City only need 5, not 19.
City and Financial Doping | Charged by PL with numerous FFP breaches | Hearing begins 16th September 2024
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City only need 5, not 19.
5 what? Or 5 to do what?
I don't know if you have the UK or its government as paragons of virtue, or if that's your personal belief. The amount of scandalous, money-grabbing behaviour they have overseen or partaken in leaves them with no benefit of the doubt this side of the pond.
We're talking about the kind of money that dwarves football here; the UK government are not intervening giving a single feck about those
The bolded has to have been put in for own personal amusement, surely?
Buck Rogers has been assigned the brief.
Guilty. Punishment. Appeal. Successful. Case closed.
If they are gound guilty by the independant panel and decide to appeal the indepenfant chair of the panel will dismiss the panel that found them guilty then select a new panel who will review the appeal, if the 2nd panel uphold the guilty verdict then that decision is final and City will have to accept it and there is no possible way for them to appeal a 2nd time.
I have till November till I'm off to a Boreham Wood forum, I'll miss you guys.
I don't know if you have the UK or its government as paragons of virtue, or if that's your personal belief. The amount of scandalous, money-grabbing behaviour they have overseen or partaken in leaves them with no benefit of the doubt this side of the pond.
We're talking about the kind of money that dwarves football here; the UK government are not intervening giving a single feck about those1912? clubs or whatever stance they wish to take, which is one of the perils of an extremely rich state owning a football club.
The bolded has to have been put in for own personal amusement, surely?
Do you see most non-City fans just accepting it? Look at what happened with the Super League nonsense.
The Athletic Football Podcast covered this quite well today, I thought.
Cock tease
Can someone explain to me am i understanding City case;
City is charged. But they refuse to give books. So now they need to be forced by the court to give books. But their legal dream is delaying that shit. So are they charged or just investigated?
I am completely lost in their case. I would be very grateful if someone explain that to me.
City is charged. But they refuse to give books. So now they need to be forced by the court to give books. But their legal dream is delaying that shit. So are they charged or just investigated?
I am completely lost in their case. I would be very grateful if someone explain that to me.
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but:
They've got about 110 charges for actual dodgy shit up to about 2018, and then another 4 or 5 for refusing to cooperate with documents, information, etc. for the seasons after, which I'm assuming could turn into more charges again.
Man City's commercial income trebled from around £40m in 2011 to around £120m in 2012. No other club has ever recorded growth like it. Clearest red flag of money laundering you're likely to see in a football club's books.
The PL knew what City were up to at the time but turned a blind eye to it as they saw it as commercially advantageous for the wider brand to disrupt the United, Chelsea and Arsenal monopoly on titles.
The PL announced the charges two days before the government's white paper on independent football regulation. I don't believe a 5 year investigation concluded in perfect timing with this watershed moment for football governance by mere coincidence.
The PL have been forced into investigating City's cheating, but now the cat is out of the bag, I expect they are both feet in as their self governance depends upon it.
Expulsion from the EPL is virtually guaranteed. City have literally been actively frustrating the investigation for over 5 years. I don't see a way back for them. The only question is whether it'll be permanent or time-limited expulsion. Time limited is so complicated. Do the EFL accept them in to their structure? If so, they've got to go to the bottom as mid tier will displace teams. If it's permanent EPL expulsion, can the EFL even accept them knowing they can't promote them from the Championship.
Either way, it'll be fun to watch this cancer of the game be systematically dismantled, knowing all their achievements will be asterisked out.
The PL knew what City were up to at the time but turned a blind eye to it as they saw it as commercially advantageous for the wider brand to disrupt the United, Chelsea and Arsenal monopoly on titles.
The PL announced the charges two days before the government's white paper on independent football regulation. I don't believe a 5 year investigation concluded in perfect timing with this watershed moment for football governance by mere coincidence.
The PL have been forced into investigating City's cheating, but now the cat is out of the bag, I expect they are both feet in as their self governance depends upon it.
Expulsion from the EPL is virtually guaranteed. City have literally been actively frustrating the investigation for over 5 years. I don't see a way back for them. The only question is whether it'll be permanent or time-limited expulsion. Time limited is so complicated. Do the EFL accept them in to their structure? If so, they've got to go to the bottom as mid tier will displace teams. If it's permanent EPL expulsion, can the EFL even accept them knowing they can't promote them from the Championship.
Either way, it'll be fun to watch this cancer of the game be systematically dismantled, knowing all their achievements will be asterisked out.
Yeah, please help me...........to be smart in front of my 2 mates (one is Arse fan and other is Pool fan).@adexkola you're up!
They said; "ask your guys on Redcafe. They will know"
Hopefully we’ll at some point see why Pep has decided to spend the bulk of his career there.
Reckon his extra salary will make even Ronaldo’s eyes water.
Reckon his extra salary will make even Ronaldo’s eyes water.
Pity that Liverpool will be handed the PL
Pity that Liverpool will be handed the PL
Small price worth paying to stop certain continued domination from the cheating fecks.
Give me a side following the rules winning it every day over these cheating scumbags, be it Arsenal or Liverpool, it matters not. We need some integrity back in the game.
They cannot do that in a meaningful fashion owing to the way the PL's rules are written. If they get relegated then try to go to a court to get it overturned, it will be thrown out. This is why City have been dragging their heels so much as they know they're fecked if they get found guilty and are punished accordingly. This can also be seen with how they allowed the UEFA punishment to come down, then appealed it.
Best thing would be that they get their sentence in June. After they win PL.Pity that Liverpool will be handed the PL
You need 3/4 to expel. So 15/20. City won't vote to punish themselves. So they need just 5 others to protect them. Chelsea and Newcastle will vote on their side, being fellow sportswashers. So they just need backhanders to persuade 3 other clubs. Once they've got that, they're safe.
I think that, all other punishments having been concluded, they should still be barred from the PL for one year for each year that they've refused to cooperate. That's at least 5 years and counting.
Do you still enjoy watching them or is there a sense of impending doom? Must be kind of weird place to be in as a supporter
Could Ole and Jose get a title? I think they will be relegated to league three but could any previous trophies be taken away?
Abu Dhabi exert too much influence on the UK gov and their mates in the defence industry that have tens of billions worth of contracts so I can see this 'being brushed under the carpet' and a paultry fine to follow.
They cant
Of course they can. I don't know if they would win.
It's now 15 years of corruption and financial doping. Who beats that longevity of cheating in sports?
Russian state sponsored PED doping is only one?
I mean I love watching the team to be honest, from a purely football point of view but the more of this stuff that comes out the more it feels tainted.
I've said before it'll suck for us supporters and I don't think the players or manager should be punished (purely because they're not guilty of the crimes, unless of course they're complicit) but if we're guilty (which I think we are), everyone who had anything to do with the club at top level should be removed from football forever(oners, Soriano, Txixi etc..) and we should be expelled from the PL I'd say for a set number of years to. LIke 3 years of some shit so we can't just get stuck int eh championship for a season and come straight back up like what happened in Italy (though I do feel thats the most likely outcome).
One thing I do know is whether its the CL or Conference League I want this shit over. Its kinda surreal to be like "We're one of the best club side of all time but..."
All that said with a not guilty verdict I'll be in here apologising to City and swinging my willy around about how good we are again.
Then it becomes a competition of who can cheat the best. It’s already going down the shitter anyway - feck it
I don't see how because as we know City are owned by a private individual and not the nation state of Abu Dhabi.
Not a chance anything happens City after the UAE and GB pencilled a nuclear deal together.
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On FFP in general; shouldn't somebody be asking whether it's really a good thing to have a system that heavily incentivises clubs to sell their own academy players?
The rules are stupid
"Yeah but the clubs agreed to it so"
The rules are stupid
"But there was an agreement so the clubs have to adhere"
The rules are stupid
And so on
That’s fair.
Works both ways, incentivises you to create your own so you can fill gaps and not fork out a fee, but also make a huge profit if you train quality players up.
I think it should happen, if they have been found guilty of cheating then 100% they should be stripped of all titles won during that period. It wouldn't be the first time a sports team or sports individual has been stripped of achievements after being found guilty. In 50 years time the records should show the correct winners.
Not sure they will have the balls to do it though.
Not every team is state-backed.