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Charlie Adam | Set for talks with Liverpool
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The moment we've all been waiting for could be about to happen! Liverpool are close to completing the signing of Charlie Adam - thank you bin dippers 
The moment we've all been waiting for could be about to happen! Liverpool are close to completing the signing of Charlie Adam - thank you bin dippers
Good stuff. He and Carroll can have a pie eating contest.
Oh the mediocrity.I'd welcome this kind of news. Was genuinely afraid Fergie might be interested in signing him.
Liverpools first choice team next season to include Downing/Adam/Henderson and Carroll.
With him and Henderson they'll be fighting for the Europa League positions in no time.
Buy mid-table players and you will end up mid-table.
Same here, especially after it was revealed we tried to sign 1 player in jan and fergies comment about Adams set piece play, scared the shit out of me!
The sooner he signs for the scousers the better.
Phew.....what a relief, nice to know we can count on KK now Rafa's gone.
He's a good player but I didn't want us to buy him. Now we won't for sure.
He's a good player but I didn't want us to buy him. Now we won't for sure.
To be fair, I don't get why everyone is so quick to laugh at this potential signing for them. He's got a quality left foot, sees passes that most player's(with bigger reputations and transfer values) can't, is useful on set-pieces, and has PL experience. I can't see him going for more than £10m, and for that sort of fee, you can't ask for more than what they'd get. His fitness will improve if he goes to Liverpool or any other top club and works with the superior fitness coaches, nutritionists etc.
I'm not sure he'll be a bonefide regular but he's good enough to add something to a squad IMO, but then again I like to think I'm unbiased and don't let who a player plays for/may join influence my opinion...
I'm not sure he'll be a bonefide regular but he's good enough to add something to a squad IMO, but then again I like to think I'm unbiased and don't let who a player plays for/may join influence my opinion...
To think Liverpools midfield has gone from Xabi Alonso/Javier Mascherano and Steven Gerrard to Charlie Adam/Jordan Henderson/Jay Spearing and Lucas in the space of 2 years, with a crocked Gerrard thrown in to the mix.
Because if they've collectively spent around £70million for the likes of Carroll, Henderson and Adam...it's safe to assume they won't be spending much on true international talent.
I think there was a bit of mischief in Fergie's comment. I think he knew exactly what he was doing and at no stage did he consider him "United quality".
If Liverpool are truly in for him and have Henderson and Adam to show for £30million then KK had better have a master plan.
Wait until they claim Kenny has only signed him to stop Fergie getting him.
"bonefide"
Nah its Fergie whos the obsessed one remember? the Liverpool echo said so, hes scared of Kenny apparently, with signings like this you can see why, id be scared of someone whos contemplating spending close to 100 million on dross like Downing, Adam, Henderson and Andy Carroll, you wouldn't want to bump into that individual would you?
So basically anyone who disagrees is biased?
I hope he goes to Liverpool for 2 reasons:
1. United wont be getting him.
2. He'll be playing at a higher level than he is just now, thus benefiting the national team.
1. United wont be getting him.
2. He'll be playing at a higher level than he is just now, thus benefiting the national team.
So them buying potential rather than peak talent is folly whereas when we do it with the likes of Jones, Smalling, Hernandez et al, it's dandy? Let's face it, not every signing is going to work out every time but their approach to the transfer market since the takeover has been similar to ours, paying substancial fees for the best British talent around and looking for value where they can find it, and Adam for £10m or less, isn't such a big gamble in the modern day.
Bias as football supporters often influences our judgement too much, one minute Michael Owen was a joke and past it, next minute he signed for us and the old "will score us goals", "Fergie masterstroke" cliches were being rolled out. One minute Jordan Henderson had great potential, next minute he signed for our rivals, and he's complete pap who they've overpaid for. I could go on with the examples but the point is that viewing everything through red tinted specs isn't always the best way to come to a conclusion.
Yes, they probably overpaid on Henderson and certainly overpaid on Carroll but that's not to say they aren't good player's with further scope for development when taking their age into account. The same applies to us and all the young talent we pay a premium for, but the sad thing is that had Jones gone to Liverpool, we'd now have threads about how average he is, how Liverpool are mugs to spend so much on him etc.
Absolutely, he's far too wily to show his hand like that.
Key point youve missed here is the collective fee for those 3 we signed is little more than 30 million, Liverpool paid more than that for 1 Andy Carroll nevermind the fees for Henderson and co chucked in.
I think thats the key issue here, Liverpool are spending massive amounts on very average talent, put it this way would you be a happy man if Sir alex ferguson and David Gill sanctioned a near 100 million spending spree on the level of players Liverpool are? id be fecking fuming.
He'll probably bag a hattrick against us next season.
David Bentley scored a hatrick against us, hes still a pile of rotting wank.
Aye, but we did lose that game and it was unpleasant.
I'd say that spending £70million on mid-table players not only is a gamble, but rather a waste of money. £70million could probably get you Sneidjer AND Sanchez, heck it might even get you Ronaldo, but Liverpool have blown that money on nothing more than 'potential', and midtable quality to add to it.
On the flipside, we've collectively spent around £20million on the two most promising English CBs, one of which has already had an outstanding début season. And Michael Owen was a master-stroke considering how much we spent for him, had he been something like a £10-15million signing then I would have tremendously pissed off, as would most fans I believe.
Chances are Liverpool have no real funds left to spend on established players, whereas on the other hand despite us already having spent around £50milion (assuming Jones, Young and De Gea are as good as ours), we're still expected to sign a world class midfielder.
In short - its a very poor transfer strategy by King Kenny, had he only signed Charlie Adam out of that list then I'd agree that its relatively risk-free, but to blow your whole budget on players of that mould is just hilariously inept.
Really this point of view is retarded.
Many people were calling Henderson average when he was rumored to be signing for us, and that hasn't changed when he has signed for Liverpool. Minority of the fans think he is a great talent and I don't think their opinion would've changed if Liverpool have signed him.
I also post on some other forums, and nearly everyone is laughing at Liverpool for signing him for 20Mil, I guess they're all biased.
Also regarding the Micheal Owen signing, you're just rewriting history just to prove yourself as being unbaised, many people are still not convinced with Owen and I'm pretty sure that not many people have called it a masterstroke.
If you rate Adams then fine go rate him, just don't sprout this rubbish about yourself being unbaised and all.
This is a strange signing from Liverpool. Surely now with Henderson midfield is the last area they need to be strengthening?
Adam is 25. You know that, right? Not much room for development there. Comparing him to Jones, Smalling and Hernandez is quite laughable really. Jones and Smalling is probably the future English internationals and Hernandez was a a bit of a gamble which turned out exceptionally well, and also cost a fraction of what they paid for Carroll.
I wouldn't really classify Henderson, Carroll and Adam as "best British talent" either really, but I suppose that's largely down to personal view.
There's no doubt that Adam got a quality left foot. Probably one of the best passers in the league - might even be the best now Scholes retired. But what else has he got? He's quite slow and if it wasn't for his passing and set-piece ability I'm not even sure if he'd be PL quality really. Might of course develop with a good training set-up, but if he doesn't I'm pretty certain he won't improve the current Liverpool midfield. Probably a decent player to put on when chasing a win though.
Getting Adam isn't a gamble, I'll give you that. You know exactly what you get. I see that in a bad way (for the reasons above), but you probably see it as a positive thing.
Thank feck.
Anybody got a link to the actual story or are we basing it on the betting being suspended?
Highly unlikely that such players would go to Liverpool though. Think Torres will be the last big name to sign for them for quite a while. I get your point though.
nothing ok Skysports yet
They've got a fair few CM options if this goes ahead:
Gerrard, Lucas, Meireles, Spearing, Poulsen, Aquilani, Henderson and Adam.
You would think Spearing, Poulsen & Aquilani wont get a look-in.
Gerrard, Lucas, Meireles, Spearing, Poulsen, Aquilani, Henderson and Adam.
You would think Spearing, Poulsen & Aquilani wont get a look-in.
SSN just said they'd be an update on him in the next hour, I suspect they'll confirm it any minute now
Exactly.
There's a huge difference to spending 30 odd million on the two best young centre backs in the league and one of the best young forwards in world football than there is to what Liverpool are doing. They are massively overpaying for average premier league players in the hope that a british spine will lead them back to their glory days and missing the part of the plan that it is necessary for them to actually be talented enough to compete at the highest level.
Do you actually believe that?
He's not even top five. In fact I wouldn't have him in my top ten.
To bring fat Charlie Adam into a debate about the best passers in a league that contains the likes of Fabregas is just not right.
It's absolutely hilarious how overrated Adam's passing is by some people. Possibly the best passer in the league now Scholes has retired? Have a word with yourself.
It's also hilarious how quickly a player gets regarded as shit when Liverpool sign him.
His passing range is quite fantastic, you'll have to admit that. I was thinking more long-range/cross-fields passes when I wrote my comment. I don't think many players are much better passers than Adam, they just seem better because of the movement they have as well, which makes some of their passes seem better as they get into better positions. That's how I see it at least.
Not nearly as hilarious as how people continually come out with comments like this in spite of the fact that opinions have remained the same no matter who he is linked with.
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