it at his age of course, but for him it’s a lot to take in, and it’s probably taken him 18 months to properly get it.
 
I watched the penalties out of curiosity, and I have never seen Ronaldo this stressed during penalties or this sad after a loss. And yes, it was worse than how he looked during the 2008 penalties.

He wasn't acting either, it felt completely genuine.
I would hope that there is some sense of self reflection starting to creep in, where he is finally beginning to realize that this is now his level, and that he's no longer the force he once was.

In saying that, he'll probably go on some delusional rant in another interview where he says that the Saudi League is better than the Premier League, or something equally ridiculous.
 


Phelan said that Ronaldo had a point and was right about much he said in that Morgan interview.

So many ungrateful twats around here that shat on Ronny's name at the time.
Best fans in the world my ass. Without Ronaldo there are no 06/07, 07/08 and 08/09 PL trophies, plus no CL trophy.
He always gave his all on the pitch (which is more than can be said of certain local lads that play for the club) and he was spot on in his interview back then.

The way most fans jumped on his back is still one of the most disgraceful things the United fanbase have done in recent times.

Take a look what you call people and think about what is disgraceful.

For us older fans that knows how world and people works. We know why he did that interview. Everything else is just ridiculous talk.
 
Phelan said that Ronaldo had a point and was right about much he said in that Morgan interview.

So many ungrateful twats around here that shat on Ronny's name at the time.
Best fans in the world my ass. Without Ronaldo there are no 06/07, 07/08 and 08/09 PL trophies, plus no CL trophy.
He always gave his all on the pitch (which is more than can be said of certain local lads that play for the club) and he was spot on in his interview back then.

The way most fans jumped on his back is still one of the most disgraceful things the United fanbase have done in recent times.
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I mean what he did for Utd I love him and what not but why are people been butt hurt over what he does or what he doesn’t do in Saudi ? If he scores 70 goals or doesn’t score 5 goals , I genuinely couldn’t care less . I care what he did for Utd and I still remember the excitement he created at 18 years of age or when he returned v Newcastle. Ya he fecked up in that interview but what he did before hand i’ll
Never forget the excitement he brought to just going there. I brought my son to Spurs on his return when he scored that hat trick and you could not take that smile off his face no matter what . My son was born in 2008:drool:
 
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