So glad that Moyes is gone. He has this habit of accusing everyone bar himself, when things go wrong and praising nobody but himself when things go right. I will never forget the way he talked about our squad, about SAF dead-certain to struggle this season, about getting to the byline, aspiring ourselves to the levels of Pool and City. I am so glad that Scholes is back, and I have no doubt that we will do much much better next season. If anything, it is Moyes who owes a big "THANK YOU" to SAF,supporters and the Board for letting him manage at a lever that he is not capable of. I was proud to hear that "Stick that banner up your arse" chant, but I had no doubts that "The wrong one: Moyes out" was a correct message and am really happy it materialized.
Confirmed: Moyes sacked.
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I've gone from being pro his appointment to really, actively starting to seriously dislike the guy. He spent the best part of a year ripping the heart and soul out of our club with disastrous consequences, failing to hit any perfectly reasonable targets, reducing our team to a squad of lily livered cowards and delivering a compelling lesson in top flight managerial incompetence and now we're going to have him continue to point the finger at everyone else at the club. He failed spectacularly and nowhere does he acknowledge this. A man of "strong ethics" my arse - the right conduct for him now would be to hold his hands up and admit to not being good enough.
He has an incredible amount of neck in some respects and its a shame he didn't show more bottle in the job.
He has an incredible amount of neck in some respects and its a shame he didn't show more bottle in the job.
Fair enough. He could never turn down the job once it was offered to him. No harm in trying and he was honest, hard working etc. But he needed to be a lot more than that. This is the manager of MUFC. He chose to take on the job and he was always doomed to fail. If he couldn't handle it cos he didn't realise how big it was (which he has admitted) then that's on him. Not exactly a surprise how big it would be. And if he had a plan, he was the only one who had any idea what it was.
SAF asked the fans to back him and we did. But the players had to work with him so if they were 100% unconvinced and we know what the result of that was, it was never gonna work. You could see there was no faith in him or spirit from the team virtually all season. People keep blaming the squad for results, how they were inferior to everyone else (this is rubbish) and they talk about how long SAF had been there, but whoever his successor was they had to be big enough to deal with players or know them well enough already to get the best out of them.
The next manager has to be somebody who can take us forward.
I understand the pragmatism - I just couldn't do it emotionally.
That dreadful banner is gone!
Every news rag is saying we acted unprofessionally in Moyes' firing. Well shit, its hardly the clubs fault entirely that information was leaked to the press. Even if it is, the same thing happens everywhere. We did well to hold on to this dross for 10 months without kicking Moyes to the curb, so to call the club unprofessional is beyond me. Was anybody watching us this season in punditry or around the league, or were they jus talking out of their asses?
Leak? Briefing would be a more accurate description, I think.
Too much of an attempted smokescreen going on here - apologists for an awful manager with dreadful results are simply trying to muddy the waters and obscure just how bad he was with making a non-story into the major story. He was sacked the same as any other manager - and was told face to face on the first working day after the decision was taken. But by continuing to push this story of poor David being treated appallingly (when it's the same as every manager sacked this year in the premiership), they attempt to hide the deficiencies of the man.
That dreadful banner is gone!
Good and hopefully its a lesson learned.
Cringeworthy from the day it was put up.
Now that I understand. I thought in the run-up to a couple of other matches there was a chance I would end up wanting the oppo to win, but my instincts took over. I managed it for Everton though.
The club should go on a roll here, Day 1 Moyes sacked, Day 2 Giggs in-charge, Day 3 Scholes back, Day 4 Young, Cleverley, Fellaini, Nani sold/released from contract, Day 5 Welbeck signs 5 year extension, Day 6 Chelsea beat Pool with a second string side and United perform as if Fergie never left 6-0 Giggs with a pen at the end,Day 7 Klopp comments he has been "deeply moved" how the class of 92 have risen to save the club, announces he can not ignore the opportunity and claims several Dortmund players have felt the same way.
Next week Monday Klopp announces he has joined Manchester United and is bringing Hummels, Reus with him and says hes has had fantastic conversations with his best mate Kroos, Giggs is confirmed assistant with Scholes.
A man can dream....a man can dream indeed.
Next week Monday Klopp announces he has joined Manchester United and is bringing Hummels, Reus with him and says hes has had fantastic conversations with his best mate Kroos, Giggs is confirmed assistant with Scholes.
A man can dream....a man can dream indeed.
Interesting.
http://m.bbc.com/sport/football/27125115
From a 'source' it seems United had players lined up last summer but dithering Dave stopped those transfers.
Looks like we won't be doing the same this season and will press ahead with what our scouts suggest.
http://m.bbc.com/sport/football/27125115
From a 'source' it seems United had players lined up last summer but dithering Dave stopped those transfers.
Looks like we won't be doing the same this season and will press ahead with what our scouts suggest.
https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/early-doors/trying-sack-best-stories-moyes-era-080933579.html
So the mud slinging continues through the media, at this point these stories are doing no one any good in my opinion.
Theres no way this one can be true, a manager of his experience couldn't be so unprofessional.
Had he actually said that his position would have been unrecoverable and he would have been sacked back then.
So the mud slinging continues through the media, at this point these stories are doing no one any good in my opinion.
Theres no way this one can be true, a manager of his experience couldn't be so unprofessional.
Had he actually said that his position would have been unrecoverable and he would have been sacked back then.
It's ridiculous really. Any other manager at any other club would have been slaughtered in the press for doing what Moyes did to us. Everyone watching football has seen countless managers hounded, pressured and eventually sacked for doing a better job than Moyes did. He got possibly the easiest ride from the media that I've ever seen, and it seems like they're still backing him for some reason. I have no idea why
Because a lot of them don't like United and Moyes is british and well liked after all his years of brown nosing journalists.
I dunno, that penalty shoot-out was really that bad...
Pretty damning article. This:
Stands out for me. Moyes blew the transfers because he wasn't used to buying world class players.
Anyone have any idea what happens to Moyes' scouts?
Just out of interest, if we don't have a manager in place by the end of the season, who's going to sign the players over the summer? Surely Fergie will go on a shopping trip for new players for the incoming manager?
No players (who wear our shirts) would ever deliberately miss a penalty kick so as to get a manager sacked. In any PK miss, any player would have this psychological hurt feeling which no one else can understand.
A manager blaming players for missing penalty is really heartless, if not altogether stupid. Complaining about their performance, yes, but not about missed penalty. It's really unprofessional of Moyes if this is true.
The more people speak about it, the more I wanna say - Good effin riddance.
They did not miss the penalties on purpose but, their performance against Sunderland over two legs was abject.
I heard on the radio that the club have got certain targets lined up that they will sign before the world cup if they haven't got a manager yet.
Taken with a pinch of salt of course, but the ongoing Luke Shaw rumours make more sense if it's true.
Surely he didnt bring in his own scouting team
Naw, he just bought them all iPads.
Still can't believe this thread is for real. 
Our players wouldn't feck up a chance to go to a cup final on purpose just to get Dave sacked in my opinion.
But the reason i know its bullshit is if Moyes had actually said that he would have been sacked the next day. Simple as that really.
He fecked up a lot of things in his year in the job but i doubt he would have been unprofessional or stupid enough to say something like that, thats not to say he didn't do other things that were stupid or unprofessional.
Correct it was as was Moyes performance, especially the home leg.
Yeah. Moyes brought Robbie Cooke from Everton as his chief scout. Don't know what happens to him.
The more that comes out, the more I feel strongly about this guy not being the nicest of person.
From that BBC article..
Christ.
I think so too. When you see how nasty he appeared in the media (when suggesting Sir Alex would have struggled with the team this season, referring to our team as needing an overhaul). He also seems to have a big ego and not a very friendly person.
Or completely overwhelmed by his undeserved promotion and lashing out in self-preservation. Either way, it's not hard to understand why he lost the dressing room.
I don't know if he really had an ego. He just seemed like an extremely insecure person, and putting other peoples achievements down is what insecure people do like what he said about ferguson struggling.
That, for me, was Moyes in a nutshell. Safe, practical, logical maybe - but afraid to trust his gut, afraid to take risks and continually getting punished for it.
But it's true for multiple title winners to deliberately slack off, ridicule their boss and do all those things they stand accused of ? Not necessarily having a go at you but if the Moyes camp is launching a smear campaign on our players, no not launching but upping since these negative stories have been the theme of the season, tgen why shouldn't it be believable ? Ryan Giggs, Rio Ferdinand, Carrick and Van Persie are being torn apart for ''unprofessional'' behaviour because of these deliberate leaks but yeah Moyes is so experienced he couldn't stoop that low well where was his experience when he was leading us to the worst title defense in living memory ? That dressing room became a circus and it's on him because it was his brief to make sure that it doesn't .
Strootman, Garay and Thiago me thinks.
Well it was he who continued to accept those performances rather than lay down the law to everyone and make sure that there is no ambiguity regarding the minimum performance standard expected from his players . Why didn't he make people pay for those abject performances ? Because that performance against Sunderland surely wasn't the first nor was it going to be the last but the culprits kept on getting more and more games and he failed to look for stop gap solutions during the winter window to the problem areas that had become so bad that the team could not carry them anymore ? He can blame anyone and everything but the fact remains that he got his big break and he fecked it up all on his own .
You only have to look at my other posts mate to know im no fan of Moyes to put it mildly.
The reason i don't believe that particular story is because had Moyes been stupid enough to say ''you lot are trying to get me sacked'' to his players he would have been sacked the next day i think.
On these stories coming out, at this stage i think we all now have a fairly good idea how inept Moyes actually was in his year here and that some of our players were a bit naughty in their dealing with him. But the mud slinging is damaging to United the players and Moyes. Time to move on for everyone i think.
He did.
I found that article hilarious to be honest & well believable..
That type of shite goes on every work place - employees slaggin off their boss & superiors etc.. so its no big deal.
As regards to the self-help book Moyes was supposedly readin on the flight - thats believable also. He looks like an avid reader & he surely must have read Pubes too...
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