If he had the players im sure he would. His Madrid team were not overly defensive.
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Liverpool makes no sense for him when Arsenal are financially every bit as strong financially (far more if they want to flex), and as good a team too.
I'd disagree to be honest, I think Cesc is more than capable of playing deeper. When he plays for Spain and Barca he does have licence to get into box a lot but he is also very effective in midfield alongside Xavi, Iniesta who I liken him to more than a typical no 10.
As for the rest I agree totally. Also Schweinsteiger being quoted at as little as 10m if reports are true.
Arsenal are not in for him according to various media sources. Arsenal are stocked to the brim with players of his elk and i think their priority is DM, CF and RB. Fabregas would be a luxury signing Arsenal don't need.
Liverpool makes perfect sense for both parties. Wouldn't piss off Arsenal fans too much since they have no real beef with Liverpool and he would have a field day threading passes into Suarez, Sturridge and Sterling. I can see Liverpool being genuine title contenders again with reinforcements in midfield and defense.
I think it would be clever to not go for Fabregas simply because I don't think we need him. It is better going for a box-to-box midfielder like Strootman instead of a big money signing like Fabregas.
We also need someone who can score goals from midfield, Fabregas is ideal for that role. And if the £30m price tag has any truth to it then surely he has to be worth a bid...
Why would you want to upset him?
I honestly don't see him going to Chelsea. I don't see him working with Mourinho to be honest.
I see Fabregas has an offensive Box to Box, in the Scholes tradition. Having him for 30m-40m would be terrific.
I know what ya mean but Strootman or a Vidal score goals from midfield and they are better defensively.
He has said he wants to play further forward. He will be in Mata's position.
They probably think he's too deer.
I want him so desperately not to go to Arsenal just because it will be funny
Arsenal aren't as good as Pool if last season is anything to go by. Arsenal compete for 4th while Pool mounted a title challenge. Plus they have the best player in the league and another striker who's scoring at an outrageous rate. Flexing isn't something arsenal do, I'm sure we all know that. He's been to arsenal and seen how things work there. Surely he'd be willing to try something new, at a club that seems on the up instead of a perennially stagnant one?
Anyways don't know if arsenal are interested in him. They have loads of quality players in his position, he might just find himself competing for a spot rather than running the team. Ramsey, wilshere, ozil, and cazola are the sort of competition he wouldn't need to face at pool.
Cesc Fabregas to sign for before 2nd September 2014
Sign For Before 2nd September Loan deals do count, if player does not move clubs all bets are settled as losers
Chelsea 7/4Arsenal 7/2
Manchester City 7/2Manchester Utd 7/1
Current odds for him to move, new Chelsea info has moved them from fourth to favourites to sign. We are worth a cheeky punt at 7/1?
Sign For Before 2nd September Loan deals do count, if player does not move clubs all bets are settled as losers
Chelsea 7/4Arsenal 7/2
Manchester City 7/2Manchester Utd 7/1
Current odds for him to move, new Chelsea info has moved them from fourth to favourites to sign. We are worth a cheeky punt at 7/1?
Strootman is injured, we can't even use him when the season starts, people seem to ignore that rather big issue. We'd probably have to wait until January to sign him.
The way I see it, a modern team can have its "playmaker" in a deep midfield role (eg Pirlo) , as a number 10 (eg Ozil) or cutting in from wide (eg Silva/Nasri for City). But in order for the team to be properly balanced you have to go with one of the three only. Its clear that our squad already has top class playmakers in the number 10 position in Mata (and a lesser extent Rooney/Shinji).
I think LVG sees this and therefore thinks he can't play both Mata as a 10 and Fabregas deeper in midfield. What he's in the market for seems to be more functional midfielders who'll be good on the ball but provide a solid base defensively. Hence the links to Strootman types. LVG knows what he's doing and he knows the type of players he needs to suit his system best. If he thinks Kroos/Cesc aren't the right type of player then he won't waste time on him. Its good to see sensible assertive management.
I think LVG sees this and therefore thinks he can't play both Mata as a 10 and Fabregas deeper in midfield. What he's in the market for seems to be more functional midfielders who'll be good on the ball but provide a solid base defensively. Hence the links to Strootman types. LVG knows what he's doing and he knows the type of players he needs to suit his system best. If he thinks Kroos/Cesc aren't the right type of player then he won't waste time on him. Its good to see sensible assertive management.
Balague does talk bollocks on occasion, but it sounds believable.
Bastard should be made to crawl through the catflap begging, as punishment for rejecting us last summer.
Youre missing the point. They may very well be able to fit him in - but he isnt a winger, nor I suggest would he want to be deployed as one.
Your argument seems to be that they should buy a central midfielder instead of a winger because he's a better player. I'd suggest that gievn that they are targetting and making bids for a wide player then that's what they want. Rodgers plays a specific system and what he does works. I suspect Lallana has been targetted because he feels like he will fit that system. I suspect that he won't change his system just to fit a player in.
He might very well love to have Fabregas in his squad - but the pursuit of Lallana, given he evidently wants another wide player in his squad in order to compete on various fronts next year, is arguably irrelevant.
If it is true that he's beeing pushed out (I don't believe it), they shouldn't get anywhere near €35M
I'd believe it. The Guardian, The Times etc wouldn't all report it at the same time if it wasn't true.
Seems a fair price to me? He was a luxury signing that didn't go to plan but don't see why his value would decline...
You're right and in itself that creates a dilemma for van Gaal. Based on a hunch and what a couple of Dutch journalists have said, I think it is Strootman who van Gaal really wants in Midfield. He might be back September/October so does he spend on him in this window (assuming he can pass the medical) or keep the money back until January for him? Also, are Roma more likely to sell this summer or in January or not at all? Difficult to say, but if fitness wise, he can do a deal in this window for him, I think he will.
I don't think £28.5m is a lot of money for a player of his caliber, in fact, by recent standards it's probably a steal.
So Barca need the money for Koke, as they don't have the money we should make a bid for Koke now as we have the funds.
Band wagon?
It's a fair price for him I believe, but the fact that a club is desperate to sell takes a large chunk out of the fee. I'd put in a cheeky £24M ish bid.
Unlikely. Those papers are reliable. Barca haven't exactly shot it down have they? Look at it this way, same thing happened when Fergie retired, Moyes got sacked, Mata wanted out. When all the reliable papers come out with the same story at the same time it's clearly briefing which has occured.
Different scenarios/setups/wages bla bla bla, but if we turn down Fabregas for a few million quid more than Fellaini, I will cry.
Eh? He was a near perfect all rounder midfielder during his tenure in the Premier League. Get him back to the level he was at with Arsenal and he would be the best midfielder in the league, hands down
I have heard that he has said he wants to play further forward. We need a central midfielder not an attack midfielder. If he is happy sitting deep then it could work.
Cowdenbeath...they need a bit of quality now they are staying up in the Scottish Championship
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He changed his style of play and system dramatically this season tbf.
It's Arsenal or Chelsea now I reckon.
Starting to feel a bit sorry for Francesc. Get's his dream move to Barcelona, and after 3 seasons, where he very rarely got to play in his natural position, they want to get rid of him. Now it seems no one wants him.
Something tells me Van Gaal may still go after him.
Tony Barrett has said Rodgers is a big admirer of Fabregas and Fabregas was offered to us along with other English clubs, but we have no interest. He says Alwxis Sanchez is the Barcelona player that Rodgers does have interest in and he would like to move for him should he become available.
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