HAHAHA. Get to feck.
He'll go to a midtable PL team for around £9m. Villa or something like that - that's his level.
He'll go to a midtable PL team for around £9m. Villa or something like that - that's his level.
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the official site will mention the story that has the highest valuation.
they did that last summer as well.. we ended up being linked to players worth a collective 2b iirc which was hilarious
they did that last summer as well.. we ended up being linked to players worth a collective 2b iirc which was hilarious
Sums it up perfectly.
2b? 
Manchester United Official Web Site - The Gossip2b?
Running total: 106 in (estimated £1.877billion), 25 out (estimated £174.5million, including loans and swaps)
already at 183m this summer
I am not all for us signing Adam but your point about him being not ready to play for a big club due to increased pressure and intensity is wrong.
Antonio Valencia was playing for Wigan and when he moved here but he was brilliant even in his first season. He also jumped from a relegation threatened team to the best team in England.
I'd take him as a squad player.
Adam would get loads of game time as a United first team squad player.
Haven't we got too much of those already?
No. We have room for one more. We've lost Hargreaves.
Adam is several leagues below Hargreaves.
I'm sure Adam would be more successful with us than Hargreaves!
Cleverley > Charlie Adam
maybe not as a player straight away, but if there was an opening in the squad for a backup midfielder, I'd rather that went to Tom and not Charlie Adam
maybe not as a player straight away, but if there was an opening in the squad for a backup midfielder, I'd rather that went to Tom and not Charlie Adam
Adam is a great passer and an even better set piece taker. Especially the latter would be useful for us IMO. He is not my first choice, but I see no reason to underestimate him.
It's fair to assume he'll end up at Liverpool as they bid for him twice in the January window.
Hargreaves should have been a first teamer and not a squad player. I think that Carrick, Fletcher, Anderson, Cleverley and Gibson are good enough for the squad player role. We need someone who fits in nicely and add quality to the side not someone who would be world class only if we're competing in the eating the most pies contest.
Dunno they're in for Jordan Henderson now, can't see them going for both.
A 'great passer', you are kidding, right? Scholes was a 'great passer', are you saying that Adam is just as good a passer as the best in the World? I make this assumption as I would class the likes of Xavi, Sneijder and Iniesta (to name a-few) as 'great passers'.
Adam is full of hollywood balls, have you watched him play for a full 90 minutes many times? If so, then you will know that he gives the ball away far too much to ever even be considered close to being a 'great passer'. Maybe when you watch MOTD and they show some of his passes that come off - he may look like he is all that, but they often fail to show how many times during a match that he loses possession with ridiculous 40 or 50 yard passes that don't come off. His fitness levels are also questionable, he seems to drift well off the pace after around the 70th minute mark.
I am sorry but I am sick to death of players like Adam all of a sudden being considered good enough to play for our club, Adam isn't even fit to lace the likes of Scholes's boots. If he were to come here then I think it would signal all the wrong things. Why all of a sudden when players like Adam have a good season are they considered good enough for the top clubs? The hype surrounding certain players is just plain wrong.
What is all this 'squad' player nonsense? We have enough 'squad' players and I certainly would rather see our youngsters that just won the FA Youth Cup get a chance rather than, Adam. This summer is most likely going to be about bringing in quality players to improve our already great squad, not dross like, Adam.
He is an average player and belongs at an average club.
They can havethe pair of them for all I care. Would still rather see our lads brought through.
Fergie said we'd probably need to make marquee signings and spend big if necessary when Scholes and Giggs retire.
Suggesting that we'd replace Scholes with Charlie Adam is just ridiculous.
Suggesting that we'd replace Scholes with Charlie Adam is just ridiculous.
Indeed.
I'm amazed by some of the comments about Charlie Adam to be honest. He was one of the star players in the PL last year, and played very well against some very good teams - including us, despite being in a team full of average players.
Perhaps he's not the next Paul Scholes but I tend to believe that when a player moves to a better club with better coaches and better players around him he'll more than likely improve. Never any guarantee but he looks to have the neccessary skills.
Can't help but think that if he was foreign or playing for a more fashionable club people's opinions would be a bit different.
Personally think he'll move on and do very well in the PL for a few years yet and someone may get a bargain.
But would he improve us? No. We have players who can do just as well as him in the squad already. I'd rather see our youh players be developed and the introduction of the likes of Pogba and Tunincliffe.
Please stop bumping this thread, it scares the shit out of me!
I have no doubt he would improve our squad.
Indeed. If he had a foreign name...
I don't think he'd improve our squad and it's got feck all to do with his name or where he's from.
well said sir
He's not a great passer, and being good at set pieces on its own is not a reason to sign somebody.
He would have rotated just as much as all our other first team players. Don't confuse being a fringe player with being a squad player.
I'd take a mature version of Gibson named Adam over the current Gibson for a first team squad role any day.
He's a very good passer and his setpieces are excellent, 12 goals, 7 assists. From a CM thats pretty damn good.
I don't think anyone here thinks he's our Scholes replacement, but he would enhance our squad.
Premiership Stats:
Carrick: 0 goal, 0 assist
Scholes: 1 goal, 3 assist
Anderson: 1 goal, 2 assist
Gibson: 0 goal, 1 assist
Adam: 12 goal, 8 assist
Nah wouldn't improve our squad.
He's capable of decent passes, but the ones he pulls off get loads of attention and the umpteen he sprays to the opposition are overlooked because he's playing for Blackpool and he's not under much (any) scrutiny. Somebody already alluded to the fact that highlight reels make him look a let better in this regard than he really is, his passing overall is distinctly average.
I've not denied his set pieces are very good, I've said that on its own that's not a reason to sign somebody. For crying out loud, since when did Manchester United look to buy somebody just because they could take a free kick or corner? If good set pieces were part of an overall package which was worthy of playing for us then fine, but with him it's not.
He takes every set piece for Blackpool including penalties, which he wouldn't do at United. Stats don't tell the full story of how good a player is.
How many of those goals were from set pieces out of interest? He'd not be our penalty taker, but could offer a good alternative for freekicks.
Every situation is unique and I wouldn't compare the two. Ones young/athlectic. The other flopped at rangers/is chunky and would have a harder/demanding role to fill (in my opinion) ie central midfield replacing a legend.
Graham Alexander scored around 9 goals with Burnley in the Premiership in the 09/10 season. I would imagine that the majority of them were penalties, so those stats really mean nothing.
Adam only scored 3 goals (I think) from open play, so we would only be signing him for his set pieces, and he also wouldn't be our penalty taker.
If that is the case sure we should invest in Ian Harte.
Depends. He's better that Darron Gibson who played regularly last year so at the moment he arguably would. Again it could be said he may step up a level in a better side and become a propoer first team regular.
Its all well and good wanting to rely on young kids but the standard of the PL is a million miles away from youth or reserve team level both physically and technically. The vast majority don't make it as is shown by the fact that other than Darren Fletcher we've only had squad players come through the ranks in the last ten years.
For what its worth I'd like to think Fergie will target top players for midfield this year so I doubt he'd want Charlie Adam - that said, when you consider United paid £7 million for a player from the portuguese second division, a club may get a classy and established premiership player in Adam for not much more.
I judge a player on what I've seen and I was impressed by Adam last year who stepped up a gear when very few people thought he could. I'd take him at United even if he wouldn't be playing every week.
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