Confirmed: Moyes sacked.

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One last record, my Manchester United manager to be sacked since 1986
 
starting to fear the worst now after all, only yesterday he was saying plans were already well underway for the summer...
 
Surely United would've released an official statement denying the story by now if it were bollocks.
 
They went on Ferguson's recommendation. There would have been fecking murder if they didn't appoint Moyes after Ferguson blatantly stated he wanted him as his successor, and it would have emerged.

It doesn't matter what say they had. Moyes wanted the players. Moyes was the manager. They backed the manager. What is the big deal in all that? Are they supposed to go over the manager's head now and say "no actually, he's shite and we don't want him."? Because that is a far, far worse situation to be in.

Thats a fair point, but they invested another 37.5m at christmas into this Moyes project and really the situation hasn't changed, we've continued to meander around the same level in the league. I'm not saying that I disagree with the sacking, but did they honestly think signing Mata would turn the season around for us, and now that it hasn't they want rid of Moyes. Surely Moyes had approached the board with a clear long term plan, involving Mata, that they agreed with and then handed over the wonga.

Now we sack Moyes, maybe the next manager doesn't want Mata/Fellaini, Mourinho certainly wouldn't. So we now have to pay Moyes, and for a new manager and all the squad issues remain as clear as day because of their reluctance to invest big money on individual players in recent years, until the mata panic buy. If the mata purchase wasn't a part of a long term plan involving Moyes, and successive transfer windows then how can you be left with any faith in the management of the club. They are good at turning their asset into a sponsorship cash cow, treating fans like consumers - but they have as much culpability in this season as Moyes in my opinion, it all started with the shambolic summer transfer window last summer, lead by the pinhead ED.
 
Mark Ogden, who broke it and is very reliable with United (at least this season) has done a follow up article, so he still believes it's happening:



Article here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...avid-Moyes-downfall-at-Manchester-United.html

Moyes to be sacked as Manchester United manager

1 Coaches clear out:

David Moyes’s first decision at Old Trafford arguably set in motion the nightmare season he has endured. By sacking Mike Phelan, Rene Meulensteen and Eric Steele, he dispensed with respected coaches and replaced them with unproven Everton staff.

2 Fellaini signing:

Moyes spent the summer attempting to boost his squad, but indecision over targets and rejections from Cristiano Ronaldo, Gareth Bale, Leighton Baines and Cesc Fabregas resulted in the signing of Marouane Fellaini, who has been a disaster.

3 Moaning about tough fixtures:

Despite inheriting a team that had just won the title by 11 points, Moyes marked his first press conference as manager by complaining about the tough fixtures in United’s start to the campaign.

4 Robin van Persie:

Despite repeated denials from both parties, the friction between Moyes and Van Persie has been one of the key factors in the manager’s failure to succeed. Van Persie has shown little appetite to perform for Moyes.

5 Billing Liverpool as favourites:

It may have been stating the obvious, but when Moyes declared Liverpool as favourites ahead of last month’s 3-0 defeat at Old Trafford, he angered supporters for handing that billing to the club’s biggest rivals.

6 Handling of Wilfried Zaha:

Signed for £12m by Sir Alex Ferguson last January, Moyes inherited the England winger last summer, but confused supporters by failing to hand him a chance to impress before loaning him to Cardiff in January.

7 Tactics:

Supporters accustomed to free-flowing, cavalier football under Ferguson grew tired of Moyes’s defensive and negative tactics, with United rarely securing emphatic victories under the former Everton manager.

8 Treatment of Giggs:

The United veteran has been largely overlooked by Moyes this season, despite impressive performances when selected. Having been promoted to the coaching staff, Giggs has rarely been seen communicating with Moyes.

9 Defeats by Liverpool and Manchester City:

United suffered 3-0 home defeats against their biggest rivals in losing to Liverpool and Manchester City and Moyes enraged supporters by suggesting after the City defeat that they were a club United must "aspire to".

10 But it's not all been bad:

There have been some positives. Moyes promoted Adnan Januzaj and gave the teenager his chance and he also turned around the Wayne Rooney situation when the forward appeared destined to leave. But it was not enough.
 
Mutual consent? I don't feck care just get him out of the club!
 
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Surely United would've released an official statement denying the story by now if it were bollocks.

Exactly.

No assurances about the future from United yet. He's gone.
 
It was inevitable really. Fighting for fourth was all that was required, if we were in Everton's place right now that would have been enough. But we've had the double done over us by City, Liverpool and Everton in embarrasing ease, there is no fight or energy in the team anymore so something needs to change.
 
Surely United would've released an official statement denying the story by now if it were bollocks.

I wouldn't be surprised if they are thrashing out a package for him to leave by 'mutual agreement'. Some halfway house between sacking and resignation.

As I say I wouldn't be surprised IF that was what happens...
 
The poster commented on Moyes as a person. He even said that the job was above him in the first place. Let's not look to criticise for the sake of it, eh.

If he was going to be sacked you'd have thought it would have come about differently. Whatever people think about him managerial wise he is a decent bloke who should be the first to know IMO.

We'll just have to see anyway.
Look, nobody would feel sorry for me if I turned out to be shite at my job. How good you are as a person has nothing to do with it.

You may feel sorry for David Moyes, of course. I don't. He's a multi-millionaire who will get another well-paid job even though he fecked up the biggest career opportunity he had. I'm sure he thought he would be good enough and yes, it's very sad that it turns out he's not. Doesn't mean that I feel sorry for him.
 
Could be that United are providing lead time for selected media outlets to write their stories as an exclusive. For other outlets they offer no comment or a tightly worded denial.

No way a story like this gets made up or misunderstood. Looks like a considered media roll-out that will culminate in an announcement of Moyes's departure.
 
Waited until mathematically eliminated from top 4. Which means there's probably a clause in the contract.
 
Could be that United are providing lead time for selected media outlets to write their stories as an exclusive. For other outlets they offer no comment or a tightly worded denial.

No way a story like this gets made up or misunderstood. Looks like a considered media roll-out that will culminate in an announcement of Moyes's departure.

I agree. Thats exactly what it looks like to me.
 
Now I am feeling nervous, please don't be a false rumour. :(
If this whole thing is completely made up by some journalists, it will be one of the biggest scandals in a while. I can't believe it's gotten to this point without having an ounce of truth in it.
 
The poster commented on Moyes as a person. He even said that the job was above him in the first place. Let's not look to criticise for the sake of it, eh.

If he was going to be sacked you'd have thought it would have come about differently. Whatever people think about him managerial wise he is a decent bloke who should be the first to know IMO.

We'll just have to see anyway.

You know him personally (that he is decent). He has acted anything except decent on the big screen this season, has been completely disgraceful blaming everything and everyone. Even when he blamed himself on the next sentence he blamed the players.
 
Goal.com but it's news right...

EXCLUSIVE
By Duncan Castles

Manchester United's senior hierarchy is “evaluating all possibilities” as it attempts to arrest the club's steep descent under David Moyes. Contrary to public statements that Sir Alex Ferguson's successor will definitely be granted at least a second season as manager, Moyes' dismissal is prominent among those possibilities.

Though Tuesday's humiliating 3-0 home loss to Manchester City ensured that United's first post-Ferguson season is statistically the club's worst in the Premier League era, the review of potential candidates to replace Moyes should not be regarded as a knee-jerk reaction.

It is thought that key decision-makers within Old Trafford have been assessing potential replacements as manager for several weeks and further talks are planned.

Having already sanctioned a spend of over £60 million on two headline transfers, handed Wayne Rooney a club-record contract renewal, and approved an unprecedented recruitment spend for this summer, the Glazer family must be concerned that the Scot could be damaging to the value of their asset.

Recruited on the recommendation of Ferguson, Moyes was not the majority shareholders' preferred choice for their first managerial appointment as owners of the club.

The award of a six-year contract was essentially a PR play, with Moyes' contractual terms including a break clause that enables the Americans to sack him at far less than the full salary costs of that term.

Promoted to chief executive officer in the same summer that Moyes was appointed, Ed Woodward will also be conscious that his effectiveness in the new post has been assessed in the context of results delivered by another man's choice as manager.

In addition to overseeing a series of performances that saw the Premier League champions' title defence effectively end in January, Moyes' managerial decisions have fomented grave internal dissent within United. A strategy of attributing under-performance to the allegedly severely sub-standard squad he inherited from Ferguson has proved particularly divisive.

Key players are said to "have had enough of the way Moyes is destroying their reputation" with his repeated assertions that a squad that won the Premier League by 11 points last season required a radical rebuild to have any chance of retaining the title. On the contrary, they believe the Scot's errant tactics and man-management have caused the team's decline.

Others talk of Moyes' failure to understand the essence of Manchester United, and the confusions produced by his management following years of crystal-clear leadership under Ferguson.

Characteristic of such problems was Moyes instructing the team to employ a 4-3-3 formation against City at Old Trafford after preparing to play a 4-4-2 in pre-derby training sessions.

Moyes' decision to bring Rooney on board with his tenure by reinstalling a player who had repeatedly placed his own interests above those of the club as the team's most important figure has also angered and perplexed.

The level of discontent with Moyes among United's squad is such that there is now discussion about making a direct request to the board that he be replaced.

Manchester United were unavailable for comment.
 
Why is the fact that he hasn't been sacked news? All of the reports that started this mayhem stated that the board had lost faith with him and so were going to sack him soon. Probably at the end of the season but if their hand was forced then possibly sooner. None of the reports were that he was already sacked or it would happen today.
 
Similar to how the Fergie retirement story broke, if Moyes wasn't leaving, they surely would have denied it by now.

Saying he's not been sacked isn't the same as saying he is not going to be sacked. Seems a matter of time until it's official. I hope...
 
Similar to how the Fergie retirement story broke, if Moyes wasn't leaving, they surely would have denied it by now.

Saying he's not been sacked isn't the same as saying he is not going to be sacked. Seems a matter of time until it's official. I hope...

they have. to talk sport :lol:
 
Goal.com but it's news right...

EXCLUSIVE
By Duncan Castles

Manchester United's senior hierarchy is “evaluating all possibilities” as it attempts to arrest the club's steep descent under David Moyes. Contrary to public statements that Sir Alex Ferguson's successor will definitely be granted at least a second season as manager, Moyes' dismissal is prominent among those possibilities.

Though Tuesday's humiliating 3-0 home loss to Manchester City ensured that United's first post-Ferguson season is statistically the club's worst in the Premier League era, the review of potential candidates to replace Moyes should not be regarded as a knee-jerk reaction.

It is thought that key decision-makers within Old Trafford have been assessing potential replacements as manager for several weeks and further talks are planned.

Having already sanctioned a spend of over £60 million on two headline transfers, handed Wayne Rooney a club-record contract renewal, and approved an unprecedented recruitment spend for this summer, the Glazer family must be concerned that the Scot could be damaging to the value of their asset.

Recruited on the recommendation of Ferguson, Moyes was not the majority shareholders' preferred choice for their first managerial appointment as owners of the club.

The award of a six-year contract was essentially a PR play, with Moyes' contractual terms including a break clause that enables the Americans to sack him at far less than the full salary costs of that term.

Promoted to chief executive officer in the same summer that Moyes was appointed, Ed Woodward will also be conscious that his effectiveness in the new post has been assessed in the context of results delivered by another man's choice as manager.

In addition to overseeing a series of performances that saw the Premier League champions' title defence effectively end in January, Moyes' managerial decisions have fomented grave internal dissent within United. A strategy of attributing under-performance to the allegedly severely sub-standard squad he inherited from Ferguson has proved particularly divisive.

Key players are said to "have had enough of the way Moyes is destroying their reputation" with his repeated assertions that a squad that won the Premier League by 11 points last season required a radical rebuild to have any chance of retaining the title. On the contrary, they believe the Scot's errant tactics and man-management have caused the team's decline.

Others talk of Moyes' failure to understand the essence of Manchester United, and the confusions produced by his management following years of crystal-clear leadership under Ferguson.

Characteristic of such problems was Moyes instructing the team to employ a 4-3-3 formation against City at Old Trafford after preparing to play a 4-4-2 in pre-derby training sessions.

Moyes' decision to bring Rooney on board with his tenure by reinstalling a player who had repeatedly placed his own interests above those of the club as the team's most important figure has also angered and perplexed.

The level of discontent with Moyes among United's squad is such that there is now discussion about making a direct request to the board that he be replaced.

Manchester United were unavailable for comment.

That is a old article after City game.
 
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Lynk's cynical posts? Priceless. There's some things happiness can buy. For everything else, there's David Moyes.
 
I have always liked Moyes and respect him as a football man. Never once have I slagged him off.

But I see no future with him and have been saying that for a few weeks now. I am excited for a new future for man utd and I hope Moyes gets a good job ASAP

That's fair!

I do like him but I'll be very excited to see a more proven manager in charge, I also hope they aren't British!

Moyes' tenure will be picked apart and it's a guarantee that a lot will come out in the wash but I still respect the man, have sympathy for him in that I think it was an almost impossible job for any manager - and will still be a mighty challenge for the next man - but he didn't do well.
 
Similar to how the Fergie retirement story broke, if Moyes wasn't leaving, they surely would have denied it by now.

Saying he's not been sacked isn't the same as saying he is not going to be sacked. Seems a matter of time until it's official. I hope...


Yup, they wont announce a thing until the NYSE as been informed, especially an unofficial statement from a press officer.
 
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