Oh yeah, I'm not at all disputing that.
Confirmed: Moyes sacked.
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Oh yeah, I'm not at all disputing that.
Still banging on about rebuilding I see. We didn't need rebuilding, we just needed managing to a competent level and we'd have easily made the top 4.
Said you that he is a bit of a cnut. We had a thank you David Moyes here, he didn't thank the players. Not even Fellaini for elbowing Zabaleta. Or Van Persie for scoring that hat trick which kept him on job for another 2 months
Harsh, I don't think that saying that means that. In the case of Moyes, yes, he always felt in awe of his job. Happy to just be there, not that he deserved it. But that is ultimately the reason of his downfall.
Well that's pretty natural, isn't it? And not exactl untrue - however inadequate Moyes was, the vast majority of the players have let the club down too.
I didn't think it could be that bad... did it?
-------------PPPLLLEEEAAASSSEEE can someone copy the text of what he has said? I can't see the pictures.-------------
Leverkusen are a good team, our result away to them was a good performance.
People say that his failure here has ruined his career but I'd argue the opposite.
He's had a chance to manage one of the most clubs in world football, has been exposed to unprecedented amounts of scrutiny, pressure and expectation to deliver. Yeah sure he failed miserably, but I'd expect him to take something from it all to his next (easier) job.
He's had a chance to manage one of the most clubs in world football, has been exposed to unprecedented amounts of scrutiny, pressure and expectation to deliver. Yeah sure he failed miserably, but I'd expect him to take something from it all to his next (easier) job.
So you'd have preferred him to be disrespectful and call us a shithouse of a club then? Even in death, the man can't do right for doing wrong with some of you.
Exactly.
Yeah reading the Daily Mail is tragic.
They completely froze against us. Sloppiness personified.
why thank the players? they let him down repeatedly. No matter his short commings in his deployment of the team they failed at the simple basics far too often. Passing, tackling, running have all been sub par all season and that has more to do with their own failings.
IMO the sacking was right and at the right time but i hold no ill feeling towards Moyes and will always think he got let down by the players who this season forgot which club they played for and let their standards slip.
IMO the sacking was right and at the right time but i hold no ill feeling towards Moyes and will always think he got let down by the players who this season forgot which club they played for and let their standards slip.
Here you go:
"To have been appointed as manager of Manchester United, one of the biggest football clubs in the world, was and remains something of which I will always be incredibly proud," Moyes said.
"Taking charge after such a long period of continuous stability and success at the club was inevitably going to be a significant challenge, but it was one which I relished and never had a second thought about taking on.
"The scale of the manager's job at United is immense, but I have never stepped away from hard work and the same applies to my coaching staff. I thank them for their dedication and loyalty throughout the last season.
"We were fully focused and committed to the process of the fundamental rebuilding that is required for the senior squad. This had to be achieved whilst delivering positive results in the Barclays Premier League and the Champions League. However, during this period of transition, performances and results have not been what Manchester United and its fans are used to or expect, and I both understand and share their frustration.
"In my short time at the club I have learnt what special places Old Trafford and Carrington are. I would like to thank the United staff for making me feel so welcome and part of the United family from my first day. And of course thank you to those fans who have supported me throughout the season. I wish you and the club all the best for the future.
"I have always believed that a manager never stops learning during his career and I know I will take invaluable experience from my time as United's manager. I remain proud to have led the team to the quarter finals of this year's Champions League and I remain grateful to Sir Alex Ferguson for believing in my ability and giving me the chance to manage Manchester United."
There are some people on here who keep digging the boot in.
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Proud to have been manager...thanks his & OT's staff...proud to have reached the CL QFs...slags off Cal.
Honestly, I wouldn't really think much about this anymore, and I think same would go for him as well. He was given the chance for the biggest job in the world, he didn't grow into it. End of story. At least he has come out full of respect for the club and the man who gave him the chance instead of pointing fingers to anyone. Let's give him the benefit of doubt there. The man needs a break from all this.
Here we go:
This season they have been diabolical.
You beat whats in front of you, we played well and were clinical. If we had a bit more of that, things would have been different.
They are 4 points off 3rd place, with Dortmund and Bayern in front of them, thats hardly diabolical.
Thanks everyone!
What is/are he/they on about now?
Quite damning how he doesn't mention the players. Underlines the way it ended I suppose.
I didn't expect him to mention the players for what it's worth.
I didn't expect him to mention the players for what it's worth.
They have sacked their coach though. Way before us.
"To have been appointed as manager of Manchester United, one of the biggest football clubs in the world, was and remains something of which I will always be incredibly proud," Moyes said.
"Taking charge after such a long period of continuous stability and success at the club was inevitably going to be a significant challenge, but it was one which I relished and never had a second thought about taking on.
"The scale of the manager's job at United is immense, but I have never stepped away from hard work and the same applies to my coaching staff. I thank them for their dedication and loyalty throughout the last season.
"We were fully focused and committed to the process of the fundamental rebuilding that is required for the senior squad. This had to be achieved whilst delivering positive results in the Barclays Premier League and the Champions League. However, during this period of transition, performances and results have not been what Manchester United and its fans are used to or expect, and I both understand and share their frustration.
"In my short time at the club I have learnt what special places Old Trafford and Carrington are. I would like to thank the United staff for making me feel so welcome and part of the United family from my first day. And of course thank you to those fans who have supported me throughout the season. I wish you and the club all the best for the future.
"I have always believed that a manager never stops learning during his career and I know I will take invaluable experience from my time as United's manager. I remain proud to have led the team to the quarter finals of this year's Champions League and I remain grateful to Sir Alex Ferguson for believing in my ability and giving me the chance to manage Manchester United.
Liverpool fans loved Hodgson after all. Oh wait
Yeah, I think so.
BTW, I've not offered an opinion in this thread as to why Moyes failed, only my opinion on his statement.
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Honestly? Just read what he said, and I think you're massively misunderstanding what he's said. United staff could equally include the players as much as it could exclude the players.
Honestly? Just read what he said, and I think you're massively misunderstanding what he's said. United staff could equally include the players as much as it could exclude the players.
Trust me, they've been awful this season. Had such a massive slump in form since January, Newcastle like. Dortmund have had a disaster of a season injury wise, they've had pretty much all of their defenders out for several weeks it's no shock that once their injuries eased off they leapt up the table.
That's because Dortmund have also been poor in the league this season. I've seen Leverkusen play a number of times and they have been a disaster.
At one point they went 9 games with no wins and about 3 draws.
Just checked, it was 8 losses, 1 draw.
The LMA's chief executive Richard Bevan has also added these words of his own:
"The LMA is very disappointed with the nature of David's departure from Manchester United and to read extensive reports in the press, confirming David's sacking, before David himself had been spoken to officially by the club.
"Throughout his time at United, David, as he always does, has conducted himself with integrity and professionalism, values that he believes in and that have been strongly associated with the club and its rich tradition. It is therefore sad to see the end of David's tenure at United being handled in an unprofessional manner."
"The LMA is very disappointed with the nature of David's departure from Manchester United and to read extensive reports in the press, confirming David's sacking, before David himself had been spoken to officially by the club.
"Throughout his time at United, David, as he always does, has conducted himself with integrity and professionalism, values that he believes in and that have been strongly associated with the club and its rich tradition. It is therefore sad to see the end of David's tenure at United being handled in an unprofessional manner."
Basically, the LMA believe United acted in an unprofessional manner with how they handled sacking Moyes. Their argument is based on the fact that the newspapers knew before Moyes. Hard to argue against, disgusting if the club briefed the press before telling Moyes. I just assumed there would have been a discussion between Moyes and the club and after this the press being briefed. Doesn't appear that's the way it worked though.
To be fair it was unprofessional that he heard he was getting the boot off the internet.
The original point was that it was still a great CL performance against them.
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