Christian Benteke | BBC: Liverpool Agree £32.5m Fee

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Clyne will improve that, Moreno should be better you would hope, Flanagan might be back at some point and if Sakho can stay fit he and Skrtel aren't that bad as a pairing.
Lovren (in his words), reckons with a good pre-season behind him will be better too, Ilori is a real talent now he is back from loan and that young kid Gomez looks a good one possibly for the future.

I can dream....
Probably a couple of these things will happen, but not all of them.

In CB position you are extremely weak IMO (worse than we are and we are quite awful if we don't sign a top CB), in fullback positions you'll be fine if Clyne/Moreno improve (they are still quite young).
 
Milner and Henderson? Very good midfield?

On what planet?
Milner-Henderson-Coutinho.

Coutinho is great and I rate Henderson highly. Milner is quite ordinary though but will still be an upgrade in Gerrard.
 
I rate Benteke highly but seems like another striker who doesn't really fit Rodgers style of play. He thrives on direct balls and crossing. Are they gonna start playing 4-4-2 and whipping balls into the box all of a sudden?
 
I rate Benteke highly but seems like another striker who doesn't really fit Rodgers style of play. He thrives on direct balls and crossing. Are they gonna start playing 4-4-2 and whipping balls into the box all of a sudden?

Me too. Really wonder about this one.
 
I rate Benteke highly but seems like another striker who doesn't really fit Rodgers style of play. He thrives on direct balls and crossing. Are they gonna start playing 4-4-2 and whipping balls into the box all of a sudden?

Were alot of his goals headers then?
 
He's really not some Andy Carroll MKII who can only play football above waist height. I'm really not sure why people think he's just a lump who can only get on the end of crosses or long balls.
 
He's really not some Andy Carroll MKII who can only play football above waist height. I'm really not sure why people think he's just a lump who can only get on the end of crosses or long balls.

Don't think any of us are saying that, just saying his strength is in the air. Last year his form turned around when Sherwood played to that strength.
 
32 million is a lot to spunk on Benteke. They have spent most of their Sterling money already. They are definitely buying mid level talent.

It's not quite Torres/Carroll, but the fees are very similar.

Look forward to them saying they basically got Benteke for free if it goes to sh!T
 
Milner-Henderson-Coutinho.

Coutinho is great and I rate Henderson highly. Milner is quite ordinary though but will still be an upgrade in Gerrard.
Milner is probably better than Henderson.

It's really not a 'very good' midfield
 
According to Sky earlier, he's got the most headed goals in the past 3 seasons with 13.

In Fairness most clubs probably average 5+ corners a game. I think I read less than 1 in a hundred PL corners lead to a goal. Thats shambolic.
 
As for Drogba/ Benteke, perhaps you misconstrued the emphasis of the point, or maybe I didn't convey it probably. In the latter case, it's my bad. If instead of looking at 100+ games, you watch Drogba and Benteke separately on a year-to-year progressie basis - the former improved each season and became more consistent with his goalscoring sharpness, shooting ability, touch, timing and so forth. Whereas Benteke has failed to replicate his form from 2012/ 2013. What I'm essentially trying to say is that one player was constantly improving and on an upward curve which projected well for his future performances. While the other had regressed, and on a likely downward pointing performance curve.

I get this point, but Benteke's achievement is still worthy of praise considering the team he was playing for. Villa have had to fight relegation for the last three seasons and haven't finished above 15th place since he signed. Villa have scored 117 goals in three seasons playing dire football and one player has scored nearly half of them. Is that not impressive? Its amazing if anything that he even got into double figures in each season playing with that outfit under Lambert. Im sure we won't find another striker at a comparable team who's scored as many in that time frame.

I have a question for you as well. You asked me if I followed Drogba's career before he signed for Marseilles, well did you? Your profile says you're 24 and that would put you around 7-12 during his career before Marseilles. You followed French football that deep at the time? Just a question, if you're really 24.
 
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Thing about Drogba was that he was really highly rated when he came to Chelsea. I remember reading articles about him being the next big thing and found it funny given how clumsy he looked in England early on. Benteke on the other hand is thought of as a good striker. Never heard anyone say he's going to one of the best in the world.

A lot of people also seem to think real life is FIFA. That when a kid is 20 and is this good then he'll have a steady upward slope and hence be this good 5 years later. Benteke having better statistics than Drogba doesn't mean anything if he's simply not got his ability.

I've not watched enough of Benteke to know but I've never thought of him as having that type of ability.
 
Thing about Drogba was that he was really highly rated when he came to Chelsea. I remember reading articles about him being the next big thing and found it funny given how clumsy he looked in England early on. Benteke on the other hand is thought of as a good striker. Never heard anyone say he's going to one of the best in the world.

A lot of people also seem to think real life is FIFA. That when a kid is 20 and is this good then he'll have a steady upward slope and hence be this good 5 years later. Benteke having better statistics than Drogba doesn't mean anything if he's simply not got his ability.

I've not watched enough of Benteke to know but I've never thought of him as having that type of ability.

Drogba made his name at Marseilles. He was already 25 when he joined them and Benteke is not even 25 yet. Did people think Drogba would be a world beater at 24 playing for Guincamp? Did you even know him then?
 
Drogba made his name at Marseilles. He was already 25 when he joined them and Benteke is not even 25 yet. Did people think Drogba would be a world beater at 24 playing for Guincamp? Did you even know him then?
Completely missed the point.
 
Drogba made his name at Marseilles. He was already 25 when he joined them and Benteke is not even 25 yet. Did people think Drogba would be a world beater at 24 playing for Guincamp? Did you even know him then?

Comparing Drogba and Benteke even using your logic its pretty absurd. Thats like comparing Depay to Bale. All wishful thinking and not much else.
 
The point is that players do have to be capable of reaching a certain level. Benteke can't reach Messi's level even if he's scoring 20 goals at 18. And I'm not necessarily saying Benteke has X amount of ability and that's that, as I don't think I've seen enough of him to really say. But this whole idea that "he's scored 20 goals and is achieving more at the same age so can be as good as Drogba" is silly. If he's got the tools to be as good as Drogba then he can be as good as Drogba, and then his scoring goals makes his case stronger.
 
Not a good buy at that price. But he'll probably score between 15 and 20 goals per season IF he stays healthy..
 
Not a good buy at that price. But he'll probably score between 15 and 20 goals per season IF he stays healthy..
Do you think he suits your team's style? I would have thought a quicker more technical striker would have made more sense. That style from 13-14 is what you should be aiming at. Firmino seemed like a step in that direction. This, doesnt'.
 
£32.5 seems like a really steep price. He's a good player, but not worth that sort of money.

Still, I do think he'd be a decent addition for Liverpool. He's far better than someone like Carroll who they paid similar money for, and I'd say he's easily a better player than Lambert. He's not going to rip apart opposition for them in the way Suarez did, but he'll solve some of their striking problems if Sturridge has more fitness worries.
 
Its very strange times. You try and think of keepers to bring in, then you try and think of strikers, and your left stumped. Never been as much money around and yet quality footballers seem in very short supply. Years back you could look down the league and see an Owen or a Shearer, and 10 other great strikers across Europe playing at selling clubs......
 
There's alot of strikers from shearer to Van N for us who you could say were not involving themselves in the intricate build up play as well tho. I mean they are all v competent at doing so but often they just scored shed loads of goals instead

I think in the modern game you cannot afford the luxury of an Owen type striker that purely looks to get on the end of chances - you need a footballer first, one that can hold the ball up and participate in link up play. In the 90's/ early 00's it seemed like everyone had two strikers and striking partnerships were de rigueur - now if you play that system the other team has an extra man in midfield and dominates you. Just my two cents.
 
Do you think he suits your team's style? I would have thought a quicker more technical striker would have made more sense. That style from 13-14 is what you should be aiming at. Firmino seemed like a step in that direction. This, doesnt'.

I'm of a similar opinion too. Benteke is decent in terms of mobility, but you have to question his fit in their fluid attacking scheme. Someone like Lacazette would have been the perfect choice for Liverpool from that that standpoint. Might not have Premier League experience like Benteke does, but his playing style would mesh really well like Liverpool's other attackers. Plus he's a 9/10 hybrid like Sturridge (when fit) and can stretch the field from slightly wider positions, so those two interchanging and swapping roles would have created massive headaches for opposition defenses. A bit like the Suarez-Sturridge tandem in 2013/ 2014 that operated on the same wavelength. Though of course, maybe he wasn't overly interested in the move, or needs for stability with an eye on Euro 2016.
 
Almost 90 million euro's for Firmino and Benteke, they too know how to overpay. While Woodward seems to have forgotten how! Happy days, if only the FFP was still active.

Throw in Manchester United and Liverpool will overpay every time.
 
Not sure if you are serious!

Of course I am serious.

Hernandez and Wilson will get nowhere near and Rooneys performances have been getting worse season after season. I'd be surprised if he gets 20 goals next year.

If benteke stays fit then he will score 20+ goals for them im certain
 
Of course I am serious.

Hernandez and Wilson will get nowhere near and Rooneys performances have been getting worse season after season. I'd be surprised if he gets 20 goals next year.

If benteke stays fit then he will score 20+ goals for them im certain

Wayne Feckin Rooney. The boy who will break all United and England records..he's 29....Played all over the feckin park and does it admirably. If he plays up top all season and stays fit he'll out score nearly everyone if not them all! God I don't get this at all. Scores from within his own half, or from in the dressing room!
 
In a strange sort of way I could see a Benteke/Ings partnership working. Ings could thrive alongside a quality target man and he's also the sort of striker who drops deep and links up well and for his part Benteke is decent playing on the last man. Not a partnership that would do damage at CL level but could surprise a few in the PL.
 
Please tell me how, because im comparing the two players at the same age and stages of their careers. Drogba was 27 when he joined Chelsea. Anyway, it doesn't matter.
Which doesn't determine who will reach the higher level. My next post clarifies.
 
Not even Liverpool are that stupid to pay £32.5 million for Benteke.

Villa would probably accept £20 million (still too much) plus add ons.
 
How much money have Liverpool spent this summer? Does anyone have the number? A lot of money for a team that won't get top 4.
 
How much money have Liverpool spent this summer? Does anyone have the number? A lot of money for a team that won't get top 4.

They always spend big. Benitez spent 300m in his time.....on about 70+ players...
 
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