Never going to happen, and you know it.
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I don't know how you can say this with a straight face.
Eh? What are you blabbering about?
He'll make Fabregas the main man in his midfield like he did with Lampard. Except Fabregas can be potentially even more effective than Lampard.
Never thought Fabregas would join the evil empire either.
Fabregas is very similar to Mata but it begs the question as to why Chelsea want him and didn't want Mata? Surely Mata offers more of a goal threat and is an assist machine....is it because they solely want Fab to set up Costa?
That's actually pretty good. Not as good as Van Pursestrings or even Mancunting United (peterstorey was the provider for the latter).
True, but some of your lesser minded fans won't see it that way.
I try to disagree with you, but with this post you're right, he is too direct for Van Gaal or Guardiola. And he doesn't respect the tempo of the team.
I just did. Barcelona's tiki-taka is based on the Dutch footballing philosophy, Fabregas has failed to cement himself into Barcelona, van Gaal very much possesses the traditional Dutch philosophy. It's not all that far-fetched.
Look what he did to Willian and Ramires. This isn't the Mourinho of old.
Why do you think he has "failed to cement himself"?
They want to sell him? The fans never really took to him. He's returning to the Premier League with his tail between his legs.
Most observers feel it is foolish for them to let him go. Then there is the fact that he often wasn't played in position. Anyone who disregards him based on his stint in Barcelona is being foolish.
Wait, what? He's going to Chelsea?! 
Balague says conversations but no deal.
My point still stands though? He has not integrated himself effectively into Barcelona and their style, which is not too dissimilar to van Gaal's. Ergo he would perhaps not be as great a signing for Manchester United as some are suggesting.
Chelsea's front four options:
------------------Costa/Lukaku-----------------
Hazard/
Schurrle-Fabregas/Oscar-Willian/Salah
Scary.
------------------Costa/Lukaku-----------------
Hazard/
Schurrle-Fabregas/Oscar-Willian/Salah
Scary.
So because he hasn't cemented himself amongst Xavi Iniesta and busquet a he wouldn't be a great signing for a club who starts cleverly Fellaini and a 33 year old Carrick?
Now coming to us instead of Chelsea. Despite neither of us being interested in the first place. Or something.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/cesc-fabregas-transfer-barca-star-3637157
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/cesc-fabregas-transfer-barca-star-3637157
This.
Not my point at all. He hasn't impressed in a footballing philosophy not dissimilar from our new manager's own methods. I think we're all in agreement that Fabregas is better suited to the more direct game?
Agree. He's obviously still a world class player, just because he wasn't able to replace Xavi in Barca's style doesn't mean he isn't as good anymore. He just doesn't suit Barca's style completely. Thiago was forced out a year ago pretty much and now look how highly he is rated.
Don't kid yourself mate. Fabregas would be a better midfield choice than anyone we have in any managers set up.
I think Fabregas is more aggressive and is more inclined to tackle than Mata is but I know what ya mean. Chelsea play 4-2-3-1 and I don't think Fabregas is brilliant in the double pivot and Hazard will want to be in the #10 position which does raise the question of why Chelsea are buying him.
So Fabregas doesn't fit in Louis van Gaals system/style of play. Yet Van Gaal played a 4-4-2 at AZ, a 4-3-3 at Bayern and now wants to play 5-3-2 with Holland against Chili and Spain at the World Cup. If anything, he makes a system that fits his players, not the other way around. And he likes world class players like Fabregas for sure.
Fabregas played 151 matches for Barca, scoring 42 goals giving 48 assists says his wikipedia. How is that failing at Barca?
But perhaps he failed at Spain, who play with mostly Barcelona players. Failed by giving the assist that won them the World Cup perhaps. Or failing by assisting in the Euro 2012 final?
If we don't sign Fabregas, the club/LVG might make a statement that we were looking for a different kind of player. But that's just nonsense, if Fabregas really would like to play for United more than all the other clubs, we'll sign him 100%.
Fabregas played 151 matches for Barca, scoring 42 goals giving 48 assists says his wikipedia. How is that failing at Barca?
But perhaps he failed at Spain, who play with mostly Barcelona players. Failed by giving the assist that won them the World Cup perhaps. Or failing by assisting in the Euro 2012 final?
If we don't sign Fabregas, the club/LVG might make a statement that we were looking for a different kind of player. But that's just nonsense, if Fabregas really would like to play for United more than all the other clubs, we'll sign him 100%.
Of course he'd be an improvement on Cleverley, but if we're to spend £30 million on a midfielder would it not be better spent on someone more effective in our manager's methods?
Van Gaal from what I've seen is more direct then Barca's style these last 5 years, it might be like a similar philosophy but not nearly as hell bent on possession as them.
Obviously not, but there is still some similarities.
Thing is, what other midfielder?
Strootman appears nailed on eventually, he is someone van Gaal obviously trusts.
Van Gaal himself said he plays possrssion but with a purpose, certainly with far more urgency than the tiki taka barca are playing nowadays.
Your mistake is thinking van Gaal equals tiki taka. If you look back at his teams and certainly more presently, he is definitely doing something else.
He also has a plan b and just said about the Ghana game that van Persie took down the balls well when they played a different tactic.
Your mistake is suggesting I ever said that.
Woody stop fecking around and get on the blower and get this guy...
Fabregas is going to the club that doesn't want him the least.
Which means there's nothing to suggest that Fabregas isn't his type of player. Thiago before Fabregas didn't suit Barca completely because he took too many risks, or liked a slightly more direct style. Doesn't mean he's made for a full counter attacking style, just a more direct style of possession play then Barca had. Think it's the same case with Fabregas. He's made for a possession style game, just not to Barca's extent and he isn't as good as Xavi, therefore he isn't viewed as a success.
Anyways, I think we said no to him because we have Mata, Kagawa and Rooney who can play at the tip of the midfield trio and LvG wants a more all around player for the box to box midfielder or whatever, in front of a defensive mid.
Surely the bigger concern here is how proactive/successful Chelsea are being in their pursuit of targets compared with us when their need for many of these players is much less.
For our national team yes, because we lack this type of player in Holland. He is crucial for us simply because we have rubbish players in his position.
Will he go for him when he has the pick of every nationality though? Who knows.
Your whole argument is to drone on about the system Barca applies and that van Gaal plays quite similar to that, thus Fabregas would also fail for us.
Correct?
Van Gaal might like possession football but I don't think it's comparable to Barcelona under Guardiola for example. That's a whole new level.
I'm pretty numb to all this now. More serious questions to be answered about our transfer performance for the last 18 months in particular. The whole World Cup year problems seemingly isn't affecting Chelsea.
City showed last year that you can only benefit from getting your business done quietly and quickly.
I'm pretty numb to all this now. More serious questions to be answered about our transfer performance for the last 18 months in particular. The whole World Cup year problems seemingly isn't affecting Chelsea.
City showed last year that you can only benefit from getting your business done quietly and quickly.
I agree with this.
Just felt it was food for thought that Fabregas failed to impress significantly in a system not all that dissimilar from van Gaal's philosophy.
Never said that either.
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