Confirmed: Moyes sacked.

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rpitroda said:
-------------PPPLLLEEEAAASSSEEE can someone copy the text of what he has said? I can't see the pictures.-------------
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" To have been appointed as manager of Manchester United, one of the biggest football clubs in the world, was and remains something of which I will always be incredibly proud"

Taking charge after such a long period of continuous stability and success at the club was inevitably going to be a significant challenge, but it was one which I relished and never had a second thought about taking on.

The scale of the manager's job at United is immense, but I have never stepped away from hard work and the same applies to my coaching staff, regardless of their limitations and lack of experience for this job. I thank them for their dedication and loyalty throughout the the last season.

We were fully focused and committed to the process of the fundamental rebuilding that is required for the senior squad. This had to be achieved whilst delivering positive results in the Barclays Premier League and the Champions LEague. However, during this period of transition, performances and results have not been what Manchester United and its fans are used to or expect, and the players let the fans down in that respect, so I understand and share their frustration.

In my short time at the club I have learnt what special places Old Trafford and Carrington are, world class facilities just as Goodison Park was. I would like to thank the United staff for making me feel so welcome and part of the United family from my first day. And of course thank you to those fans who have supported me throughout the season and still believe I should have been given extra time to rebuild. I wish you and the club the best for the future.

I have always believed that a manager never stops learning during his career, and I know I will take invaluable experience from my time as United's manager. I remain extremely proud to have led the team to the quarter finals of this year's Champions league and I remain grateful to Sir Alex Ferguson for believing in my ability and giving me the chance to manage Manchester United."
 
Remix said:
The LMA's chief executive Richard Bevan has also added these words of his own:

"The LMA is very disappointed with the nature of David's departure from Manchester United and to read extensive reports in the press, confirming David's sacking, before David himself had been spoken to officially by the club.

"Throughout his time at United, David, as he always does, has conducted himself with integrity and professionalism, values that he believes in and that have been strongly associated with the club and its rich tradition. It is therefore sad to see the end of David's tenure at United being handled in an unprofessional manner."
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What about the unprofessional way he got the job? Didn't ask permission of Everton before speaking to Ferguson behind their back most of the season did he. Saint Moyes been hard done to has he. Boo hoo.
 
The more i read about him the more angry i get that he was allowed to manage this club.

Midfielders not allowed in front of ball??? Madness. Utter madness. No wonder Cleverley has had such a shite season, thats not his style at all.

Management improvement book? On a Euro away? good way to instill confidence in your ability.

I cant quite understand why some of these stiries hadnt come out before, i.e the subs bench one against olympiakos. This actually shows a fair bity of control from the players at the club that this wasnt leaked before, unless the journos involved were just keeping it under their hat until the eventual sacking happened, but i'd have thought it would have been a better story at the time. Perhaps Moyes had some sway over the press and knew of the story.

I was interested in something i think it was Ogden said, that 2 midfielders who complained about lack of playing time were just told they could leave in January, who would that have been? Anderson had surely already gone no? Not very good way to instill confidence. Also interesting his comment that Moyes had slagged off Rio and another player to another manager...who then told the players involved. No wonder Rio was acting out so much...makes him seem slightly less of a knob for doing it...slightly. I wonder who the other was.

He was an absolute travesty for us. Dont really care if he was a nice guy, i dont actually think he was, regardless its not a job for a nice guy. How we could put ouyrselves in this mess i do not know. How can we put someone in charge without knowing his tactical and man management style??
 
SteveJ said:
Decent statement. However, there's virtually no mention of the players, and (perhaps) a pointed reference to his staff's loyalty. Telling stuff.
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Not like you to piss on anyone's parade man - albeit, a farewell parade...

Whats on yer mind me aul china?

You're blaming the players who hate him... which is all of them... and you've gone on a whiskey-driven campaign of horse-rapin again havent ya Steve?!

Feckin told you about that shit bro.... stick with the Shetlands - less hassle & no carrots!
 
SteveJ said:
Well, it's only my view, mate. So I could well be entirely mistaken. :)
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Sorry, I didn't mean it to be so aggressive :lol: Only reason I recon it might not be as you're saying is because he thanks the coaches in particular earlier, and then he makes another thank you to the "United staff." Don't know, it's not clear cut to me that he excluded the players. I think we're looking at ways to slag him off (not necessary you, but others). Poor guy is/has been through hell, I don't know why people like to kick him in while he is down.
 
I also think it's very telling he didn't mention the playing staff in his statement. He explicitly mentioned the "coaching staff", not playing staff. Also thanked Sir Alex Ferguson and the fans. Maybe I'm reading too much into it but appears as if the reports stating that the players never warmed to him are true.
 
Sixpence said:
What about the unprofessional way he got the job? Didn't ask permission of Everton before speaking to Ferguson behind their back most of the season did he. Saint Moyes been hard done to has he. Boo hoo.
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Managers are allowed to speak to each other. If anything, Ferguson was the one in the wrong.
 
TheGame said:
The original point was that it was still a great CL performance against them.
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They froze mate. I was very disappointed by all the teams in our group, I thought they'd play a lot better than they did. Instead it was a cake walk for us. That's no disrepect to Dave, he did well to be fair in the group stage.
 
Shark22 said:
His comments are nice, but they do also highlight how overwhelmed he has been throughout his entire tenure. A manager taking over from SAF shouldn't be 'proud' to get United to a CL quarter final, it should be an expectancy. That sounds spoiled, but we're one of the biggest clubs in the world at the end of the day.

I'm sorry for him, he was so far out of his depth, it wasn't funny.
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Could never imaging Pep or Mourinho to be proud of taking a team to the quarters. The opposite actually, I think they'd be disappointed at not getting further. That's the level of standards we need. As well intentioned as Moyes was, he was so far out of his depth.
 
scorgasm said:
I also think it's very telling he didn't mention the playing staff in his statement. He explicitly mentioned the "coaching staff", not playing staff. Also thanked Sir Alex Ferguson and the fans. Maybe I'm reading too much into it but appears as if the reports stating that the players never warmed to him are true.
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But later on in the statement he mentions "United staff"? Are players not staff of the club? And before you say he wasn't including players, why would he then repeat what he has already said? Just saying.
 
Red Hand Devil said:
You're blaming the players who hate him... which is all of them... and you've gone on a whiskey-driven campaign of horse-rapin again havent ya Steve?!

Feckin told you about that shit bro.... stick with the Shetlands - less hassle & no carrots!
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Busted. *cries a lot* :D
 
Roboc7 said:
What all of this does confirm is that sacking him now was the only option the club had and you get the impression that he only lasted this long because it would have been a lot more expensive to sack him if the owners couldn’t activate the performance clause. All these stories that are being written are what I expected to see over the summer if he had stayed in charge, as players left the club or even just went on holiday more and more information would have leaked out and we would have been starting next season in crisis.

I am not surprised that this is what was happening, this would happen at any other football club, people always fall out or blame other people if things aren’t going well, these players are multi millionaires, with bloated egos and a huge part of management is earning/demanding and maintaining their respect. You can argue over whether this is right or not but it doesn’t take away from the fact that if you aren’t able to do it the writing is on the wall, Moyes clearly fell short and it was probably a combination of his limitations and the void left by SAF that caused this. I don’t think he ever grasped the difference between managing United and Everton, it was the same staff, same training, same attitude, he was destined to fail from probably his first few weeks in charge and you could argue it might have been worth gambling on paying him off very early in his tenure as we might have been able to finish in the top 4.
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This is the root of all his problems and his pov is understandable because normally when you are appointed to a job you are inclined to think that it's your performance in your previous job that earned you that job . However United, through Fergie, appointed him mainly for who he was as a man not strictly for his his football accomplishments because if it was handled differently he wouldn't have made it to the interview stage . His mistake was in failing to recognise that he had to do things differently to what he had grown accustomed to just to have a fighting chance at surviving at this stage, rather than spend six weeks sunbathing in Florida he should have spent that period preparing himself mentally, intellectually and taken significant steps towards solving apparent issues in the first team .
His biggest mistake was in believing his bosses when they told him he'd get time no matter what . That was naive of him and millions of fans who bought into that, at this level you perform or you pay, millions of pounds are at stake .
 
LR7 said:
Could never imaging Pep or Mourinho to be proud of taking a team to the quarters. The opposite actually, I think they'd be disappointed at not getting further. That's the level of standards we need. As well intentioned as Moyes was, he was so far out of his depth.
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He was completely out of his depth. But some of the comments here are just plain horrible. There is no need to keep kicking a man once he is down and out. Not even got anything to do with United or being a true fan or anything, it's just human decency. It's easy being a keyboard warrior who is well out of the public limelight. But anyone who has failed at something they've dreamt of for a long time would have the decency to show some respect. It isn't easy. Nevermind in the eyes of millions of people.
 
rpitroda said:
But later on in the statement he mentions "United staff"? Are players not staff of the club? And before you say he wasn't including players, why would he then repeat what he has already said? Just saying.
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True, you're correct. I do think he could have explicitly said the playing staff and or players if he wanted to make that point. I think it was an obvious omission from him, but neither you and I are Moyes nor mind readers so unless he clarifies his relationship with the players (unlikely...) we won't know for some time.
 
Sixpence said:
Still banging on about rebuilding I see. We didn't need rebuilding, we just needed managing to a competent level and we'd have easily made the top 4.
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We need rebuilding for a title challenge though and that's what this clubs aim is, he couldn't get results whilst doing so and he never showed direction. Not everything is an excuse, he's just saying what his job was and admits he couldn't do it.

I feel sorry for Moyes as it was a dream job and its difficult to fail. Hope he does well elsewhere as he seems a decent bloke
 
What's with all this it's unfair how Moyes was sacked because he wasn't first to know. Media/internet said he'd been sacked or was getting sacked about a billion times this season. It was speculation and not confirmed by United. Basically, they got it right 1 out of 18373930 times.
 
david moyes can walk around with his head held high, a number of our players, staff and fans cant.
 
scorgasm said:
True, you're correct. I do think he could have explicitly said the playing staff and or players if he wanted to make that point. I think it was an obvious omission from him, but neither you and I are Moyes nor mind readers so unless he clarifies his relationship with the players (unlikely...) we won't know for some time.
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Agreed. But if he feels let down by the players, it's probably at least partly justified. Just like we feel let down by him, I guess. Anyway, apologies if I seemed aggressive. Just reading some of the posts still trying to get a last kick in at Moyes before the dust settles upsets me - not as a fan, but just as a human being. It's just awful.
 
One Night Only said:
What's with all this it's unfair how Moyes was sacked because he wasn't first to know. Media/internet said he'd been sacked or was getting sacked about a billion times this season. It was speculation and not confirmed by United. Basically, they got it right 1 out of 18373930 times.
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Nah, there is a difference. Monday it was clear it was happening. Any other time it was speculation.

Just like when Fergie was retiring, the night before it was very clear something was about to happen
 
SER19 said:
david moyes can walk around with his head held high, a number of our players, staff and fans cant.
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Man should be proud of himself. True winner unlike all the fecking players.
 
Was someone really ripping him for saying he was proud to have managed United? How's that small time, some people are just being pathetic assholes now. Any manager who left the club and didn't want to be sour about it(at least publicly) would have said the same.

And if he ever publishes a biography, I'd buy it just to read the chapter on his United career, his views on it should be interesting. Reading some of the stuff that's come out, respect or not, some players were absolute cnuts to him, like immature schoolyard bully levels of pettiness.
 
i really feel sorry for him, but he was out of his depth in every way here. even this statement isn't all that classy, trying to bang on about rebuilding.

i do wish he picks up from here, learns his lesson and goes on to become really successful, win the title with say Leverkusen/ Schalke or get a job like Munchengladbach and make them CL regulars
 
He's such a genuinely nice person, but he really was like a rabbit in front of headlights as the manager of Manchester United. I wish him nothing but success in the future and hope he goes abroad for his next job and comes to Old Trafford in the Champions League.
 
I get the sense that the players felt like they were in some sort of poorly matched arranged marraige with Moyes. And the more I read and hear about Moyes's tenure, the more it seems that he was in a very tricky spot. Seems like a locker room requires the manager to be the alpha dog. For someone like Mourinho that comes about through his past success. Moyes couldn't rely on this-and so had to stamp his authority in other ways.

The paradox it seems for Moyes is that the disillusionment among the players increased as Moyes introduced his training/tactics. Sounds like a pretty toxic dynamic. To me it just underscores something that was apparent all along-that he was never the right guy for the job.

A sad chapter that I'm glad is closed.
 
rpitroda said:
Agreed. But if he feels let down by the players, it's probably at least partly justified. Just like we feel let down by him, I guess. Anyway, apologies if I seemed aggressive. Just reading some of the posts still trying to get a last kick in at Moyes before the dust settles upsets me - not as a fan, but just as a human being. It's just awful.
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Absolutely, people shouldn't be insulting Moyes on a personal level. He tried his best, it wasn't good enough, we move on. One thing I am disappointed about is how it appears that club told certain journalists / outlets before they told Moyes himself. Not what I'd expect, unprofessional and small time from the club (if it's true anyway).
 
Good, classy statement, but then he probably had it written for him.
 
Sixpence said:
What about the unprofessional way he got the job? Didn't ask permission of Everton before speaking to Ferguson behind their back most of the season did he. Saint Moyes been hard done to has he. Boo hoo.
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I agree....

There is a post from an everton fan in the Newbies section basically explaining in detail why the Everton fans dislike Moyes now, probably one of the finer posts I've read on here on my short time here... well laid out and brilliant points raised...

Could one of the mods maybe copy / paste it here... it was under a thread called "why everton fans hate moyes"

Moyes seems to be one of these managers who constantly manages to avoid blame from the media by an large and gets lucky a lot also... for me he insulted the club in many ways during his short time here and I am still angry about how he spoke about the club, never mind the on field carry on lol
 
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