Cole Palmer | Chelsea Player

Most of the Brazilians whose technique is lauded (e.g. Ronaldinho) are not short or diminutive. This is not about England v Spain, it was pushed that way by someone in this thread who has got a bee in his bonnet about Barca.

For example, do you think Palmer's technical ability is comparable to Neymar's?
Yes. By asking that question you've literally just proved that (eg indirectly compared them).
 
Short diminutive players are way too overrated for their "technique" by Football fans.


Technique isn't just close control and body feints in tight spaces.


Technique includes touch, shooting, passing, crossing too. English players like Beckham and Trent excel in many of these technical attributes, way more than the Spanish technicians.
Agreed. I think for some it comes down to what skillset they prioritize - that them becomes what they narrowly define as 'technique' while other skills, all of which involve technique too, get ignored because it doesn't fit their definition.

Players that demonstrate amazing dribbling ability as well as the ability to manipulate the ball in tight spaces are usually great to watch but that doesn't make them the first and last word in footballing technique.
 
I am curious how Txiki and Pep’s seemingly planned jumping off ship changes perspective on Palmer being allowed to leave City.

The “he wanted playing time and we don’t make people stay” thing made sense. But after realizing they were getting to see him every day in training, and then let him leave for Dewesbury-Hall money … and they probably knew they were leaving….did they just not care?
 
Yes. By asking that question you've literally just proved that (eg indirectly compared them).

That’s not how you interpret a sentence.

“Is Godzillas ability to feck up your day comparable to standing in sh1t on your way to work?”

You don’t interpret the literal meaning of the words. You answer on the context.
 
That’s not how you interpret a sentence.

“Is Godzillas ability to feck up your day comparable to standing in sh1t on your way to work?”

You don’t interpret the literal meaning of the words. You answer on the context.
Man said they weren't comparable and in doing so inadvertently compared them. Sorry, but that's the truth.
 
By that logic my footballing skills were comparable to George Best.
They literally are. Just very, very unfavourably so.

It's also quite obvious that @UnrelatedPsuedo didn't mean to be taken literally. Language only really work when two (or more) people are trying to understand one another, and it's clear that nobody is actually trying to understand them.
 
By that logic my footballing skills were comparable to George Best.

They literally are. Just very, very unfavourably so.

It's also quite obvious that @UnrelatedPsuedo didn't mean to be taken literally. Language only really work when two (or more) people are trying to understand one another, and it's clear that nobody is actually trying to understand them.
Both correct!
 
"On a moral level, do you think Hitler and granite are comparable?"

"Yes. By asking that question you've literally just proved that."
 
We should Offer Chelsea a swap of Bruno and Rashford for Palmer. Most clubs would laugh at even considering the idea but maybe, just maybe……Chelsea have one more crazy transfer decision left in them
 
Another man of the match performance today.

His pass to Neto for the first goal today was second to none.
Seems to be capable of top performances on a regular basis.
Could even be the best player in the league.
Vision, creative passing, energy, clinical. Best I've seen at Chelsea since Hazard. Give him time and he could be better.
 
Another man of the match performance today.

His pass to Neto for the first goal today was second to none.
Seems to be capable of top performances on a regular basis.
Could even be the best player in the league.
Vision, creative passing, energy, clinical. Best I've seen at Chelsea since Hazard. Give him time and he could be better.
Yeah, never thought I'd say it considering how unfinished he looked for us compared to for example Foden, but credit to Chelsea. This could be De Bruyne in reverse
 
Best pass of the season so far by Gianfrancole Palmer.

 
What was the defending for his goal, proper Lindelof tribute stuff, back off, back off, let him run 2 meters into the box and still have 5/6 meters of space to shoot, and oh and block the keepers view as you back off.
 
Best pass of the season so far by Gianfrancole Palmer.



Interestingly enough, when they brought up the Zola comparisons to him, his answer was that he didn't know him and never watched him but that Zola must have been a great player because he saw him as an "icon" in the video game, FIFA:rolleyes:
 
Amazing pass and the way he took his goal so early was brilliant. I don't think anyone expected him to shoot so early.
I'm very surprised he signed that 20 year contract though. It's a bit mental for such a young player.
 
We should Offer Chelsea a swap of Bruno and Rashford for Palmer. Most clubs would laugh at even considering the idea but maybe, just maybe……Chelsea have one more crazy transfer decision left in them
Why on earth would they agree? Palmer is better than Bruno and no serious club should waste time and money on Rashford. Chelsea aren’t well run but nobody is that badly run!
 
Amazing pass and the way he took his goal so early was brilliant. I don't think anyone expected him to shoot so early.
I'm very surprised he signed that 20 year contract though. It's a bit mental for such a young player.

For the player, depending on how you look at things, it makes a lot of sense. It’s essentially the ultimate job security. This is with the caveat that there is room for his wages to continue increasing while at Chelsea, which our resident Chelsea fans have said that is how these 30 year contracts they hand out are structured.

He’s playing at a top club in London. A club that wins stuff and has aspirations to keep on winning things. He’s fast becoming their main man. He’s on a good wage that is likely to continue going up, so even if he gets a catastrophic injury that details his career and he loses most of his ability, he still gets that wage (And could resist the club trying to force him out in that situation).

The only downside there is is if he wants to go to another club, but he’s already been at City and is now at Chelsea, and as an Englishman there’s no real guarantee he would even want to leave conditions like that at an English club to go abroad, so from his end it makes a lot of sense.

I would say from the player’s end, a contract like that makes no sense for a player like Haaland who has his eyes set on playing for multiple clubs, but maybe Palmer is satisfied there?
 
Interestingly enough, when they brought up the Zola comparisons to him, his answer was that he didn't know him and never watched him but that Zola must have been a great player because he saw him as an "icon" in the video game, FIFA:rolleyes:
I think that’s fair, no? Why would Palmer have seen Zola play?
 
Why on earth would they agree? Palmer is better than Bruno and no serious club should waste time and money on Rashford. Chelsea aren’t well run but nobody is that badly run
I guess I need to make my jokes funnier and more obvious. My bad
 
Amazing pass and the way he took his goal so early was brilliant. I don't think anyone expected him to shoot so early.
I'm very surprised he signed that 20 year contract though. It's a bit mental for such a young player.

I imagine there are ways to get out of his contract after a few seasons, wouldn't make sense for player the player camp if that wasn't the case. The long duration is just an accounting trick that Boehly seemingly tries to utilize to the fullest. If more clubs follow their lead, I guess UEFA will adapt the rules on that as well.
 
He has to now be consisered the most effective player in the league. What amazes me most about him is his game intelligence and how he can be so decisive at 22 years old. This is even more surprising when you consider he wasn't a guy playing mens football from 16-19 like a Bellingham, Rooney, Mbappe etc.
I imagine there are ways to get out of his contract after a few seasons, wouldn't make sense for player the player camp if that wasn't the case. The long duration is just an accounting trick that Boehly seemingly tries to utilize to the fullest. If more clubs follow their lead, I guess UEFA will adapt the rules on that as well.

It isn't an accounting trick as that has already been dealt with by UEFA. As for the contract, the outline above about how it allows him job security and wage increases makes sense. However, I imagine the part Chelsea get out of it is assurance he isn't going anywhere and this is pretty much as close to the US system in football where the teams have a lot more power.

Additionally, if anyone has seen Cole Palmer do an interview, the likelihood of him considering moving to Spain or Germany seems a bit remote.
 
I think that’s fair, no? Why would Palmer have seen Zola play?
One of the few honest ones.

Not just with footballers but also supporters. I've meet a lot of early 00s born people travelling who act like they remember in the moment Jose 1.0 at Chelsea, peak Henry, Ronaldinho at Barca etc
 
He has to now be consisered the most effective player in the league. What amazes me most about him is his game intelligence and how he can be so decisive at 22 years old. This is even more surprising when you consider he wasn't a guy playing mens football from 16-19 like a Bellingham, Rooney, Mbappe etc.


It isn't an accounting trick as that has already been dealt with by UEFA. As for the contract, the outline above about how it allows him job security and wage increases makes sense. However, I imagine the part Chelsea get out of it is assurance he isn't going anywhere and this is pretty much as close to the US system in football where the teams have a lot more power.

Additionally, if anyone has seen Cole Palmer do an interview, the likelihood of him considering moving to Spain or Germany seems a bit remote.

What do you mean with "has already been dealt with"? Must have passed me by.
 
He has to now be consisered the most effective player in the league. What amazes me most about him is his game intelligence and how he can be so decisive at 22 years old. This is even more surprising when you consider he wasn't a guy playing mens football from 16-19 like a Bellingham, Rooney, Mbappe etc.


It isn't an accounting trick as that has already been dealt with by UEFA. As for the contract, the outline above about how it allows him job security and wage increases makes sense. However, I imagine the part Chelsea get out of it is assurance he isn't going anywhere and this is pretty much as close to the US system in football where the teams have a lot more power.

Additionally, if anyone has seen Cole Palmer do an interview, the likelihood of him considering moving to Spain or Germany seems a bit remote.
Mo Salah and Erling Haaland say hello.

Also, for him to consider a move to Spain or Germany, those clubs have to actually want him, and I haven't heard any rumours of Madrid or Barca desperately wanting to add him to their ranks. Probably would need to keep up his form for longer for that to happen (whether he goes or not).
 
Interestingly enough, when they brought up the Zola comparisons to him, his answer was that he didn't know him and never watched him but that Zola must have been a great player because he saw him as an "icon" in the video game, FIFA:rolleyes:

Yeah, some answer the utter plank. At least put some effort in to learning some of your current clubs history.