City and Financial Doping | Charged by PL with 130 FFP breaches | Hearing begins 16th Sep 2024 | Concluded 9th Dec 2024 - Awaiting outcome

BabySinclair said:
Alvarez has world-class potential.....i can see that he will score 30-40 goals in all competitions for them.
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Lay said:
Do people not rate him or something? I thought he was meant to be an outstanding talent
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What exactly is he going to be world class at? What is he outstanding at? I'm baffled that people rate this kid so highly.
dinostar77 said:
That's a very good question. Why is why I'm wondering why they are allowing the sale?
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Because Alvarez wants more minutes, probably fancies living in Spain much more than Northern England too, and City are getting close to twice the real value of the player so it's a free fleecing opportunity.
 
Remember the geese said:
Who are City replacing Alvarez with?
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Nobody probably.
There is a bit of a log jam for minutes among their forwards.
Haaland has had a good rest this summer and has started the preseason looking back to his best of 2 seasons ago.
When he needs time out or gets an injury they'll probably revert to the false 9 that served them well before with any combination of Foden, Grealish, Doku, Bobb, Savinho, McAtee, Bernardo and KDB contributing.
Sorry to see Alvarez go but there's no defined role for him which is what he needs at this stage.
A couple of warnings for a buyer is his first touch is very heavy and he has been playing almost constantly for over 2 years now and it will tell on him eventually given his all action style of play.
 
Syphon Wallet said:
He's just saying they are getting over 5 times what they paid for him.
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I know that's what he's saying. He's reporting it that way most likely because that is how he received the information. I just don't understand why he can't just add it up and say 'at least £70m' instead of 5x £14.
 
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Rojofiam said:
What exactly is he going to be world class at? What is he outstanding at? I'm baffled that people rate this kid so highly.


Because Alvarez wants more minutes, probably fancies living in Spain much more than Northern England too, and City are getting close to twice the real value of the player so it's a free fleecing opportunity.
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I meant who are they replacing him with? They must have an idea of a replacement to counterance a sale.

Haven't seen anything about city looking at new strikers anywhere
 
Gentleman Jim said:
Nobody probably.
There is a bit of a log jam for minutes among their forwards.
Haaland has had a good rest this summer and has started the preseason looking back to his best of 2 seasons ago.
When he needs time out or gets an injury they'll probably revert to the false 9 that served them well before with any combination of Foden, Grealish, Doku, Bobb, Savinho, McAtee, Bernardo and KDB contributing.
Sorry to see Alvarez go but there's no defined role for him which is what he needs at this stage.
A couple of warnings for a buyer is his first touch is very heavy and he has been playing almost constantly for over 2 years now and it will tell on him eventually given his all action style of play.
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Personally I think that's a risk. But then again what do I know. Will be interesting to see if city go into the season and not replace him and still to the false 9 as you mentioned when haaland isn't playing.
 
dinostar77 said:
I meant who are they replacing him with? They must have an idea of a replacement to counterance a sale.

Haven't seen anything about city looking at new strikers anywhere
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We'll see. If they don't buy anyone, and Haaland gets injured or is rested, they'll probably just put Foden or someone else as false 9 and they'll still be the best team in the world tbh. Probably helps Sávio get more minutes as well since his best position seems to be the right wing, where Foden usually plays.
 
Gentleman Jim said:
Nobody probably.
There is a bit of a log jam for minutes among their forwards.
Haaland has had a good rest this summer and has started the preseason looking back to his best of 2 seasons ago.
When he needs time out or gets an injury they'll probably revert to the false 9 that served them well before with any combination of Foden, Grealish, Doku, Bobb, Savinho, McAtee, Bernardo and KDB contributing.
Sorry to see Alvarez go but there's no defined role for him which is what he needs at this stage.
A couple of warnings for a buyer is his first touch is very heavy and he has been playing almost constantly for over 2 years now and it will tell on him eventually given his all action style of play.
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Thanks. In theory, losing Alvarez and not replacing him should give their rivals a bit of encouragement. Though of course, City have had great success in the past with a false 9, so perhaps his departure won't make much of a difference at all.
 
dinostar77 said:
I meant who are they replacing him with? They must have an idea of a replacement to counterance a sale.

Haven't seen anything about city looking at new strikers anywhere
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There’s a kid at Girona touted to be the next Shearer, apparently City got first dibs at £70m divided by 5
 
WeePat said:
I know that's what he's saying. He's reporting it that way most likely because that is how he received the information. I just don't understand why he can't just add it up and say 'at least £70m' instead of 5x £14.
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Because he/City choose to emphasize the fact that they will quintuple their investment on a bench player that ideally they would have prefered to keep. Most people know by now that 70m was the price they were asking for.
 
WeePat said:
I know that's what he's saying. He's reporting it that way most likely because that is how he received the information. I just don't understand why he can't just add it up and say 'at least £70m' instead of 5x £14.
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Isn't he just saying they are getting at least five times the 14m they paid for him?
 
BabySinclair said:
Alvarez has world-class potential.....i can see that he will score 30-40 goals in all competitions for them.
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Then why are City selling him? PL winning clubs don't generally get market value when off-loading players to smaller clubs, especially abroad. We'd struggle to get €40m in the same situation.
 
Withnail said:
Then why are City selling him? PL winning clubs don't generally get market value when off-loading players to smaller clubs, especially abroad. We'd struggle to get €40m in the same situation.
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Maybe they need money for the FFP breaches.

But i guess Alvarez wants to be the main striker in a top side because he is very good.

Apparently his family lives now in Madrid.

And 80 million is a fantastic price for a player.
 
BabySinclair said:
Maybe they need money for the FFP breaches.

But i guess Alvarez wants to be the main striker in a top side because he is very good.

Apparently his family lives now in Madrid.

And 80 million is a fantastic price for a player.
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Also, he’s hardly a cast off. He started over 40 times for City last season. Either way it’s a lot of money. He has the movement and finishing, but does he have the physicality to lead the line by himself? Not so sure.
 
Sassy Colin said:
Of course he is, but most posters can't be bothered reading stuff first, before posting shite.
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The only thing I said was 5x £14m is an odd way to write about at transfer. If you think that's posting shite, then cool, but it was a fair enough observation to me.
 
Rojofiam said:
Because Alvarez wants more minutes, probably fancies living in Spain much more than Northern England too, and City are getting close to twice the real value of the player so it's a free fleecing opportunity.
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He played more minutes than most at City last year. What he’s said is that he wants to play somewhere that he plays the biggest games. He didn’t get that at City and he’ll be one of the best forwards in World football elsewhere.
 
UnrelatedPsuedo said:
He played more minutes than most at City last year. What he’s said is that he wants to play somewhere that he plays the biggest games. He didn’t get that at City and he’ll be one of the best forwards in World football elsewhere.
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He won't be that anywhere, not even close.
 
About time, hopefully its not a whitewash. Wonder if this is why they aren't doing anything in the market this summer.
 
BeforeKeanetherewasRobson said:
Seriously, if they get trophies taken off them and/or a deduction in points that leads to a relegation (ideally plural), I will take a day off to celebrate and follow social media and laugh
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The absolute scenes if they’re thrown out midway through a season. Would be glorious.

Makes me doubt that a big ones coming their way though. Happy for a more positive perspective to persuade me that’s not the case.
 
bstb3 said:
About time, hopefully its not a whitewash. Wonder if this is why they aren't doing anything in the market this summer.
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I’ve said before but an appropriate punishment would be exclusion from the premier league for 5+ years.
Don’t care if they win the championship multiple years in a row they aren’t getting promoted.
Anything less would be entirely inconsequential and not be a future deterrent at all.
Would also weaken the PL brand irrevocably.
PL also need to introduce rules that say if you don’t provide financial information when requested that you are expelled. No questions asked. How this has been allowed to happen is a fecking major own goal for the whole league.
Has to be done properly from here on in.
 
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