I would love him to stay, but I understand PSR will limit our business if we don't sell. If it could fund our Neves move, that would be a fantastic squad building move - especially as we'd expect Mount to play a hell of a lot more than he did this season.
Bruno Fernandes Out?
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When you selfishly take everything even quarter pot shots you'd gonna hit high numbers but the amount of turnover would be detrimental to the team as a whole.
It shows from our minus goal differences. Maybe not due to him alone but a functional midfield would be a greater sum of its part as brighton, West ham, and half the league has shown that having a mediocre player with a feasible tactics is much better than having bruno
I've given up on Mount being fit sadly
Everybody has a price but the only reason to sell him would be to upgrade on him which we aren't doing for less than £150m minimum and I don't see Saudi spending that or additionally him wanting to go there.
Mate, no hyperbole, I genuinely think he might be done. The injuries he's had in the last 18 months is akin to Hargreaves or someone like that. It's incredible, all kinds of muscle injuries that keep him out for weeks and months. I'll be amazed if he plays 20 games for us next season.
I'd be open to selling Bruno if I could trust that we'd replace him well. Mount might work in a system but his injury record has been poor.
If it's the player that wants to go then you wait for the right offer to come in and sell. He's got the ability to stake a claim in a team that regularly tops the table or thereabouts.
Fernandes supplying chances to Kane could be dangerous for example.
If it's the player that wants to go then you wait for the right offer to come in and sell. He's got the ability to stake a claim in a team that regularly tops the table or thereabouts.
Fernandes supplying chances to Kane could be dangerous for example.
We don’t need to upgrade on him as we never had a player like him before he came.
What we need to do is change our approach if he leaves. Creativity should come from the with and our focus should be to build a midfield who can not only dominate possession but dominate the end to end battle.
Bruno leaves us exposed defensively and he doesn’t help keep possession. Just negatives to the positives his G/A bring.
So our aim shouldn’t be to try and find someone who can provide his G/A or energy but someone/players who can cover his negatives.
The main issue with replacing Bruno is that we don't have a replacement. And Florian Wirtz isn't available this summer.
I don't disagree with that but by that same logic we would have to replace Rashford and maybe Garnacho as they don't look to create which feels like too much of a realistic outcome. I would personally move on Rashford before Bruno as I've seen evidence of Bruno playing a different way when surrounded by more patient players (For his NT)
You don't replace him with Wirtz, you replace him with Neves and a 6 to make a proper, balanced midfield 3.
I'm willing to chalk this down to bad luck this season
I agree with you about Bruno but not about Rashford. You should have never mention Rashford’s name in the same argument as Bruno in your initial post.
How about the season before?
I don't really think Neves works as a pure 10. If we change system then I can see your point as Neves seems better defensively, but Wirtz is more creative.
If Bruno does leave, I hope it's because he wants to move on to a club that can win something of importance. If we're actively interested in selling him, then it's the height of stupidity. Either way, Bruno leaving is a massive step backwards and there's no two ways about it. Irreplaceable.
We're losing games without DVB and Elanga too, doesn't mean they were good enough.
Plenty of people on the CAF should be celebrating after seeing how great we look without him. Sell Bruno, win the league. That's how it works, right?
you don't think Bruno is good enough?
Florian Wirtz isn't going to be going to the 8th placed team in England anyway. Much more likely to end up at City when DeBruyne's motor gives out.
We are kidding ourselves if we think we can replace Bruno with similar quality. The team will have to be reshaped to accommodate his loss. Heaven knows how we will attract the requisite quality in our current shape.
Only god knows
The only justification to sell him is PSR or else he wants out. If we managed to sell Bruno Varane and Casemiro and brought in 5 players with high potential then we might end up being a more rounded team overall.
Dreams can be buy
The better idea is to do what Liverpool did essentially and sell our "Coutinho" and build an actual team that is a bit more workmanlike. We don't necessarily need quality to replace him. If the person that comes in helps the team function better then his contribution to the team can be lessened by the team overall contributing more.
Uncertainty over who the manager will be next season helps nourish these rumours
Without Bruno rashford, the team is basically garnacho, hojlund, antony in attack with mount. It is basically a top half of the table team at best.
If he wants to leave then let him go, he really isn't that good to warrant the drama. I'd use the money to build a better balanced midfield, but considering how bad we are at buying that's a big ask nowadays.
he's soon to be 30, no CL next season....if you can get the right amount of money for him, then you sell him.
I do wonder if this is intended as a message that he doesn't want to stay if Ten Hag stays.
If the players have little belief in the manager then why would they not at least try to leave. At some point you have to make a decision best for your career and he could still do a lot better than us.
Who's going to buy a crock?
Perhaps not for being a first team regular for the type of football it looks like we want to play. He should be one of the last out the door though. For me he concedes possession way too much. He may do much better with this though with an improved squad and better team performances so he doesn't feel he has to create something all the time. He's been our best creative output for a while and probably shouldn't be sold until we have someone who can show a similar level of creativity but also not concede possession as much, or rejig the first team so creativity comes from more places like the wingers, FBs and deeper midfielders.
He wasn't before joining us though
Under ETH we'd look even more clueless without Bruno, so the prospect of losing Bruno and keeping ETH is frightening. And this is coming from somebody that recognises all of Bruno's issues. I don't think we'd look too dissimilar to LVG United right now if we lost Bruno.
No he wouldn't. But we have a season now to show progress and that is Ineos most important job, to make us a desired destination again.
One bad year doesn't make him a crock. He's played 300 games in 7 years.
Nobody said anything about being good enough though did they? We’re talking about people saying he’s one of the main problems.
There’s only 1 player who I wouldn’t mind replacing him with right now and that’s Eze from palace. He’s probably a better system player but he still won’t produce the goals and assist that Bruno does.
I wonder if we bought Mount knowing that we would try and shift Bruno this year. We promised to give him ample time this year and allow him to settle in properly but he just got unlucky with a few injuries.
Ah my bad then. I was responding to you saying they're not the problem, rather than not the main problem. I think they're part of the problem, just not the most important part to resolve this summer unless an opportunity comes up that's too good to refuse.