The fact that not only does his club want to sell him, but that he has been offered to the top teams in England and as of yet not one has apparently returned with any concrete interest, speaks volumes. He isn't as good as people think he is. City are doing well to steer clear and I won't be particularly worried if he joins a rival team. Very good player but nothing more.
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Alright, ''failed to impress'', ''not that great a signing'', ''failed to cement his place in a similar philosophy''. Arguing semantics becaude you feel you have wandered into territory you were never so sure about and did the old 1 plus 1 is 3?
It's ok.
Alright, ''failed to impress'', ''not that great a signing'', ''failed to cement his place in a similar philosophy''. Arguing semantics becaude you feel you have wandered into territory you were never so sure about and did the old 1 plus 1 is 3?
It's ok.
You're some clown, I love your work.Maybe he's signing for Madrid. Didn't Perez openly admire Cesc last year? Now that would be something...
Still don't see how Cesc failed at Barca or at Spain with mostly Barca players. But he was better at Arsenal than at Barcelona because he was basically the most important man in Arsenes team, all players would benefit from that greatly.
Very good player joining the side that did the double over you and is in a position that they really need.
They finished 4 points behind you with no strikers. They will address that within days with Costa.
Kiss of death if I ever saw one. Chelsea it is then.
I expect Barcelona would rather kill Fabregas than sell him to Madrid.
I doubt Ronaldo will ever return to the Premier League, but if he ever did then joining City is exactly what I'd expect him to do. There are some parallels of course, but I get the impression that many Arsenal fans seem to think Cesc genuinely loves Arsenal, which I certainly don't think would ever be the case with Ronaldo and United.
Maybe that was Perez' plan all along.
i was looking for the white text.
honestly that's a load of shite.
if you actually watch cesc you'd know he's still easily one of the top 5-10 passers in the world. As a playmaker in a more direct system he's one of the best. In barca's system... he's not as good as he can be, and he does slow down barca's play alot. This isn't his fault though, it's just the way he plays, it's barca's fault for buying a player that has no use in their system.
please watch a player that you make a judgement about. this assesment is cringeworthy. i honestly hate seeing cesc play at barca because he 'ruined', or, heavily third wheeled what was a flawless system. However, it's impossible to deny cesc's qualities.
I really wanted him, last season, but Mata does change that, for me. Part of the appeal of Fabregas, to me, is his versatility. We'd only ever use him in central midfield, though, and I don't see him as the ideal option there.
I think there are better options for Chelsea, too. Like others have said, he doesn't seem a Mourinho type player.
Maybe I should go to bed.
I think there are better options for Chelsea, too. Like others have said, he doesn't seem a Mourinho type player.
It took me a while to get my head round this...
Maybe I should go to bed.
Pretty much echoes my thoughts on the matter.
If this happened last summer and we passed on him I would have been more annoyed since I never particularly trusted Moyes judgement.
We have a top manager now who knows exactly what he wants and how to achieve it. If Van Gaal doesn't think he's right for what he wants us to do then so be it.
We have a top manager now who knows exactly what he wants and how to achieve it. If Van Gaal doesn't think he's right for what he wants us to do then so be it.
Is Cesc realy a CM though? I consider him more of an attacking mid these days
He's probably as much a centre-midfielder as Sneijder nowadays.
Says so himself in his twitter bio.
Cesc is a lot more combative than Mata and has plenty of experience in CM in this league. He's infinitely more capable than Mata of playing deeper.
Thats what I thought
Says so himself in his twitter bio.
Ah Twitter, must be right then
Fabregas can play in central midfield but he is very attacking. I would out him between a CM and a CAM. We don't need one of those. We need a holding midfielder and a box-to-box midfielder to provide energy to the midfield.
I'm saying he himself considers himself a CM.
I mean, he plays up front for Spain. This should probably be enough to suggest he isn't what we should be looking for.
Exactly.
Next year when he lands the ball on Costa's chest 10 yards from goal about 6 times a game, this is going to look very silly.
It's not a load of shite, it's simply a different opinion to yours. You choose to believe the reason Fabregas has failed at Barca is because of the incompatibility of his style with their system. Fair enough. I choose to believe it is partly because of that, but also because he hasn't progressed as he should have done and has generally not played to his potential. He is a very good player and he was excellent for Arsenal and could be equally excellent when he returns to England but personally, I don't feel he is as special as people make out.
Why would he be incapable of playing as a CM now after excelling there for Arsenal for years?
And we had huge injury problems last season. Hopefully we won't have them as bad this year. We will also be making signings and improving our team. Both teams will strengthen. Chelsea will obviously be a better team with Costa and Fabregas but the chances are so will City, United, Liverpool, Arsenal etc. with the signings they make too.
BBC now tweeting were in the lead but upon further inspection are just rehashing the Express story
I didnt say he couldnt Im just trying to work out where he would fit in in that team
It was their gossip column page tweet they put up every night.
I'm quite confused myself. I almost feel like going back to check old Arsenal formations to see where exactly he was playing for them, because I'm seeing this "can't play at CM" thing a lot more now, and it's baffling
Have people forgotten he had a career before moving to Barca?I think he'd be guaranteed to play as a CM for us in most games and for Chelsea there's no reason he couldn't play the role Lampard plays at the moment. Or even the one Ramires plays in his place. Fábregas does a lot of running and is reasonably aggressive so he really shouldn't have any problem re-adjusting to the hustle and bustle of PL midfield play. He's definitely best in front of a couple of centre mids where Ramsey or Oscar plays now, but that's still a midfield role - he's never really excelled as an attacker for Barca or Spain.
I can't believe anyone wouldn't want him. Mourinho had no problems with Modric last season so there's no reason to think he'll put the shackles on Fábregas. At the point of their midfield trio with Oscar and Matic beside him and Hazard and Willian either side, it's pretty clear they won't be playing mechanical football in any way. It's not free-flowing Arsenal but I reckon he'd absolutely thrive there.
If what Pique let slip in the press con is true, it can only be a short matter of time before his destination is revealed?
Well unless what Pique meant is that Barca told Cesc he could/should leave for 33 million, and he decided to focus on playing the World Cup and see what offers come in. So he can chose afterwards, consider all the options and make the best choice.
He'd be a better CM than any of our current lot.
Maybe he isn't the same player anymore, that would be a shame as he used to remind me of a young Scholes when he first came on the scene. Difficult for me to think that he wouldn't be any good plus he has had to compete for places in a team with the likes of Xavi and Iniesta who are two of the best around.
Maybe he isn't the same player anymore, that would be a shame as he used to remind me of a young Scholes when he first came on the scene. Difficult for me to think that he wouldn't be any good plus he has had to compete for places in a team with the likes of Xavi and Iniesta who are two of the best around.
If I'm not mistaken the whole thing flared up because of a video right?
So I just watched the video and the mics are on and Pique and Del Bosque are laughing? Looks like a practical joke or a hoax, really.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=cp1uCYu6g8o
So I just watched the video and the mics are on and Pique and Del Bosque are laughing? Looks like a practical joke or a hoax, really.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=cp1uCYu6g8o
Since when do Barcelona or Spain play with a 10?
They play with a false nine anyway.
I read that Pique quotes are a joke, apparently he can pull of this sort of stuff and enjoys confusing poor old Vicente.
Makes sense because even if Pique knew how situation unfolds, he probably would not have discussed it in front of the media.
Makes sense because even if Pique knew how situation unfolds, he probably would not have discussed it in front of the media.
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