Will they even release one this year?
Maybe they could market it to rival fans. Man United bloopers 2013/2014.
Confirmed: Moyes sacked.
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Maybe they could market it to rival fans. Man United bloopers 2013/2014.
What is a good live blog to follow for the day? Seeing as I am doing feck all else until he gets sacked.
An entire playing career from age 5 through to retirement being coached by a long list of coaches, some of whom were at the top end of coaching quality. An entire career learning, understanding and participating in training drills and training games that cover every possible footballing playing topic. An entire career playing alongside top players in training through all age groups and playing with world class players in training. Then at the end of his playing career he headed down the coaching route and was able to attend and pass all the top coaching courses and attain his badges. Nicky Butt wasnt the man selecting teams and determining tactics and playing styles, he was the training ground coach putting on sessions he was told to do.
I am not a fan of this whole new look that the club has adopted since Sir Alex's retirement & Gills departure:
- Leaking transfer targets to the press
- The Woodward flight details and whereabouts
- This whole new instagram, twitter, facebook business
- £200m rebuild nonsense
- Signing Fellaini and Mata to make statements
- Making statements about each and everything
- Leaking reports through the media
- This protracted Moyes' sacking saga since yesterday
It's not even a blooper, we don't even make a blooper
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In few words he's got zero experience as coach right? There's a big difference between obeying orders and actually making them (even though in a more restricted environment).
There's nothing wrong in keeping 1-2 inexperienced coaches and groom them to brilliance WHEN you've got a stable side filled with quality coaches. However we dont have that. Also it seems that no matter what happens a player never retires at OT. Players keep playing at 35-40 years of age and then they are given a coaching role irrespectively if they are still/is good in the role or if there's somewhere better for that role (externally).
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I think 1 year is enough (albeit on the lesser side), to instill some of your ideas on the team. He has been a manager for a long time now, I am sure he would know what it requires to put across at least some of the ideas. Some. As I said, his Everton team showed grit if anything. Even that was lacking here.
Of course the club weren't expecting him to go all guns blazing right from the word go. I am sure they weren't expecting him to challenge for the titles. Even as we fell lower, there weren't any signs of improving. Instead of improving on a win, we just sunk lower in the next match. I am sure would have expected at least near abouts of the 4th spot. That didn't happen. We are 6 points behind Spuds. The United hierarchy would have expected him to start slowly and then grow into the role of manager of a big club. Alas, we didn't see that either. The best examples are his press conferences ("we will try", "we will try again", "we will try in the next match"). They are a direct copy from his Everton days. Hence.
The senior players were never going to give Moyes any slack, which is why we ought to have hired a successful manager. That said when people claim ownership of their workplace, how do you change things? Who's to say the next man will be able to gain their respect? Clearly we need a big personality, otherwise we could struggle again. I suspect Van Gaal won't exactly be the most diplomatic...
If he's get sacked, headache for the management would be find the right replacement.
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I am sure someone on here will know, but I wonder from Sir Matt to Moyes what the average tenure of United managers has been. I think we have been pretty consistent in keeping managers for about 3 years, but be interesting to know what is fact. The Doc, I think was sacked for non-footballing reasons, but everyone else I think had been given a pretty good go, even when we were not looking like challenging. Maybe, the fact we are successful now has changed our expectations.
If we look at Liverpool during their dominance, the managers went of their own accord, but when they started not to win, I think the frequency of manager change was quite short.
Totally agree.
Moyes hasn't performed, and had to carry the can. The club have made the call and fair enough.
But the players need to take a long hard look at themselves. You can argue all you like about how the team is set up, and negative tactics, but at times this year a good number of the squad have looked incapable of getting even the basics right.
To me, some seem to have totally lost their bottle and wilted under the pressure they were facing as the season went on.
If Van Gaal is appointed, it'll be interesting to see what happens, because he won't mess about or pull any punches.
No we will purge this season form our minds.
As far as we should be concerned this season never happened and we will never speak of it again.
I think maybe it's because Fergie held everyone and everything at the club in a vice-like grip, controlling even the smallest detail. Now everyone is fighting for their own little patch and there's no overall control.
I wish people would stop going on about what a good guy he is too, and how this is somehow relative to how he deserved to be treated as a football manager. I'm a good guy. I'd like to think the majority on here are "good guys." There are thousands upon thousands of decent hard working people in the world, the vast majority of whom don't have life as good as David Moyes. Are most football managers not hardworking? How exactly are we defining good? He's not a missionary or building huts for war victims in the jungle. With Luis Suarez about to pick up a league winners medal and Ryan Giggs poised to take over, is there going to be lots of meditation on how undeserving they are of these honours for not being "good" people? I'd guess not remotely, because they're incredibly good at their jobs.
If we're really resorting to David Moyes's general level of human decency as his main positive strength, or the primary reason why he didn't deserve this treatment, then my God he must have been really, really shit.
I think maybe Moyes' biggest problem as regards the players, was that he wasn't Fergie.
If that is true, shame on them.
Personally, I think if I was Moyes, I would have accepted that the job was to big and offered to resign. Then again, I think if the united board had balls they would have made it clear at Xmas, that it was top 4 or your out on your ear.
But players revolting as though they have anything to be proud about this year is a bit of a joke.
For me it's got nothing to do with how he should be treated as a football club manager. Any person in any job would deserve better than the way this sacking has been handled.
That's far too simplistic, remember how Chelsea looked under AVB and how those same players, albeit quite a bit older, are looking under Mourinho.
That is how it comes across from the outside. First we are realising statements of giving him a substantial budget for a rebuild, next we are sacking him in the media without actually sacking him.
I feared that things might go tits up once Sir Alex retired. What has happened till now is definitely following that script.
Some of them have been revolting all season
We don't know what went on behind the scenes. If they felt their manager was clueless, I'm glad they acted. If they played any part in getting him sacked, I applaud them.
One day of speculation and a £5m pay off? He's hardly being horse whipped through the streets then fired out of a cannon.
This is quite probably the single most important part of his failure, he fired off all the experience that could have guided his hand and even then decided it best to bring some equally inexperienced staff from his own background. Perhaps given time it could have worked for Moyes but he should really have realised by Christmas that he'd made a mistake and brought in a better coaching team, I would be surprised if Phelan would turn down a return or even so there are plenty with experience that might have come in.
Moyes dug his own grave right from the off really and instead of accepting the mistake and correcting it he just continued digging, a character flaw not suited to a top managerial position. You might even say that he put his close colleagues above all else even at detriment to the company as a whole.
They played their part on the park, they didn't need to do it off the park as well.
I think that's fair to say. It drives the point further on how tough it was for anyone taking over Fergie.
In the full glare of the whole world. With Man City supporters holding up notices at last night's game imploring the club not to sack him.
Yeah, it's been an object lesson in how to treat employees.
I'm sure an announcement will be made later this morning as soon as the players have been informed of the decision and who will be taking over as interim manager.
Rio to confirm it on twitter?
Yeah, that said I suspect the players may have changed their minds if Moyes was showing signs of improvement behind the scene. With the possible exception of Mourinho, all other managers would have had to gain the players' respect over the course of the season. I think the next man will have to easier though.
So there should be no commotion or compassion for anyone since there are people in parts of Asia and Africa living in abject conditions? What kind of stupid fecking logic is that.
May not be the best way to leak the news but rival fans taking the mickey out of us has got nowt to do with the club and everything to do with the way Moyes has left us reeling during his incompetent managerial stint.
it's like kids running to their mummy!
Its hard to know where to start with this, but I disagree with basically all of it.
He did once get 4th you know
They will come out and say that his job is secure later this morning, won't they?
My friend lost his job when he was called into the senior manager's office and given the marching orders, all while I was seated next to him. He has a kid and a family to look after. He has my compassion and I feel for him and his situation.
Not a guy who will be paid millions as a parting gift after one season and will invariably get a new job soon after.
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