Cole Palmer | Chelsea Player

Salah is a more lethal finisher and as a hugely experienced 30+ year old is definitely better in the very biggest matches against the top team right now.

But in terms of all around game I don’t think there’s anyone better in the league currently.
 
I think he’s brilliant. Really lovely footballer and clearly enjoys the pressure and the game.
 
Mb194dc said:
He asked to leave and we could offer guaranteed minutes because Nkunku was out all season. Pep never holds players who ask to go pretty much.

Ridiculous footballer and Panenka v Spurs shows like Hazard he gets the club I think.
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He asked to go on loan. Pep is the one who told him he couldn't leave unless it was on a permanent deal.
 
Absolutely quality player. Man City must have sleepless nights having sold him because they already had players in his position who are now not even half the player he is. Selling him made no sense when they went and bought Savinho and Doku later. He’s still better than Silva and Grealish too
 
City made such a huge mistake letting him go. The reason he asked to leave was because he wasn’t going to get regular minutes as a starter, and he knew his worth. He wanted to be a star, starting all the biggest games. He went to Chelsea and immediately became that, which is just a huge mistake on City’s part. He didn’t even need a season or two to get up to speed. He arrived ready. I heard he asked to leave on loan, and City insisted on an outright sale. Makes the whole thing even worse from City’s point of view.

One of the best players in the league right now. Homegrown too, so even more valuable. What’s exciting for Chelsea fans is that he can get even better. He’s still so young.
 
His numbers since joining Chelsea is something you see in Football Manager, absolutely insane. You hardly see him have a game where he misses pure sitters, closest to that was Salah when he joined Liverpool and had that insane season.
 
Him leaving city was the best thing he could do for his career, if he had stayed at city and played under pep, he probably would have had his individuality drilled out of him and become just another system player
 
So glad he left. Him and Salah are clearly the best two players in the league.
 
Lee565 said:
Him leaving city was the best thing he could do for his career, if he had stayed at city and played under pep, he probably would have had his individuality drilled out of him and become just another system player
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Yep. Pep would've definitely done the ol' 'it puts the lotion on the skin, or it gets the hose again' in training.
 
Lee565 said:
Him leaving city was the best thing he could do for his career, if he had stayed at city and played under pep, he probably would have had his individuality drilled out of him and become just another system player
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That’s exactly it. He’d have gotten the Grealish treatment.
 
Lee565 said:
Him leaving city was the best thing he could do for his career, if he had stayed at city and played under pep, he probably would have had his individuality drilled out of him and become just another system player
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Possibly true. I certainly don't think he'd be exactly the same as he is at Chelsea.
 
Lee565 said:
Him leaving city was the best thing he could do for his career, if he had stayed at city and played under pep, he probably would have had his individuality drilled out of him and become just another system player
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Like De Bruyne?
 
giorno said:
Like De Bruyne?
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De Bruyne didn't play his formative years under Pep though. By the time Guardiola arrived he was already 25 and fully established himself over a few Bundesliga seasons and one year at City under Pellegrini.
 
Rnd898 said:
De Bruyne didn't play his formative years under Pep though. By the time Guardiola arrived he was already 25 and fully established himself over a few Bundesliga seasons and one year at City under Pellegrini.
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so did Grealish yet people accuse Pep of ruining him, Pep blamers move goal posts as they suits him yet some of the best and most creative players in last two decades played and thrived under his guidence.
 
Rnd898 said:
De Bruyne didn't play his formative years under Pep though. By the time Guardiola arrived he was already 25 and fully established himself over a few Bundesliga seasons and one year at City under Pellegrini.
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Neither did Grealish. Palmer is a special player. Maybe Guardiola really was too stupid to see it and would have tried to pigeonhole him into a specific type and role, but I doubt it
 
Miles better than Saka, Grealish and Bellingham. Best English talent since Rooney. Maybe it will align in the future that he ends up here. It's weird a manc kid doing the business for Chelsea.
 
Offside said:
Miles better than Saka, Grealish and Bellingham. Best English talent since Rooney. Maybe it will align in the future that he ends up here. It's weird a manc kid doing the business for Chelsea.
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He’s not miles better than Saka or Bellingham.
 
giorno said:
Neither did Grealish. Palmer is a special player. Maybe Guardiola really was too stupid to see it and would have tried to pigeonhole him into a specific type and role, but I doubt it
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Quelle surprise… Guardiola being called stupid by RM fan
 
He’s great to watch - he just seems to glide pretty effortlessly round the pitch always managing to pick up little pockets of space.

I think he’s got a lot more freedom at Chelsea than he would have had at City - he’s the star man all the other players know it.
 
City had some difficulties regarding their rooster after winning everything.
All within the context of the Trial and the unknown consequences of it.

Mature players reaching extreme mature stage.
Young players constantly rotating and demanding more playing time.
Very young new players arriving and others from the academy.

In the meantime fellas like Foden that was need to take the step further to start his "Consolidate Mature Group stage" has stagnate so far, Kevin fell with another injury, Erling with his ups and lows, they've lost their Jack for all trades in Alvarez, many of the new young guns still didn't entirely click, the academy ones are having their adaptation.

So far some of the new young bets look less than what he already had in Palmer, yet at the same time if Palmer, or Alvarez or whomever wanted to go, they'll go.

And let's remind that Palmer it's not precisly obedient, without being Zlatan or Etoo in your face Ego and that when he started (and even till today) he has his fair share of bad decisions within matches or even periods, yet so far he has a knack for numbers that will overcome some of his not that great tendencies, he has almost always some special moment in his pocket even in an overall bad perfomance from him.
In City he shown more of the bad stuff than the second, so even becoming a huge player, he certainly wasn't in the more collective, generous and a bit less individualistic Foden type, talents involved aside. Yet what it's odd about it, it's to buy someone like Doku, that looks a lot more like an Sterling and over the top individualistic than Palmer or Foden. Estevao "Messinho" the one that Chelsea went after , looked more like a Pep player and while having lots of dribbling in him (yet this kid looks very lightweight, like Echeverri that might arrive soon to City or be loan).
 
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Offside said:
Miles better than Saka, Grealish and Bellingham. Best English talent since Rooney. Maybe it will align in the future that he ends up here. It's weird a manc kid doing the business for Chelsea.
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He’s got another 9 years on his contract. I’m not sure what could possibly happen for us to be willing to sell him to Man United.
 
Orc said:
He’s got another 9 years on his contract. I’m not sure what could possibly happen for us to be willing to sell him to Man United.
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Wait what 9 years? What kind of contract is he on? Is that even allowed?
 
Orc said:
He’s got another 9 years on his contract. I’m not sure what could possibly happen for us to be willing to sell him to Man United.
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Could happen even if it seems implausible now. Definitely naive to think he’s going to be there for 9 years.
 
Trex said:
Lampard eventually played at City.
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Yeah, when he was on his very last legs.
Offside said:
Could happen even if it seems implausible now. Definitely naive to think he’s going to be there for 9 years.
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If he eventually leaves it won’t be to another PL club it’ll be to Real Madrid or Barca I guess if they get their financial situation back on solid ground.

He continues to have this sort of production and steadily improves for another 2-3 seasons he’ll be worth what, £150m? More? In an era where CM’s and a player like Grealish go for £100m how much would a top attacking player in his mid 20’s and who is English be worth?

United aren’t shelling out that kind of cash.
 
Offside said:
Could happen even if it seems implausible now. Definitely naive to think he’s going to be there for 9 years.
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He's going to be there for the next decade unless Real Madrid come knocking.
 
Righteous Steps said:
He’s not miles better than Saka or Bellingham.
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I agree. Palmer is not miles better than Saka or Bellingham, light years is far more accurate. That said, why don't clubs man-mark him like Curtis Jones did for Liverpool? Palmer had one shot which cleared the bar in that recent encounter which was his only contribution. The tactic worked for Liverpool, why don't other teams try it?
 
Bartondale said:
I agree. Palmer is not miles better than Saka or Bellingham, light years is far more accurate. That said, why don't clubs man-mark him like Curtis Jones did for Liverpool? Palmer had one shot which cleared the bar in that recent encounter which was his only contribution. The tactic worked for Liverpool, why don't other teams try it?
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It's because we were playing with Palmer in the left half space and Gusto in the right. Gusto isn't enough of a threat in the final third so we weren't punishing teams for sending extra players at Palmer.

With Caicedo at right back and Enzo back in the team, we have much better balance in the final third. 3rd goal against Spurs was the perfect illustration of this - Palmer drew 5 defenders towards him, leaving Enzo and Sancho 2v1 at the far post in the box.
 
Offside said:
Could happen even if it seems implausible now. Definitely naive to think he’s going to be there for 9 years.
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Even if he leaves, you'll have to significantly improve from what we've seen now (or the last 11 years for that matter) to even be an outsider let alone be his preffered destination.
 
We need to find another Palmer, not pretend that we can buy the actual one as it clearly won't happen. These players seem to always evade us as we prefer to go after washed, ageing talent.
 
Best player in the world right now in my opinion alongside Vini.

In the right system, combination of him, Saka and Bellingham is going to be a handful. If they play Watkins instead of Kane, then all the ingredients are there.
 
Tallis said:
Best player in the world right now in my opinion alongside Vini.

In the right system, combination of him, Saka and Bellingham is going to be a handful. If they play Watkins instead of Kane, then all the ingredients are there.
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Good thing is I think he'll gel better with Saka and Bellingham than Foden will
 
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