Chelsea reach agreement to sign Cesc Fábregas

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I can't beleive how easily some fans are sent into a spiral of dispair, the window doesn't even open for another month! The club seems to get berated if they are transparent with their dealings or if there's silence like now.
 
I can't beleive how easily some fans are sent into a spiral of dispair, the window doesn't even open for another month! The club seems to get berated if they are transparent with their dealings or if there's silence like now.

Such a lame excuse. Clubs are doing business as we speak. We in the past, especially in major tournament summers have done business before they start. The problems we face are well documented. We don't have european football which okay it might not be the end of the world like some would have you believe, it will make some players think twice. It also puts us in a position where our targets could have blinding world cups and have an extra £10m put on to the high price we have to pay for the lack of european football.

Hopefully this is all just a fuss over nothing. Hopefully we have got most of the deals in place/done already and just waiting to announce it at a later date.
 
Youre missing the point. They may very well be able to fit him in - but he isnt a winger, nor I suggest would he want to be deployed as one.

Your argument seems to be that they should buy a central midfielder instead of a winger because he's a better player. I'd suggest that gievn that they are targetting and making bids for a wide player then that's what they want. Rodgers plays a specific system and what he does works. I suspect Lallana has been targetted because he feels like he will fit that system. I suspect that he won't change his system just to fit a player in.

He might very well love to have Fabregas in his squad - but the pursuit of Lallana, given he evidently wants another wide player in his squad in order to compete on various fronts next year, is arguably irrelevant.
You can't really say whether he's planning on deploying Lallana wide or through the middle. What's all this talk about a specific system as if cesc would disrupt that? Nothing of the sort would happen, they'd just have better quality footballers than they would if they sign lallana instead. Its that simple.

As we found out, what he's doing works...to an extent. I'd say its a question of quality rather than system. Sterling wide is as good as Lallana wide. The system they use only has one wide player. So if they are indeed buying him primarily for the wide role, they are buying him to compete with Sterling which is pretty illogical as they'd end up with a player too good to bench, on the bench. What's the upside in such a transfer then? If they are buying him for a wide role that'd mean he doesn't rate sterling that highly or he's in the business of buying 25 million quid squad players.

Now let's go into the midfield and see what they have. They either play hendo-gerrard-coutinho or Allen/lucas-gerrard-hendo if they didn't. I can't under any conditions believe there's more of an upside in spending all that money on lallana than on Fabregas. Especially if it turns out that they'll play Lallana through the middle instead of outwide(which I believe will happen)

Them competing on all fronts will be more improved by the cesc transfer than lallana. Get them both if they're really out to show serious intent. Their midfield isn't going to cope in the CL, as we've seen midfield combos of such limited quality as there's simply get tortured at that level.
 
http://www.theguardian.com/football...ve-cesc-fabregas-barcelona-arsenal?CMP=twt_gu
The midfielder, capped 87 times by Spain and a two-time European Championships and World Cup winner, could operate in a deep-lying role alongside Nemanja Matic and dictate the rhythm of Chelsea’s performances, and is attractive given his familiarity with the rigours of the Premier League.

Hard to imagine what LVG has planned for us, where that wouldn't be exactly the same sort of role we need filling.
 
Doubt he knows all that much.

That gif is brilliant! :lol:
Balague knows nothing! I am still laughing when Spain's 30 men squad for the WC was revealed Balague said that that's Del Bosque's way first to select Villa and Torres to let them know that he still rates them, but then eventually not to take them to Brazil and thank them for all they have done for Spain!
Turns out Del Bosque takes both of them to Brazil :lol:
And in the last few weeks everyone and his dog - basically every half decent journalist in Spain - knew those two were going with Costa!
 
I'm struggling to see any reason why we aren't in for Fabregas and I'm beginning to doubt our recruitment policy, happy to be proven wrong.
 
I'm struggling to see any reason why we aren't in for Fabregas and I'm beginning to doubt our recruitment policy, happy to be proven wrong.

If LvG doesn't want Fabregas I am not sure where we go from here. Moyes would be all over this like a tramp on chips.
 
I'm struggling to see any reason why we aren't in for Fabregas and I'm beginning to doubt our recruitment policy, happy to be proven wrong.
The deal's done for him to come back to Arsenal. All that's happening is us trying to screw the price down
 
If LvG doesn't want Fabregas I am not sure where we go from here. Moyes would be all over this like a tramp on chips.

Haha!!!

I just can't see any better who is available, Chelsea would have a scary midfield with so much depth. I just can't understand not making a bid...
 
I am not sure Fabregas is Jose's player, unless he wants to play him as a 10, but then he has to sell Oscar! As a pure CM Jose prefers other types of midfielders with a bigger defensive contribution.

Regarding us maybe LvG thinks we already have enough creativity - and we do tbf - and what we need is a solid base which can allow that creativity to flourish. Then Fabregas wouldn't fit the bill.
 
I'm struggling to see any reason why we aren't in for Fabregas and I'm beginning to doubt our recruitment policy, happy to be proven wrong.

I'm thinking that there could be truth in the theory that we now want to be a bit more selective and secretive with the information we leak out, last summer was an embarrassment for us and I'd like to think that we've learnt from that and keep our cards closer to our chest this time round.
 
I am not sure Fabregas is Jose's player, unless he wants to play him as a 10, but then he has to sell Oscar! As a pure CM Jose prefers other types of midfielders with a bigger defensive contribution.

Regarding us maybe LvG thinks we already have enough creativity - and we do tbf - and what we need is a solid base which can allow that creativity to flourish. Then Fabregas wouldn't fit the bill.

Just out of interest, don't you think that we need a creative, goal scoring midfielder?!
 
I'm struggling to see any reason why we aren't in for Fabregas and I'm beginning to doubt our recruitment policy, happy to be proven wrong.
Hopefully it will sort out but are seriously going to get a better midfielder than Fabregas? Seems unlikely. I'm sure we'd only be his 4th or 5th choice of Premier League teams but it doesn't seem like there's huge demand, I'm really surprised if we're not interested. At least Van Gaal seems to have a game plan though, Moyes only bought 2 players and he didn't have a clue what to do with either of them.
 
Such a lame excuse. Clubs are doing business as we speak. We in the past, especially in major tournament summers have done business before they start. The problems we face are well documented. We don't have european football which okay it might not be the end of the world like some would have you believe, it will make some players think twice. It also puts us in a position where our targets could have blinding world cups and have an extra £10m put on to the high price we have to pay for the lack of european football.

Hopefully this is all just a fuss over nothing. Hopefully we have got most of the deals in place/done already and just waiting to announce it at a later date.
Because we've seen dozens of transfers already agreed, there's Costa, Lambert... Phil Bardsley. I referenced the transfer window becauses its still a month away, most transfers won't be confirmed until after that date. As you rightly said most clubs will be doing their business now but what firm evidence do we have of all their foreseeable purchases? About as much as ours. Just because the club hasn't come out and confirmed an agreement doesn't mean there isn't one in place. For now all we can do is swabble over misguided comments from ITK 'journalists' who seem to chance their mind every few days.
 
I'm fine letting Fabregas slide by, but we better sort out our midfield by the time the season starts. So many quality midfielders moving around in the last year or so, Thiago, Matic, Fernandinho, now Fabregas and we better not have Cleverley/Fletcher starting for us not season.
 
Cesc isnt physically or tactically suited to a deeper role in midfield. His quality lies in the final third where he can create chances and score goals. Fabregas is a no. 10 in every sense of the word. He hasn't played as an out and out CM since 2009.

Rightly or wrongly, you would have to think that this is probably the reason why we are not pursuing him, given we already have enough players for that role.
 
We've got a black hole in the middle of the pitch. A world class midfielder is available for a reasonable fee. We're not interested. Puzzling.
There's no puzzlement. Dead Ed & co have rung Darren Dein and he's said Fab is coming back to Arsenal. The only issue is us trying to drive down the fee.
 
Just out of interest, don't you think that we need a creative, goal scoring midfielder?!
Nope! We already have 4 strikers and Mata/Kagawa/Januzaj who when used properly in a functioning team can score enough goals.

For me of course a midfielder who could score a bit would be a bonus, but above all I want one defensive one and if we are buying two then the other one should still be a more allround one, a Schweinsteiger or Koke rather than Fabregas.

I like Fabregas, but I can see why we might not be in for him.
 
Seeing midfielders who would be a perfect fit here end up elsewhere season after another is baffling. None of the usual excuses stands up to scrutiny. We have the money since we've spent on other areas. There's been a few players available so it is not an issue with who's available. Two of our midfielders retired (Scholes, Giggsy), two have been sold (Hargreaves, Gibson), one became/stayed fat/unfit (Anderson) and one has a chronic illness so it is not an issue of having too many players in that area. SAF left so it is not that SAF accepted a challenge to win trophies without a midfield. It's a mystery, it really is.

Would anyone be surprised if by the end of the transfer window, our incoming players are a CB, LB, and a striker/winger? I wouldn't.
 
If Barcelona are looking to sell Fabregas to fund a Koke deal, we should at least try to beat them to the punch. I would make a strong bid for Koke to test At Madrid's resolve. He is the Spanish midfielder we should really be targeting, not Fabregas.
 
No one actually knows that we aren't in for him. We might well be. People are just jumping to conclusions.
 
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