I hope he s entitled to have an opinion which differs to yours...
Confirmed: Moyes sacked.
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Exactly. Certain individuals connected to the club have been stuck in a fairytale, including SAF with the appointment. A manager with no European experience and no trophy success chosen as the successor to the greatest of all time never really made sense. It was a fairytale situation.
It's good to see that the club are finally taking action though, but Neville for one comes across as a stubborn type.
Not really. By that logic all those Wigan managers that preceded Martinez were evidently better than him as he finished consistently lower than they did.
He may have qualifications but I don't think he is qualified for a job of the stature of United gaffer as his incompetence has shown.
Gary Neville is being a politician.
Simples!
Simples!
What did Gary say?
Really pathetic people here having a go at Nev because he doesn't agree with their views.
Yeah, he does. The guy is entitled to his opinion, but if someone says something that's clearly ridiculous then they're going to get called out on it. If I went into the football forum and declared Fernando Torres as player of the year, then I couldn't defend it by simply saying "It's my opinion" when it's clearly not true.
Do managers even resign anymore?
nope
I don't understand all this nonsense towards GNev. He is obviously going to be biased. He was always known as an emotional guy. Do you expect him to suddenly change that now since he is a pundit. His younger brother's job is on the line here. Obviously with all the uncertainty surrounding it, he will be feeling it as well. Also, he has only ever played under SAF at club level, so his thinking is obviously colored along those lines.
Some of the shite being spouted about a club legend is really embarrassing. You may not agree with what he thinks/says but to start calling him a knobhead is cheap.
Some of the shite being spouted about a club legend is really embarrassing. You may not agree with what he thinks/says but to start calling him a knobhead is cheap.
exactly
It's pathetic but typical of the Caf.
That's been happening for some time now, KM. If I were more of a dick, I'd perma ban those posters with immediate effect.
Why should Manchester United be different:
1) It's part of the history of the club.
2) It's part of the romance of the club.
3) It's part of the club's "image".
You know Barcelona's "More than a Club" mantra. Yeah. That isn't just catchphrase. They do lots of shite to sell that line, and whenever something goes against it, it hurts the club.
Now we don't have a catchy phrase that sums up the club, but I hope to god we stay different.
1) It's part of the history of the club.
2) It's part of the romance of the club.
3) It's part of the club's "image".
You know Barcelona's "More than a Club" mantra. Yeah. That isn't just catchphrase. They do lots of shite to sell that line, and whenever something goes against it, it hurts the club.
Now we don't have a catchy phrase that sums up the club, but I hope to god we stay different.
Like I said though, if I called Fernando Torres player of the year then I wouldn't be able to defend that by simply saying, "It's my own view.", because it'd be nonsense. If people disagree with what Neville's saying, they'll mention it on a football forum.
doubt stock analysts will assume we're going to get a manager more qualified than moyes, with klopp simeone mourinho etc unavailable and van gaal the only reasonable name on the table. it's just too much of a leap of faith
I don't agree with your views on Moyes but I completely agree with this. Neville has his own views. Maybe they are colored because of his brother being on the coaching staff but again he has every right to be worried about Phil's job. Don't get this rant against GNev for saying anything which is only his personal view.
I've heard some of what he said on Talksport, he is criticising how they play vehemently, well Gary that is down to the manager. In an ideal world a manager would get time but they are business now and the owners cannot afford for this to go on.
Neville's only crime is a romantic delusion based upon his significant attachment to the club that spans over 20 years. In his head he knows what Manchester United really is, a business, but in his heart it's still that frantic, Ferguson team he played for ten years ago, one that is holier than all of the rest. He has a tough job and if I'm honest I think his finger is in too many pies.
Disagreeing with Nev's opinion is fine, but saying that Gary is protecting his brother's job is wrong IMO. Nev have always had the old fashioned view of giving managers the time. He even backed AVB when most of the English Media slaughtered him.
Why would then when they can get a few million by hanging in till the bitter end?
Yes they should, but to call a club legend and former captain a knobhead for not agreeing with this sacking is not right.
Calling him knobhead etc and disagreeing are two totally different things. Saying that the joker Carragher speaks more sense is hilarious comment to make.
Yep. He's not even said anything that bad.
I'm guessing there'll be no-one complaining if you do that.
G Nev has been an idiot all season. He'd want us playing with two traditional wingers like Valencia and Young. Rather than Kagawa, Mata and Januzaj.
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They're hardly unavailable. I think we're only limited by the shortlist we produce. The job opportunity after Moyes is actually more attractive than post-Ferguson. There's confirmed budgets to be invested, the pressure is less and you have the opportunity to be an inst-a-hero have never been greater at such a prestigious club.
Danny Higgingbottom on Talksport now and he says that, yes, you would like to give a manager time, but the performances have been bad and that yesterday was probably the tipping point.
Yeah, that's fair enough. Like I said, Neville's entitled to his own view, but it's a bit daft that people are suddenly offended when people find his view a bit daft and silly. He's a professional football pundit, so if people disagree with him then they're obviously going to comment on that.
One of stupidest things I've ever read on the CAF. Take a bow
It's amazing the people that have had shite flung at them this season:
Phil Neville
Gary Neville
Sir Alex Ferguson
Sir Ryan Giggs
add to that half the players. Might as well stop supporting United if you really feel that harshly.
Phil Neville
Gary Neville
Sir Alex Ferguson
Sir Ryan Giggs
add to that half the players. Might as well stop supporting United if you really feel that harshly.
Indeed
Even that is not wrong IMO. Phil is his family. He has every right to have his opinion swayed by his brother's job security. What is wrong in that? It's like people on here feel everything is all about football and family is behind the club. The reality of the situation is that almost everyone would worry and behave in the same way as Gary if their family's job was on the line.
He's part of the England set-up... it's not his job to think about progressive football!
Neville has been sticking to the company line for a long time now, he will not wish doom to a manager, let alone a British one. To his defense he stayed consistent with the same logic when AVB was in trouble so he's atleast not showing any British-bias.
Don't forget Sir Bobby Charlton too.
Revan should stick to Star Wars.
It's just a little silly that they briefed the papers. Why not just wait and do the sacking? It doesn't look good.
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