What about his eight assists for a relegated side full of championship players?
Fairly decent season for him I think.
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What about his eight assists for a relegated side full of championship players?
Fairly decent season for him I think.
It was for him personally.
I never questioned that.
He just isn't good enough for us.
I think some people are reading too much into Fergie's comment that his corners are worth £10m alone.
Probably just Fergie having a bit of fun and trying to add a couple of million on to what the Scousers would have to pay.
He definitely would.. I agree.. But I doubt we will be after him..
Maybe not. We'd never know unless he signs for a top club.
Manchester United are already planning how to lure Adams to United
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Adams could be useful to Liverpool as long as they get him onto a tough training regime and get him to lose about 25lbs which would improve his mobility and stamina.
He can play an excellent through ball and with Suarez movement and Carrol strength at corners could be a useful trio.
He can play an excellent through ball and with Suarez movement and Carrol strength at corners could be a useful trio.
Why do people STILL insist on calling him Adams? is it so difficult to get his very simple name right?
No doubt they'd imporve his fitness.
Read last week that the goalkeeper Gilks had been extremely critical of the back room set up at Blackpool ststaing that they tried to do things on the cheap and lacked professionalism.
People claiming his passing is overrated are just not serious. I mean, he was the midfield general of one of the sides given some of the best plaudits in the entire league for its attacking game during the season and all their play went through him. There is no way in hell that would have occurred if his passing was as poor as some are trying to make out.
They were given plaudits for being the plucky little newcomers that nobody expected anything from and actually having a go, which nobody saw coming. They were also sussed out after not too long and went on to get relegated; are you seriously trying to argue they were amongst the best rated midfields in the league? Expectation is everything, when people don't have any it doesn't take much to be pleasantly surprised which leads to plaudits.
This.
No. I'm arguing they had one of the best attacking games in the league. And their entire attacking game was built on his passing skills. To claim that the plaudits they got for their attacking game is because ''nobody saw it coming'' is plain disrespectful to them and in my opinion bullshit. For they played the exact same football in the championship. It was a surprise to no one that they were such an attacking side.
Also their attacking game was never ''sussed out'' by anyone. It's their defending that got them relegated.
The fact that he wasn't even voted Blackpool's player of the year says a-lot, I would imagine that the Blackpool fans have seen more of him than any of us. He was also dropped for 2 games during the end of season run-in, again that speaks volumes.
I am sorry but if Charlie Adam has somehow become good enough for us then the World really has gone mad.
As I pointed out earlier in the thread, Graham Alexander scored around 5 goals less than Adam managed this season - during the 09/10 season, because he was their penalty taker. Adam scored a smashing 3 goals from open play this season. So we would be buying him because of his ability to take set pieces, surely not, Chief?
He is coming off the back of one good season in the Premiership and he is all of a sudden 'top four' material? Come off of it, how many one season wonders has there been?
His passing is massively overrated, again though if you want to judge a player on what they show on MOTD, then by all means be my guest. Watch 90 minutes of Charlie Adam and you will see how pedestrian, ineffective and wasteful he can be.
You'd think four of those guys were on high-scoring teams with a Golden Boot winner and two other forwards with double-digit goal totals and Nani etc, while the fifth played on a relegated side that had very little quality or something.
I'm pretty sure he only missed 3 league games for Blackpool all season, all of which were suspensions (one game for 5 yellows, then two games for 10 yellows).
Balls. Our CM's have struggled to score goals for a few years now and its been one of our main weakness' and its not through lack of effort/shots.
I'm not suggesting we should go out and sign him. I think there are better options on the market, but I think it's incredibally naive to suggest that he wouldn't improve our squad like many in here are. He's a decent player, has a goal threat with decent passing skills and a very good cross, takes a mean penalty too!
Those are skills that our current CM's struggle with.
How many from open play?
Kevin Nolan 12 goals 2 assists
Luka Modric 3 goals 2 assists
Joey Bartaon 4 goals 9 assists
Going by your logic then should we not be going for Barton and Nolan instead of Modric?
He's better than Fletcher & Gibson but still not for me.
If you have decided to be stupid enough to assume that I have only watched MOTD to judge Adam, there's nothing further for us to discuss.
Well, that's not even true. He was suspended for 2 games..
I still don't get how people can be so clueless about completely different styles of players and can still make sweeping statements about who is better.
Adam is in no way comparable to Fletcher or Gibson in terms of the role he plays.
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I've fixed the thread title. The bumps were starting to annoy me.
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I agree with that, Fergie loves winding up the scousers in mostly a discreet
manner, and i get the impression he likes Holloway and Blackpool, so it wouldn't surprise me at all if Fergie was indulging himself, given an opportunity too good to miss, where he could both help Blackpool keep hold of Adam and annoy the feck out of the Dippers at the same time! :
Priceless!
I agree with that, Fergie loves winding up the scousers in mostly a discreet
manner, and i get the impression he likes Holloway and Blackpool, so it wouldn't surprise me at all if Fergie was indulging himself, given an opportunity too good to miss, where he could both help Blackpool keep hold of Adam and annoy the feck out of the Dippers at the same time! :
Priceless!
Probably very trueI thought he was frankly abysmal during the second half of the season. Everything became the Charlie Adam show, perhaps through frustration at not being allowed to move. He really did stop becoming a team player and went into Steven Gerrard mode where he tried to be everywhere, do everything, write the them tune, sing the theme tune, and just ended up being a talented player but without any direction or sense of purpose. It was as if after January the only thing that became important to Charlie Adam was Charlie Adam.
Thank feck the thread titles been changed. I've been checking this out every hour of every day in sheer panic at the thought of us signing him. Decent player but a luxury item we could do without
How would someone considered a 'luxury item' send you into panic at the thought of us signing him?
I don't get that.
You haven't got a clue.
Luxury Item - ''An item that is not necessary for living, but is deemed as highly-desired within a culture or society''
You get it now?
Well he has, he's got an opinion. There are elements of Adam's game that is better than Fletcher's including passing range and set pieces.
It's not as if we're comparing Alan Smith to Messi here.
Not really no. That means everyone we're linked to you'll be panicking in case we buy them as by definition they'll be a 'luxury' as we don't need anyone to carry on 'living', as a club.
Charlie Adam... Solid Premiership player. Nothing more outside the Premiership ? Only one way to find out.
Good Luck to him if he won't go to Pool as I hold respect for him and his abilities.
Good Luck to him if he won't go to Pool as I hold respect for him and his abilities.
Why? They admittedly perform different roles, but they are still centre midfielders, and the roles they would perform are indicative of their respective capabilities.
Players are mostly employed in positions that suit their particular strengths, Adam is a creative, goalscoring midfielder and that would not change no matter who he plays for. Fletcher is a versatile, hard working central midfielder, but if he went to Everton he would not then suddenly be employed as a playmaker, because he simply does not have the talent to adequately fulfill such a role.
For that reason i believe Fletcher and Adam can be compared to a point, as both play as central midfielders, not in a specialist role. Fletcher is not a DM. He is a CM as is Adam, the roles they perform however reflect their varying skill sets. Based on ability i think it would be reasonable to presume Adam would be probably more effective playing Fletcher's role, than Fletcher would playing Adam's.
I personally would have to attribute that to individual talent.
The thing with hard work, however commendable, it only gets you so far. If someone with better ability matches that hard work, then it quickly becomes a question of quality. This is why Barca beat most teams, most of the time, and so do we.
There are element's of my game that are better than Fletcher's, but it doesn't make me a better player.
If we signed Charlie Adam, we'd be even more overrun in midfield than we sometimes are now. One decent PL season doesn't make him a world beater. He was an average player before and he hasn't improve half as much as people think. His stats look good, but he had as many poor performances as he did good towards the end of the season.
If we are going to sign a central midfielder, I hope to god that he is better than Charlie Adam.
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