Doubt Wilcox survives either
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Doubt Wilcox survives either
Based on….?
Why? Barrada and him presumably already have a working relationship from City
His boss was just sacked and the next one will want his own man?
Owners that failed miserably at Nice and Lausanne continue the fiesta at Manchester United.
Who could have possibly foreseen this?
Yep, it was there for all to see.
He's Berrada's guy.
Think they’re totally independent of each other.
He's a Berrada guy. Don't see it.
They couldn't be more different. One is a ruthless businessman that goes through days 24/7, while the others are spoilt brats who didn't earn anything and have everything because of other people. Not saying Ratcliffe is great just that their lives, approach and thinking couldn't be more different. A bit worrying combination though.
Brailsford reportedly involved with recruitment is also a strange decision.
Structure around other clubs seems to resemble a process where the scouts reports are digressed to the DOF and they make the decision similar to David Gill with Sir Alex.
The CEO making a decision on the manager is permissible but all three pioneering recruitment is an issue.
I actually think United's summer recruitment was decent with the exception of Zirkzee where the club should have opted for an out and out striker.
It's not exactly rocket science when assessing the issues with this team, it's a toothless attack.
300 - 350 million needs to be spent across the forward line including right / left sided attackers and a striker possibly even two.
Structure around other clubs seems to resemble a process where the scouts reports are digressed to the DOF and they make the decision similar to David Gill with Sir Alex.
The CEO making a decision on the manager is permissible but all three pioneering recruitment is an issue.
I actually think United's summer recruitment was decent with the exception of Zirkzee where the club should have opted for an out and out striker.
It's not exactly rocket science when assessing the issues with this team, it's a toothless attack.
300 - 350 million needs to be spent across the forward line including right / left sided attackers and a striker possibly even two.
Yep
I've been critical of INEOS, particularly in the Ashworth thread but as others have said it is important to recognise that putting together a leadership team quickly, starting at different times while a lot is changing at the club is no doubt difficult. It was always going to be a tricky summer with the way our season went, Berrada and Ashworth joining, while Blanc, Wilcox and others were leading.
I don't think it excuses everything but it would be a big ask for them to get everything right in one summer.
It's not a good start for them and when you look at their other teams, the optics aren't good but they will need a few more years before we can say either these were the early signs that they don't know what they were doing or the first year was just a turbulent early spell.
I don't think it excuses everything but it would be a big ask for them to get everything right in one summer.
It's not a good start for them and when you look at their other teams, the optics aren't good but they will need a few more years before we can say either these were the early signs that they don't know what they were doing or the first year was just a turbulent early spell.
He was heavily involved too in the retention of ETH, needs to go too for it...terrible decision.
Kept Glazers in club, wrong decision with Erik, wrong decision with hiring Dof, sacked 250 people.
Yeah, doing just fine so far.
Yeah, doing just fine so far.
Lads this is an utter shitshow. Ineos / Jim has come in and managed to alienate the fans and staff by hiking prices, redundancies for the tea ladies and away ticket handlers then equally make a mess of transfers. All in a few months, kudos for them.
Ya, they are putting the Manchester back in Manchester United alright. Bunch of disconnected corporate jockies that don’t give a rat arse.
Oh but look at the shinny shinny new stadium plans….they haven’t a clue or care in the world.
Anything involving Ineos here, with or without Glazers still leaching, is doomed.
Ya, they are putting the Manchester back in Manchester United alright. Bunch of disconnected corporate jockies that don’t give a rat arse.
Oh but look at the shinny shinny new stadium plans….they haven’t a clue or care in the world.
Anything involving Ineos here, with or without Glazers still leaching, is doomed.
What have they fone that was really bad?
Didn’t he want him out if the rumors are to be believed?
I heard this too. He even forced ETH to change formation.
Most of the rumours were saying that Wilcox was the main one pushing for ETH to be sacked in the summer. He just got overruled.
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I don’t know if there is one particularly terrible thing, more an accumulation of negative stories. Redundancies, ticket prices, ETH, now Ashworth. I’m sure there’s more I can’t recall at the moment. It’s not creating a picture of focus or a coherent plan moving forwards. Our league position is atrocious, the football is not much better and all we’re being fed is the usual it will take time bs - guess what uncle Jim, get on with it! The sooner you do the sooner we will improve.
Sounds like he was the odd one out and what’s he really done anyway? No loss.
Cutting Fergie's stipend too. I bet the old gaffer is having a chuckle to himself about all this.
No reports suggested he was the one that was pushing to sack him. The decision to keep ten Hag was made by Ratcliffe and Brailsford.
What have Brailsford, Barrada and Wilcox done?
The former’s achievements don’t even seem to be in football.
The amount of money his horses are winning for him will replace that money.
Yep, his role is for the big picture decisions and reportedly wanted different direction to the CEO and owners so not really viable
Ticket prices reportedly hadnt risen in 11 years. Utd had 250 more staff than City and the highest staff in the Premier. Some shedding was needed to stay competent. Utd were so close to FFP and a points deduction, something had to give. Getting as much money as possible so they can give RA a transfer window to buy new players. Fans need to realise you cant have it both ways. Look at Arsenal and how much they pay to see perrenial failure to win anything. Everyone has been moaning at Ineos and the real culprits; the parasites, its all gone quiet on.
If it was 3/4 years in the future and we were in the same boat as now, I could understand, or if you are happy to plod along 6th to 8th each season, then the way it was run was fine, but Ineos havent even been in a season yet and mistakes, teething troubles, injustices, however you want to look at it, are better getting over with at the start. We have a new manager who at least has identified the problems with certain players and not sweeping them under the rug.
Lets see where we are at least by the summer before we get the lynch mob after every incident.
If it was 3/4 years in the future and we were in the same boat as now, I could understand, or if you are happy to plod along 6th to 8th each season, then the way it was run was fine, but Ineos havent even been in a season yet and mistakes, teething troubles, injustices, however you want to look at it, are better getting over with at the start. We have a new manager who at least has identified the problems with certain players and not sweeping them under the rug.
Lets see where we are at least by the summer before we get the lynch mob after every incident.
Owners that failed miserably at Nice and Lausanne continue the fiesta at Manchester United.
Who could have possibly foreseen this?
Damn you leeches for pricing out other full sale options apart from one photo sheikh
I am not sure how this Ineos/ Glazers ownership will work. Glazers, with all their flaws, run the club in a way that they were being quiet and not being impulsive.
Ineos are every day in media, calling out club (so Glazers) for past mistakes, saying that club is mediocre and hiring and sacking people. All that as minority owners.
What is even Glazers role now? Ineos decided to sack non football people, raise ticket prices, making stadium plans.....what Glazers do, ffs?
Ineos are every day in media, calling out club (so Glazers) for past mistakes, saying that club is mediocre and hiring and sacking people. All that as minority owners.
What is even Glazers role now? Ineos decided to sack non football people, raise ticket prices, making stadium plans.....what Glazers do, ffs?
The jury is out on Ineos as competent owners. The track record with other clubs is not great and so far, they managed to make a mess of EtH’s sacking timing, and then spent months publicly chasing Ashworth only to fire him in 5 months time. Doesn’t inspire much confidence.
The Glazers just kept the same people in charge irrespective of performance and promoted from within despite everyone being part of failure after failure.
We’ve now gone to the opposite where you have lots of people with ambition and wanting to make changes, new appointments left, right and centre. I think it’s entirely plausible there has been a bit of a power struggle over who to replace ETH with and this is the result. INEOS may well be useless but not everything they touched was going to turn to gold either.
The club was and is n such a poor state on and off the pitch that there is plenty more turnover and change to come.
Oh for God’s sake. Hope that the replacement is good.
Brailsford is one of those guys who no one really knows what he does.
When it's described it sounds like vague corpo rhetoric.
"ah I see.......so what does he do again?"
When it's described it sounds like vague corpo rhetoric.
"ah I see.......so what does he do again?"
"Wasn't making enough cuts to the football department as part of a wide-ranging economic drive by INEOS".
So there we have it. Ornstein hinted at the same in his interview.
feck.
So there we have it. Ornstein hinted at the same in his interview.
feck.
Wish the Glazers had just sold to the Qataris, at least they would throw money at the problem correctly. People knock Chelsea & City, but the only difference is we’ve spunked over >£1b for sweet FA
So in other words too skint to appoint a proper replacement for Ashworth then. Ratcliffe definitely has alienated the fanbase by hiking ticket prices and sacking staff too.
Crikey.
Picking money and out of the heat. It is perfect for them. They had zero interest before except braging rights, so they probably couldn't believe they luck to struck such deal.