Quite, Origi is only 20 with little first team experience, he did well at Lille admittedly but he's a striker, not what @Santiago_KinderBueno makes him out to be.
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Quite, Origi is only 20 with little first team experience, he did well at Lille admittedly but he's a striker, not what @Santiago_KinderBueno makes him out to be.
yeah I thought the same, maybe getting mixed up with another player. But then again I am not sure who as we don't really have a prolific crosser of the ball.
I don't think Benteke necessarily needs that anyway. Though he seems decent in the air, that can be used from set plays and corners.
Just because he's signing for the dippers doesn't all of a sudden mean he's sh!te, he's been one of the more consistent goal scorers in the PL over the last few years. He's not worth 32m more in the region of 20-25m, but who are we to take the p!ss about being ripped off after the extortionate fees we have have been paying over the last 2 years.
I think he'll do reasonably well for them. Won't set the world alight, but a fine acquisition all the same. As others have stated, he doesn't seem like an ideal fit for them, as he feeds off crosses and long balls which isn't Liverpool's way of playing, but I struggle to see how parallels can be drawn between himself and Carroll. He's far more gifted and Premier League proven.
What is questionable however, is Rodgers vision for the team. In the 2012/13 season we saw a very vibrant, pacy and direct team playing with a high press. I think that is Brendan's ideology, but since then he's gone on to sign target men, or static strikers in Lambert, Balotelli and now Benteke.
Their other signings are more aligned to that direct style of play, namely Milner, Clyne and Firmino, but he still could have a striker that looks a bit of place and sync with the team.
What is questionable however, is Rodgers vision for the team. In the 2012/13 season we saw a very vibrant, pacy and direct team playing with a high press. I think that is Brendan's ideology, but since then he's gone on to sign target men, or static strikers in Lambert, Balotelli and now Benteke.
Their other signings are more aligned to that direct style of play, namely Milner, Clyne and Firmino, but he still could have a striker that looks a bit of place and sync with the team.
Regardless of the transfer fee, he's a solid player and will score goals for them. But he feeds more on crosses and they don't play that way. Unless Rodgers wants to have variations in his tactics.
He scored 8 goals last season. One hat-trick.
He has not been consistent last year. He had dismal stats up until the middle of the season before hitting a purple patch. Moreover, we did over pay for Di Maria and Shaw last season but we have been very shrewd in our buys this year and no one can say we have overpaid for any of our 4 new summer recruits.
Doesn't change the fact he's in the top 5 goal scorers chart in the PL over the last 3 years, strikers go though dry periods. I'm not saying he's Aguero or a prime RVP but he will score goals. Agree that we have improved in our transfer dealings this season but we got fleeced over Di Maria, Shaw, Mata, Fellaini and the stupid amount we paid Falcao for his stint.
This doesn't make any sense
The fact is that he is in the top 5 because of his excellent debut season. He is not been anywhere near as prolific after that. I don't see him getting 20+ goals for Pool in the league and that is what they need from their lead striker.
Based on what? He scored 13 goals for a team that only managed to score 31 times last season, that's almost half of their goals. He can easily score 20+ goals for us - I'm not saying he will, but saying he won't is a bit too premature for me. Benteke's game has way more aspects than some of you give him credit for, yes he relied on crosses at Aston Villa but he can be useful in other ways too, and he will be given that we don't cross the ball a lot. If you're a solid, versatile striker playing in front of Firmino and Coutinho, maybe even alongside Sturridge, you're going to get goals. If he stays healthy and Liverpool makes sure he's confident enough, I can see him score something around 20 goals next season.
I think you answered your question in the next sentence itself. He scored 13 out of 31 in a team which is set up to serve him to produce the goods. In that scenario he scored just 13, 11 of which came in the last 15 games. He was the main reason why they scored just 31 goals in the league. He is their lead striker and he was awful for the majority of last season.
On the contrary, your second part which I highlighted is not based on anything. How much of Firmino have you seen to make that comment? Apart from Suarez none of your lead strikers have been good in the last 5-6 years. In fact, it can be said that Suarez is the reason which made people like Coutinho seem better than they were. So to come to the conclusion that Coutinho/Firmino will make Benteke raise his game is being way too optimistic.
I think he will do great for them. Much more strings to his bow than Carroll, the last big target man they have. Would easily see him score 15-20 goals next season
BREAKING. Brendan Rodgers is having a medical at Liverpool after agreeing to spend £32.5 million on Christian Benteke.
That's just not true. Go on any Villa forum and read what they were saying during Lamberts reign last season and they were all saying he was starved of any service. Under Sherwood they played more to his strengths and looked to attack. That's when he scored 11 in 15. The reason they scored so few goals wasn't because Benteke was their main striker, but because of Lamberts approach. I find it very difficult to believe you were following Aston Villa carefully last season, so you should probably just accept their fans know a bit more about what went on than you do and they blame the lack of goals on Lamberts approach.
That's probably because Villa play through the middle a lot too. It'd make sense to get crosses into his huge bloke.
Lamberts approach was obviously shite and that was one of the main reasons why they struggled. When have I ever mentioned anything to the contrary but fans do generally find a scapegoat when things go south. We all went mad at Moyes for leaving us in the mire and many of us just gave a free ride to the players. The truth was that the problem lay with both and that is how it always is.
Benteke may have been starved off some service but I saw a few Villa games where he was completely anonymous. He didn't do anything to improve the situation. If you have to have your striker feed off a plate for them to score then it is not worth it for a team aspiring to be in the top 4. Benteke does score the occasional scorchers and he is good in the air, but I don't see anything in his game which has convinced me that he will step it up with better players around him if he is not the main man.
A third of his goals are headers?
He would be a good fit for any midtable club so I think he will do very well there
You said Benteke was the main reason they only managed to score 31 goals in the league. That's contrary to the reason most Villa fans were giving at the time, who claimed their goal scoring problems were't Benteke, but Lamberts approach. They were seemingly proven right about this. Under Lambert, Villa scored just 12 goals in in 25 games. Under Sherwood, Villa scored 19 goals in 13 games. Benteke scored 11 times in those games. So the evidence is pretty compelling that the main reason for their goal scoring problems wasn't Benteke, but Lamberts approach.
Benteke doesn't need to be fed of a plate. But if a coach plays a system that isolates him and he gets no service, it's very difficult for the player to have an impact.
Liverpool aren't going to sit back and leave Benteke up their on his own.
That was my reply to someone saying he scored 13 of their 31 goals. I just pointed out that he was their main striker and his lack of goals was the main reason behind them scoring so few goals. I don't think that I am wrong in that.
As for the Villa fans blaming Lambert, again as I said earlier the fans always look for a scapegoat and the truth is almost always that both players and the manager are at fault to varying degrees. Lambert was also Benteke's manager his first two seasons at Villa. The first one he scored 23 goals and second just 11 goals so to put his lack of goals on Lambert is unfair.
When a new manager comes in, obviously there is change and players start playing better to try and cement their place. That could well have been the case with most Aston Villa players or maybe Benteke just hit a purple patch.
As for Liverpool, I have not seen Benteke actually really getting involved in build ups or be the kind of striker who will pull opposition defenders all over the place. He may not be made of cement but he is not the kind of attacker who would suit Liverpool much. I may be proven wrong but so far he seems to be more of a target man type of center forward than the mobile one which Liverpool should have targeted.
On. The. Money.
Jonathan Wilson with another brilliant article. The best football journalist around for articles and books, no doubt.
Jonathan Wilson with another brilliant article. The best football journalist around for articles and books, no doubt.
He's going to score goals for them but it again feels underwhelming to exchange a 20-year old hot prospect for a 24-year old decent league striker that is obviously not going to set the world alight and is some distance from the world class level they had with Suarez and before him Torres. Liverpool cannot really afford anyone better but they should probably improve their scouting a little because their acquisitions from abroad have been very mixed (well, Can and Coutinho aside they've pretty much all been miss, right?) and they spend way too much on 'decent league players' who can only ensure them 5th to 7th place finish. Not really sure if Liverpool can aspire to be any higher right now though.
World class talent is much scarcer than money so not surprised to see Benteke going for this type of fee.
Batistuta had a nothing all round game. All he ever did was one touch back passes, and knockbacks. What made him one of the best attackers of that generation was his ability to put the ball in the back of the net.
Batistuta's all round game wasn't better than benteke, all the guy did was one touch back passes and knockbacks. Something benteke can more than take care of. Inzaghi played no role in any build up. In the past they were the norm, teams all had goal scoring specialist, either be it a target man or a poacher. Very few teams felt the need to have this magical play-making striker of the modern day. Take a host of those legendary strikers and I doubt teams would sign them due to all teams wanting some lewandowskiesque player.
Injured players don't score goals, you can't score on the opportunity table. While you might think 11 goals per season aint all impressive, just consider that its at a rate nigh on 1 in 2, which is a wonderful rate in the prem no matter how you try to paint it.
Are we actually going to sign this guy or what?
His jeans make him look very happy with the move... Eeek.
He could be a brilliant signing for them, but then again he will be relegated to the bench when Sturridge comes back.
He is a good striker, particularly when his confidence is high. Hopefully he becomes Mario mk II.
So never.
This is the type of player that DOESN'T fit into Brendan Rodgers' style. Could well be a Liverpool board choice rather than a Rodgers one.
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