City and Financial Doping | Charged by PL with 130 FFP breaches | Hearing begins 16th Sep 2024 | Concluded 9th Dec 2024 - Awaiting outcome

There were plenty of incidents in La Liga vs Real Madrid where they were favoured for many dubious ref decisions.
Do me a favour....Real Madrid is/was the most powerful club in the world and the favoured team of the establishment in Spain. The MAdrid team had Pepe and Ramos at the back stooping to whatever level was required to win a game, schooled by Mourinho. Giardiola's side played all the football in those games, they didn't need the ref.
 
There was also that game against Arsenal in 2011 in which Van Persie was sent off.

That's irrelevant when it's a UEFA competition though. Any scandal that might have taken place with referees has only been alleged to involve Spanish refereeing.
 
Somebody explain in English what has happened
 
Sounds like Premier League Clubs voted in favour 16-4.

It's the tyranny of the majority yet again!
 
Somebody explain in English what has happened
It's not related to the FFP charges.
This is about the ability of clubs to arrange sponsorships and transactions with Associated Parties - i.e. companies and organizations owned by the same people as the club. Essentially the EPL wants to limit how these deals are handled, City (amongst others like Villa) don't, because a lot of their sponsorships come from associated parties. There was a case earlier in the year where City won on a point related to shareholdings between associated parties, but the majority of their complaints against the EPL APT rules were dismissed. These new rules being voted on and reported today take into account the outcomes of that case and reaffirm the APT rules. City were pushing hard for the clubs to reject the EPL rules, and have taken a massive L in that respect.

TL-DR - City L, EPL W and Mike Keegan looking (again) like a massive loser shill. On a knife edge indeed.
 
Which 4 I wonder?

City, Forest, Everton and Villa?
Heard Everton were voting for it after changing their minds. Maybe Newcastle or one of the more subtle dickhead clubs who s!mp for City because they hope one day they can do that too.
 
Which 4 I wonder?

City, Forest, Everton and Villa?

City and Villa for certain, then likely two of Chelsea, Newcastle and Forest.

It was reported earlier that Everton would vote with the Premier League. It sounds like the potential new Everton owners align themselves more with other clubs.
 
Or maybe they know they are going down, and have threatened Pep that if he doesn't stay then they will take him down with them.

I'd bet my last pound that they have alot of serious dirt on him all ready to come out should he step out of line.

Him leaving real clubs like Bayern and Barca after a few years, but then staying at City for a decade just doesn't add up.
Excellent post. My thoughts except with clarity. The way he was reacting on interviews and on the touchline. Something amiss. Can you imagine what those ******s are like towards their ‘employees’?
 
"There is more chance to stay if we are in League One than if we win the Champions League."
- Pep Guardiola
Wow; in light of the theory of #C’est Moi Cantona, this statement takes on a very different gloss. It’s like a kidnap victim message traced on glass. Sort of.
 
Great news, would have been a huge blow if Manchester City were able to secure enough votes to prevent things like this from passing.
 
So they lost, how will they spin this into a victory? Last time they lost like 16-4 and claimed victory?

They'll probably find a reason to sue again, and then complain about how high the legal fees of the PL are when most of them are spent defending against City cases.
 
So City have lost a fight for sponsorship but still think they are innocent?

The reason they wanted the rule changes is so they can filter the money and make up numbers.

I am glad they lost that case, it would have been the end of fairplay otherwise.

It is obvious that they are using the state backed sponsors. Just look at all their sponsors, they all stem from the middle east.. There is only one reason for that.

City need to be made an example of so the likes of Newcastle, Chelsea do not follow suit.
 
16-4 is a pretty heavy defeat. Villa are essentially a Belarus type of entity at this point, so City are always going to have at least two votes. After that they have Forest, who also have an axe to grind with the PL and Newcastle who I suspect are playing both sides.
 
Closed a loophole which has allowed City to write themselves a blank cheque for the last 15 years. It's good news for all clubs unless you're owned by a middle eastern sovereign wealth fund.
 
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In London earlier. What a bunch of crybabies :lol:
 
So City have lost a fight for sponsorship but still think they are innocent?

The reason they wanted the rule changes is so they can filter the money and make up numbers.

I am glad they lost that case, it would have been the end of fairplay otherwise.

It is obvious that they are using the state backed sponsors. Just look at all their sponsors, they all stem from the middle east.. There is only one reason for that.

City need to be made an example of so the likes of Newcastle, Chelsea do not follow suit.

They wanted to achieve a lot of things, like the tyranny of the majority claim.

For them, a dream scenario would’ve been delaying the vote until the conclusion from the tribunal, then potentially block every attempt at introducing APT rules. Something that would’ve been a bit of a nightmare for the majority of the league.
 
Results like this make me feel better about Ineos buying stake.
If it were the Qataris, we would have most likely been on the same side as City.
 
16-4 is a pretty heavy defeat. Villa are essentially a Belarus type of entity at this point, so City are always going to have at least two votes. After that they have Forest, who also have an axe to grind with the PL and Newcastle who I suspect are playing both sides.

How would Newcastle be playing both sides? They’ve been fairly direct about where they stand in all of this
 
Results like this make me feel better about Ineos buying stake.
If it were the Qataris, we would have most likely been on the same side as City.

It’s also why the PL should have enforced far more strict rules for ownership, simply to prevent the league from essentially ending up in the hands of foreign states and/or groups that have enough cash to finance hefty sponsorships.