What the f*ck are you on about you embarrassment. Yes, I would prefer United lost a meaningless game on the last day if the season if it meant Liverpool didn't win the league. I would suggest I'm not alone.It's not the scenario this season, Liverpool will win the title.
That said, you would sooner United lose just to hurt Liverpool than United win and Liverpool too. Losing becomes a habit, it should not be tolerated. The standards of Manchester United Football Club have been set long ago and we don't tolerate losing, well you do, but everybody else doesn't.
Your desire for Liverpool to lose is greater than United to win, you care more about Liverpool losing than United winning
Confirmed: Moyes sacked.
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Exactly
Hah. 'Fun'.
Even our good parts were bad.
I mean we knocked Olympiakos out. Only after losing the first leg 2-0.
Januzaj's debut was good. We relied on a teenager to dig us out against a team rock bottom of the league.
We knocked Liverpool out the cup. So we could lose on penalties to the side bottom of the league.
Got through to the knock outs of the CL. So Bayern could give us hope and crush it in 20 seconds.
I suppose we have Mata's blogs. They're good.
I've seen far too many disrespectful and even hateful comments towards Moyes. He's been hopeless and outrageously out of his depth. But some of the remarks I've read today have been embarrassing. Thankfully I think the majority agree with us...I'd hope.
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agreed. imo, you'd have to be crazy to want Utd to win in that situation.
I pretty much agree with that to be honest. It's football at the end of the day, show some class.
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He got £5m for signing on didn't he? that coupled with his wage isn't exactly far off 10s of millions
Simeone the man for me, unbelievable achievement if Athletico win that league.
He was asked if he would be interested in the united job and didn't dismiss it, said something about only thinking about the Chelsea game. It's on !
He was asked if he would be interested in the united job and didn't dismiss it, said something about only thinking about the Chelsea game. It's on !
So how long until those boring twats start saying I told you so regarding hiring Moyes?
(Me included)
(Me included)
Nicky Butt?! Why him?
For real? Didn't engage in the issue at all.
This is the first thread in months that hasn't been filled with smug scousers 
I think a lot of people prior to him becoming manager were against it. When he eventually became manager, the majority backed him. Until it turned really bad. Now we are here, and we all want him gone.
He was paid 3m a year at Everton for the last 5 years, then ~5m a year with us, that plus 4.5m+whatever he earned at Everton prior to his big 5 year contract = tens of millions.
@Twisted_Woody is so convinced now that he'll write to the Times and demand they stop publishing articles written by a fake Twitter account
oh ffs
I'll get my coat This is the first thread in months that hasn't been filled with smug scousers
Nice isn't it?
This has completely lifted the place tbf. I like Moyes but him leaving has got the enthusiasm going again on here. Imagine watching 'them' lift the title while Moyes remained.
What does he mean by his management style? I have never heard a bad word about Simeone (as a manager). All of his players seem to play for him and he has genuine passion.
Couldn't agree more. I really feel sorry for David Moyes and hope he bounces back somewhere more fitting as he is a good manager and has proven it in the past with previous clubs, sometimes against us.
Agreed entirely. I was quite late to turn, knowing he was facing a hard job. However, at no point this season have I thought the corner has finally been turned. A lot of people thought the 3-0 win over Olympiakos would be the turning point. Although, realistically we should have never been in that position in the first place and with all due respect we should be beating them comfortably anyway. I've seen nothing from Moyes that suggests to me he has the ability to be successful as Manchester United manager.
Wait, wasn't there something about a Glazer meeting van Gaal a few weeks ago?
All i know is he seems to be a bit of a nutter. Chooses some players based on their star sign was one example i saw. Amazing, the job he's done there however, but i can see why some would want someone proven over a longer period.
Oh shit good spot, someone bump that thread ASAP.
In fairness that young Ajax team he produced in the 90s was pretty good
He'd probably get Beckham sent off again the sneaky Argie devil.
I think the Olly thing stops just short of humiliation or any mean-spiritedness.
But otherwise spot on, and TBF the general opinion throughout the season has been per the rest of your post and is pretty unlikely to change/manifest in any 'Finally the fecker is gone' type of comments even after he's sacked.
Not liking the way this has been handled nevertheless Moyes has not shown enough of anything to suggest he is the right calibre of leader for Manchester United. I feel like I could almost forgive the abject performances if he had been a passionate speaker, a man with a clear direction and drive. I think he has known for a long time this wasn't gonna end well for him. Too much hope and belief, United need personality and arrogance.
I was on the side of him being given at least two seasons to improve and get us challenging but he is so uninspiring and he has quite obviously not got the respect of the fans or players.
I was listening to Ogden on 5live earlier and he said something along the lines of when Moyes walked into a dressing room full of players who had won everything in domestic football, having just beheaded the whole support team who coached them to many titles, they looked at him and asked the question; "...right then, so how are you going to help me win more medals?".
SAF once said too that you should never let a winning team grow old together as is apparent from previous decades when he mercilessly cut off and threw out then perceived indispensable players. Unfortunately he let this one do just that and his successor neither had the authority, assertiveness and respect gaining credentials to cut the chaff.
Sorry David, wish you the best of luck but the poison chalice has claimed it's first victim.
I was on the side of him being given at least two seasons to improve and get us challenging but he is so uninspiring and he has quite obviously not got the respect of the fans or players.
I was listening to Ogden on 5live earlier and he said something along the lines of when Moyes walked into a dressing room full of players who had won everything in domestic football, having just beheaded the whole support team who coached them to many titles, they looked at him and asked the question; "...right then, so how are you going to help me win more medals?".
SAF once said too that you should never let a winning team grow old together as is apparent from previous decades when he mercilessly cut off and threw out then perceived indispensable players. Unfortunately he let this one do just that and his successor neither had the authority, assertiveness and respect gaining credentials to cut the chaff.
Sorry David, wish you the best of luck but the poison chalice has claimed it's first victim.
Just need them to slip for a perfect end to a disastrous season, I highly doubt they will though
This is now the leading story on Sky news.
The nightmare is over?
I agree with you, I don't like any personal attacks or anything and I do feel sorry for him, but when I saw that Photoshop I didn't think it was anything particularly cruel.
I believe he's extremely autocratic, similar to a Roy Keane with the added results, for comparison. It's worked wonders at Atletico Madrid, but I think it could go sour very quickly when he's working with the egos of established stars.
Edit: For reference I would like to have it added that I think he's worked absolute miracles at Atletico, of Jesus-like proportions. I just don't think his management style would translate that well to the English game, and to top clubs especially.
Yes having an ambulance at the game is better... but check again how Jose's version does not jive with the documented events mate.
Yep. I think the support he has had from the fans has been superb. The match day fans in particular were amazing. The support has gradually dropped away. I think many on here didnt want him to begin with but did want him to get a fair chance.
Where's the insult this time round? Your last posts to or about me:
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And I was the one accused of being condescending and using insults. Anyway to your point, after all of those discussions where I merely defended a few positives of Moyes' regime, not Moyes himself, you think I was in support for Moyes himself?
When people criticise the few things he has done well then I will say what I think, for example, you stated he has Mata on the white lines but I stated Mata has freedom to roam! When people say these things then I will show them evidence (in this case video) to the contrary because it's unfair to make up lies, as you have done not just against him, but also against me with my supposed 'trump card' when you were talking about me disrespectfully in the newbie poster thread. Honesty is one thing but making things up to prove a point and paint somebody in a bad light isn't the way things should be done.
When asked about my opinion I stated I back the board's decision because they are best placed to get it right, I also made clear he has severely under performed however they will assess his risk factor and whether he can achieve the objectives next season. They have done so and they have explored their options, they now are ready to act (or so it seems). I said all along I back the board's decision and I am not changing my stance on that.
You made statements that were flawed and I pointed those out. They were in relation to Moyes, I was not a Moyes supporter because I have done the exact same thing to his supporters who have refused to acknowledge his errors (e.g. those who think last summer was not a bad transfer window!). This is because I try to look at the situation from reality instead of making things up. And the reality is that I've backed the board from the start and will continue to do so.
Another example, I defended Fellaini when somebody called him a league two footballer at best even though he isn't a player I have been impressed by.
But consistently over a season?
Surely to be good manager, you need to have the odd trophy?
haha, sorry bout that. I have literally only been F5'ing this thread in the last few hours.
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