City and Financial Doping | Charged by PL with numerous FFP breaches | Hearing begins 16th September 2024
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Barca shills disappear and City ones pop up. Never could have imagined a football forum to be seen as a legitimate target for troll farms.
How?
Probably getting prime real estate on the cheap and not investing in the City.
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I don't see how this is taking money out? They have put in money to build houses.
On the cheap? Helping finance these houses is investing though.
I think the point is they were essentially "given" public land (which has value) and remaining the leaseholder and majority shareholder of the joint venture.
Pay next to zero tax as well. There’s some report where it shows all their shell companies in Jersey and they paid like 4K
Isn't that normally how it happens with the council?
Yes, they got large parts of land at a fraction of their worth comparing to land nearby, setting up development fund and companies residing in tax havens (money out, but not back in) and a complete lack of transparency after the original deal was made public to giant fanfare. This is not unusual when it comes to rich entities dealing with local gullible decision makers.
They normally put plots up for open auction then assess bids. Probably won’t surprise you they held a closed auction for these plots.
What, giving land away at a fraction of the price on unusually long leases and also giving up control to companies registered in tax havens?
Can you give a single example of this happening before? (If its normal youll be able to find hundreds of examples).
Land is given free. They invest building materials and construction costs then own substantial wealth and influence over council. Offshore entity so not paying tax in the UK for public land gifted for free.
That's not what I replied to, but councils usually sell for lower than market values though. No idea how much under market value this is though.
That's the point. There's no transparency. The fact it's registered in an offshore financial centre indicates that the opaque nature of the dealings is probably deliberate.
Abu Dhabi have no actual interest in gentrifying Manchester or property development. It is merely about intertwining their tentacles into as many areas of the City as possible, so as to make removing them post 115 charges as difficult as possible without leaving egg on the face of as many public institutions as possible.
Yea things have to be fully transparent, needs to be law.
We need to give the benefit of the doubt to posters like Sakura.
They do not understand the FFP rules exist so clubs are on a level playing field.
If SJR poured a couple of billion into the squad ignoring FFP rules most of us would not be happy if we won the title that way.
Arsenal are the true title winners.
The real problem with the charges and whatever punishment the Premier league hands out to City, the owners are likely to get away with little or no punishment by the FA.
They do not understand the FFP rules exist so clubs are on a level playing field.
If SJR poured a couple of billion into the squad ignoring FFP rules most of us would not be happy if we won the title that way.
Arsenal are the true title winners.
The real problem with the charges and whatever punishment the Premier league hands out to City, the owners are likely to get away with little or no punishment by the FA.
Think it was more they had an issue understanding the concept of time, a difficult thing to overcome.
Wtf have I just read?City shouldn't have signed up to the FFP rules of they were not going to follow them.
Who’s this wet wipe ?
It's like who cares if the Cali and Medellin cartels did something in the 70s and 80s, what's that go to do with today?
He could be a City fan?
No they don’t. There’s an expectation on them (and any local government entity) to get the best sales price/rental possible
Oh gosh, you are right. Phew, great you got here in time to put us right.
I think you are the only one doing some mental gymnastics on here pal.
Go read the leaked Der Spiegel documents or try out your fake gambling sponsors.
Surely this isn’t a serious post
I don't think it is serious either. The last charge is of 2018 and they probably only stopped there because that is what they were investigating at the time when they found all these issues. It doesn't mean they stopped cheating and are likely still continuing still thumbing their noses at regulations.
But more importantly, they built their foundations upon lies, so yes everything they have done since should be considered as profiting from cheating. Nothing they have achieved shouldn't be viewed as legitimate at this point.
Oh no, he was serious
This is actually sickening to read. How could anyone be a fan of this "club"?
They haven't asked for records from 2019 onwards if I remember correctly, and I imagine if they were asked they would refuse and therefore have more recent charges too. The alleged shenanigans around Haaland's transfer are relatively new aren't they? My guess is they have never stopped and just became better at hiding what they were doing.
The fact that it's not so easy to throw the book at them means that these 115 charges and many more which are not exposed yet were being carefully planned many years ago with a team of top lawyers.
To me City is worse than Lance Armstrong. Lance Armstrong was caught and punished. For City's case, everyone know they cheat to the max but no one can do anything about it because there are loopholes in the law.
For club with proper integrity like Everton and etc, they admitted to their mistakes, cooperated with PL and accepted punishment swiftly. Everyone can move on and maintain the integrity of the club and league.
To me City is worse than Lance Armstrong. Lance Armstrong was caught and punished. For City's case, everyone know they cheat to the max but no one can do anything about it because there are loopholes in the law.
For club with proper integrity like Everton and etc, they admitted to their mistakes, cooperated with PL and accepted punishment swiftly. Everyone can move on and maintain the integrity of the club and league.
Yes, I think they just stopped looking because the problem was already too massive to handle. If you notice how quiet the Man City transfers are, I think we can get an idea just from that there might be an issue. They never seem to be involved in a long transfer saga with clubs outwardly holding out for more.
Haaland transfer was very cheap on record....no other club was interested? This is a guy who eas knocking in almost a goal a game over there at Dortmund.
Chelsea tried to sign Haaland twelve months before City. They agreed a fee with Dortmund but wouldn't meet the demands of the player and his dad and agent. The demands were something like £30 million to his dad, £40 million to the agent and a contract of £39 million a year for Haaland! yet we're expected to believe that now he's 'only' earning 15 to 16 million a year.!
If they are let off, could we see the other clubs voting to ban them from the league?
Also, if they are found guilty, wouldn't every club that played them and lost out on something(League title/relegation/cup run/CL spot etc) have a case to sue them for loss of income? Perhaps in a class action law suit?
Also, if they are found guilty, wouldn't every club that played them and lost out on something(League title/relegation/cup run/CL spot etc) have a case to sue them for loss of income? Perhaps in a class action law suit?
Ridiculous, isn't it? And on the transfer end, it is at a time where we are getting quotes of 150 mil for established strikers...nobody else wanted Haaland to get him for 50 mil? Clubs are paying 65-75 mil for Mudryk, Havertz and Anthony. Herr you got a guy who his goal ratio is probably .9 per game and It is 50 odd mil. That's just not believable.
I can't recall them agreeing a fee.
I can easily imagine Dortmund being willing to accept offers, given how the deal was structured, but for Haaland&Co it was always about getting as much as possible, and having a smaller transfer fee they could demand more in wages and compensation, which always meant waiting and essentially allowing the bidding process to begin.
While I've no doubts there were massive fees paid to the agent and daddy, and possibly a nice bonus to Haaland, I've read his contract with Dortmund had a release clause. United weren't willing to insert a release clause a few years back, supposedly, so he went to Dortmund who did insert a clause.