Club ownership | Senior management team talk

Sounds like there is recognition amongst the hierarchy that the squad isn’t good enough, which is promising at least.
They were decent in getting rid this summer. There is hope it works again next year and that we buy top talent again
 
Ironically, its this mentality that probably caused him to retain ETH after the FA Cup and invest further in an ETH squad that exacerbated his original point; ultimately leading to a sacking.
Zirkzee aside, I’d say we had a good window.

Yoro
De Ligt
Ugarte (has played and excelled under Amorim)
Mazraoui

Zirkzee.

I reckon thats going to be the split of good vs bad signings given time and an 80% hit rate any club would take. If you look at our departures there isn’t a single player that would make us stronger now. Possibly McTominay as a squad player but many would argue against that suggestion.
 
Zirkzee aside, I’d say we had a good window.

Yoro
De Ligt
Ugarte (has played and excelled under Amorim)
Mazraoui

Zirkzee.

I reckon thats going to be the split of good vs bad signings given time and an 80% hit rate any club would take. If you look at our departures there isn’t a single player that would make us stronger now. Possibly McTominay as a squad player but many would argue against that suggestion.


He's clearly angry, enough to do something meaningful about it. That makes for a nice change.
 
Zirkzee aside, I’d say we had a good window.
But that's not the point, is it? The point is that it was a misconception that just improving the squad would improve things and that EtH could be the one to improve the team. But as it turns out, EtH isn't a Verstappen, to stay in the used metaphor.
 
But that's not the point, is it? The point is that it was a misconception that just improving the squad would improve things and that EtH could be the one to improve the team. But as it turns out, EtH isn't a Verstappen, to stay in the used metaphor.
I was replying to Raoul not SJR. Raoul said our transfers over the summer have exacerbated SJRs point about the squad and I disagree with that. I think Zirkzee aside we have improved the squad over the summer with 4 good players coming in and plenty of poor players going out.
 
Zero, it's one thing being snide with a manager who you can pull the rug from but the owner? Doesn't happen.
It will be made known that certain players were left bemused by the owner comments as that is not something that Glazers did publicly. But it will be said after those players leave United. Guaranteed.
 
Deserves a caption. what did Ferguson say to Jim today.?

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Sounds like there is recognition amongst the hierarchy that the squad isn’t good enough, which is promising at least.
If the squad aren't good enough, why on Earth have these people sanctioned the spending of c. £600M on these players?
You can't spend that amount of money and then moan that the squad aren't good enough.
 
If the squad aren't good enough, why on Earth have these people sanctioned the spending of c. £600M on these players?
You can't spend that amount of money and then moan that the squad aren't good enough.
INEOS aren’t responsible for all of that amount, having only this summer under their belt, and the squad not being good enough isn’t entirely down to the players Erik bought in - we have long standing squad issues.
 
INEOS aren’t responsible for all of that amount, having only this summer under their belt, and the squad not being good enough isn’t entirely down to the players Erik bought in - we have long standing squad issues.
It staggers me that this point has to be made again and again and again.
 
That story about the disabled group funding is sickening. I get austerity measures but surely there are better ways to save 20K. That's not even 20% of what the likes of Luke Shaw and Antony earns in a week. Hell, I bet a lot of the executives working in the club earns at least 3x as much as that annually.

It's disgusting how they're nickeling and diming the "smaller" people in the club but the ones who have been failing out there for years are earning big sums of money in wages and dividends.
 
The club's wage bill was only 10% lower than the previous year quarter. Which is surprising as we laid off a lot of people and got rid of a lot players. Our players reportedly had a 25% reduction clause in their wages for when we don't make the champions league, so I'm not sure why our wage bill is only down 10%. Anyone better informed able to shed light on that?
 
The club's wage bill was only 10% lower than the previous year quarter. Which is surprising as we laid off a lot of people and got rid of a lot players. Our players reportedly had a 25% reduction clause in their wages for when we don't make the champions league, so I'm not sure why our wage bill is only down 10%. Anyone better informed able to shed light on that?

Where exactly are you comparing these details from? Can you link and point out where the figures are?
 

Thanks. £800,000 per week off the wage bill is still pretty considerable.

I don't about how not qualifying for CL affects things. Is that meant to be a percentage cut to all year round base wages or would it only affect a certain quarter etc. Do we even know with any certainty how that works? I'd be expect these days the agents of our players wouldn't be pushing for putting a large stake of their client's earnings into whether we qualify fot the CL or not so it might be that it doesn't change much anymore.
 
Thanks. £800,000 per week off the wage bill is still pretty considerable.

I don't about how not qualifying for CL affects things. Is that meant to be a percentage cut to all year round base wages or would it only affect a certain quarter etc. Do we even know with any certainty how that works? I'd be expect these days the agents of our players wouldn't be pushing for putting a large stake of their client's earnings into whether we qualify fot the CL or not so it might be that it doesn't change much anymore.
It's meant to affect all year around. It's widely reported and we saw dips in wages similarly in years we've missed out on qualification before, that's why it's strange that after we've laid off that many staff and shifted so many players that the dip is in line with previous years when we've missed out of CL qualification.

This should highlight just how widely off the mark people like the swedish rumble were with their ridiculous wage reduction predictions.
 
Not sure of the credibility but surprised. I’m sure 100% of fans are not happy with some of the cost cutting measures that have affected staff and reduced funding or raising ticket prices. But as a whole the running of the club has been pretty good so far.
 
Not sure of the credibility but surprised. I’m sure 100% of fans are not happy with some of the cost cutting measures that have affected staff and reduced funding or raising ticket prices. But as a whole the running of the club has been pretty good so far.

I'm not saying your wrong or right, I don't know. But what are ineos doing that gives you the idea that they're running the club pretty good so far?

Just to be clear, it's not a trap question, I'm simply looking to learn, as I'm personally on the fence on how the clubs being run