Confirmed: Moyes sacked.

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Really pathetic people here having a go at Nev because he doesn't agree with their views.

Yep

Amazing how Gary Neville is the best football pundit ever when he's telling the truth about other sides but when it's something they don't want to hear about their own club he's been crap all season and been outdone by Jamie frigging Carragher :wenger:
 
Yes they should, but to call a club legend and former captain a knobhead for not agreeing with this sacking is not right.

I didn't say that personally. I agree calling him one is going too far.

Calling him knobhead etc and disagreeing are two totally different things. Saying that the joker Carragher speaks more sense is hilarious comment to make.

Like I said above, I disagreed and didn't call him anything because I've got a lot of respect for the guy. As I also said, Neville's a better pundit than Carragher but the latter has spoken much more sense than Neville on this particular issue.
 
His brother is rich, and can get another job. He won't go on the breadline.

I don't expect Neville to call for Moyes sacking. I do expect him to stop actively supporting a cancer within Manchester United.

Speaking of cancer within the club, if those stories about leaking line-ups (only) to the press are true then it's further evidence that Moyes has been failed by his players.
 
I'm guessing there'll be no-one complaining if you do that.

I wouldn't be complaining either as lost 2 family members to cancer this year and trying to compare a bad season for the club to cancer is disgusting. If I replied to the post I would have ended up banned, as what I said would have been nowhere near as calm as yours.
 
Why should Manchester United be different:

1) It's part of the history of the club.
2) It's part of the romance of the club.
3) It's part of the club's "image".


You know Barcelona's "More than a Club" mantra. Yeah. That isn't just catchphrase. They do lots of shite to sell that line, and whenever something goes against it, it hurts the club.

Now we don't have a catchy phrase that sums up the club, but I hope to god we stay different.

Yeah yeah.. What they getting a transfer ban for again?
 
You come back home after 1.5h and there are 13 new pages... :(
 
I wouldn't be complaining either as lost 2 family members to cancer this year and trying to compare a bad season for the club to cancer is disgusting. If I replied to the post I would have ended up banned, as what I said would have been nowhere near as calm as yours.

Sorry for your loss mate and the only reason I'm calmer than you because I haven't suffered the tragedies that you've.
 
It's a bit of a dilemma. It's never good to see anyone sacked, much less the manager of Man Utd, our beloved club. The guy clearly believes he can turn it around, and he's trying hard, but there are a lot of indications that he's not up to the job. On the one hand, someone is being pilloried from post to pillar, and the next hand, you want the club to be playing good football and generally put a smile on our faces.

I feel sorry for him, but like a guilty pleasure, I want this to happen for the sake of everyone. I hope he finds a better job, and let's see if this will inded happen.
 
Yeah yeah.. What they getting a transfer ban for again?
Exactly. It's a load of shite, of course it is, and when they get found out it hurts the club.

Just as it will hurt us if we act like some plastic micky mouse FC
 
I find it staggering that if a caf member dares to criticise an ex player then they are also abused by some. I have serious disagreements with some of Nev's statements - that doesn't mean:

a) I'm gonna make personal comments and abuse him or
b) That I don't appreciate what a great player he was for the club

It simply means I don't agree with his views as a pundit. And that's what he is when talking on Sky - he's not a player, not a supporter, but a pundit.
 
If this does not happen after all this the caf will no doubt implode.
 
You wonder if in negotiations with one of the transfer targets, they have said they won't sign or have expressed concerns if Moyes is the manager.
 
I find it staggering that if a caf member dares to criticise an ex player then they are also abused by some. I have serious disagreements with some of Nev's statements - that doesn't mean:

a) I'm gonna make personal comments and abuse him or
b) That I don't appreciate what a great player he was for the club

It simply means I don't agree with his views as a pundit. And that's what he is when talking on Sky - he's not a player, not a supporter, but a pundit.

Exactly. I've not said anything too personal about him, admit he's an excellent pundit and know what a great player he was for us. But for some that seems to be too far.
 
That's been happening for some time now, KM. If I were more of a dick, I'd perma ban those posters with immediate effect.


I'd ban them, Dwayne, surely most find those types of comments utterly disgusting.

As for Moyes, the man needs to be put out of his misery, he clearly wasn't the right man to manage huge stars. Spurs would be the right place for him...
 
It's possible that the Glazers have a top 4 clause in the contract of Moyes' contract which has only kicked in this weekend after it became mathematically impossible for us to make top 4.
 
Danny Higgingbottom on Talksport now and he says that, yes, you would like to give a manager time, but the performances have been bad and that yesterday was probably the tipping point.
Thank god we didnt win then!

But in all seriousness i think the clubs refusal to comment on this is pretty damning, the only other time something like this has happened was when SAF retired and they refused to comment... we all know what happened next...
 
I find it staggering that if a caf member dares to criticise an ex player then they are also abused by some. I have serious disagreements with some of Nev's statements - that doesn't mean:

a) I'm gonna make personal comments and abuse him or
b) That I don't appreciate what a great player he was for the club

It simply means I don't agree with his views as a pundit. And that's what he is when talking on Sky - he's not a player, not a supporter, but a pundit.
Fair enough, but saying "He also looks like he cares for United more than Gary." is a personal comment imo.
 
It's a common figure of speech, and hardly to be taken literally. In this context it simply means that Moyes is damaging the club from within.

Agreed. In this case I dont think the term implies that having moyes as a manager is like having cancer, or its wishing cancer on someone, or any similar hateful term.
 
Sorry for your loss mate and the only reason I'm calmer than you because I haven't suffered the tragedies that you've.

Thanks :) both deaths were in the last 3 months so been hard on me and family. So brings into perspective how much family means more than football even though we as a club are suffering I can take it, as much more important stuff to deal with and get worked up about.
 
It's a bit of a dilemma. It's never good to see anyone sacked, much less the manager of Man Utd, our beloved club. The guy clearly believes he can turn it around, and he's trying hard, but there are a lot of indications that he's not up to the job. On the one hand, someone is being pilloried from post to pillar, and the next hand, you want the club to be playing good football and generally put a smile on our faces.

I feel sorry for him, but like a guilty pleasure, I want this to happen for the sake of everyone. I hope he finds a better job, and let's see if this will inded happen.

What would be a 'turn around' at this stage though? finishing 4th next season? winning the league cup?

There's a big difference between actually turning things around and getting this club challenging for titles again, and the turn around that Moyes most likely has in mind. I just can't see us challenging for titles with the man at the helm, never mind challenge in Europe.
 
I don't see why Bobby should get away with out flak.

Moyes was his man from about 3 years ago.
The better question is, why should Sir Alex and Sir Bobby receive so much criticism for one bad choice.

Christ sake, some people have rewrote history to the point that David Moyes is some Big Time Charlie lower league manager. I can't go through the merits of choosing him again, but he may go down as the "right man" at the "wrong time".

So Sir Alex and Sir Bobby chose a proven Premier League manager to lead the club for the next decade...
So the players never took to him and nerves got the better of the players and the club plummeted...
and so the club had to dispense of him, and try again...

So what? One bad year. They gave David Moyes a try, it didn't work out, so what.


The only things I am sad of are the coaches that lost their jobs and the players that have chosen to leave, that may not of. No Champions League next year is sad, but the club goes on.
 
It's a common figure of speech, and hardly to be taken literally. In this context it simply means that Moyes is damaging the club from within.

I don't think they meant harm, but it's one of those analogies that's still bad in whatever context you put it in and is better off just not used at all.
 
They're hardly unavailable. I think we're only limited by the shortlist we produce. The job opportunity after Moyes is actually more attractive than post-Ferguson. There's confirmed budgets to be invested, the pressure is less and you have the opportunity to be an inst-a-hero have never been greater at such a prestigious club.
I think how much the fans have acted like brats this year will put off a huge amount of managers, also no CL football and a squad looking like it's not capable of finishing ahead of liverpool/chelsea/city next season. I see what you're saying and there is opportunity there, but with how tight the glazers usually are, how harsh the fans have been from the first few games this season and with how poor a lot of the team have been this season, I can't imagine why someone would leave a good situation to come here and risk smashing their reputation.
 
I think how much the fans have acted like brats this year will put off a huge amount of managers, also no CL football and a squad looking like it's not capable of finishing ahead of liverpool/chelsea/city next season. I see what you're saying and there is opportunity there, but with how tight the glazers usually are, how harsh the fans have been from the first few games this season and with how poor a lot of the team have been this season, I can't imagine why someone would leave a good situation to come here and risk smashing their reputation.
Whut?
 
I think how much the fans have acted like brats this year will put off a huge amount of managers, also no CL football and a squad looking like it's not capable of finishing ahead of liverpool/chelsea/city next season. I see what you're saying and there is opportunity there, but with how tight the glazers usually are, how harsh the fans have been from the first few games this season and with how poor a lot of the team have been this season, I can't imagine why someone would leave a good situation to come here and risk smashing their reputation.

Who exactly have acted like brats? The support in the stadiums have been impeccable in the face of dire shite.
 
What would be a 'turn around' at this stage though? finishing 4th next season? winning the league cup?

There's a big difference between actually turning things around and getting this club challenging for titles again, and the turn around that Moyes most likely has in mind. I just can't see us challenging for titles with the man at the helm, never mind challenge in Europe.

Well, it's all good, but my point is Moyes believes that he could turn it around. What exactly he wants to achieve is another, but he's giving his all and trying his best. Just that, his best is not good enough for Man Utd.
 
The better question is, why should Sir Alex and Sir Bobby receive so much criticism for one bad choice.

Christ sake, some people have rewrote history to the point that David Moyes is Big Time Charlie lower league manager. I can't go through the merits of him again, but he may go down as the "right man" at the "wrong time".

So Sir Alex and Sir Bobby chose a proven Premier League manager to lead the club for the next decade...
So the players never took to him and nerves got the better of theplayers and the club plummeted...
and so the club had to dispense of him, and try again...

So what? One bad year. The gave David Moyes a try, it didn't work out, so what.


The only things I am sad of are the coaches that lost their jobs and the players that have chosen to leave, that may not of. No Champions League next year is sad, but the club goes on.
Fair post.
 
We'd be getting Hip Hop press releases.
Invite the MOTM of every game to his restaurant alongside himself and three rap artists in an online talk show/comedy panel named 'Ferdy's five alive'. Booyakasha!
 
I think how much the fans have acted like brats this year will put off a huge amount of managers, also no CL football and a squad looking like it's not capable of finishing ahead of liverpool/chelsea/city next season. I see what you're saying and there is opportunity there, but with how tight the glazers usually are, how harsh the fans have been from the first few games this season and with how poor a lot of the team have been this season, I can't imagine why someone would leave a good situation to come here and risk smashing their reputation.

Vialli said sometime back that in Italy, Moyes would have been fired three times by now. It's generally agreed everywhere that at any other club, Moyes would have been fired already.
 
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