He is the worst captain we've had. (Along with Maguire)
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Bruno Fernandes Out?
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He is the worst captain we've had. (Along with Maguire)He’s class. In a better United side he’d be one of the most productive players in the world. He has his flaws, obviously, but there aren’t any players who are as decisive as he is who have their flaws focussed on as much as he does.
Yes please. He probably could go to another top league but we are going to see players going to Saudi at younger ages while the money is on the table. I don't blame anybody 'throwing their career away' to go over to a nothing league to make stupid money even by footballer money standards.
Nonsense...by the way which players would elevate most top teams in your opinion?
Selling him because he’s a “problem” would be silly. Selling him to cash in a high point and develop the team from the ground up through smart investments would be good business. We struggle with or without him and we’re not competing among the top anytime soon so the debate means little to me.
If a bid of £80m comes in from Saudi you have to consider it at the very least. Bruno is a key part of the team but that's serious money for a player of his age.
I think if the money is spent right such a sale helps our position massively.
Bruno is good but not so good where we are in a position to turn down silly bids. This isn't a guy single handedly dragging us to lofty heights.
What's the point of continuing any discussion when you are acting all high and mighty .
He's never been anywhere near close to world class. When we face top teams, he's routinely one of the worst players on the pitch.
He's been okay when we face lower opposition because his inability to take care of the ball costs us less (even though he's still infuriating), but, against the good teams, him constantly giving the ball away whether through poor passing or being physically weak under pressure usually costs us.
So many people missing the above.
If we were good, it would make sense to keep him. We are in a big rebuild. What's the point of keeping him? I'd see it as a win win for both of us.
We deserve all our miseries
Wouldn't label anyone stupid, a bit of a harsh term to use. People have their opinions but agree that he has character, is a leader and senior figure for the younger core and loves the badge. I would keep him IMO if we can.
More or less agreed just like to add that Paradox of Bruno is he can't be your main man in the team if you want to be top team and if he isn't your main man then there is no point of him being in the team .
I would consider it as well, but actively wanting him out because you believe he's a mediocre player is very different to considering an 80m offer for a soon-to-be 30 year old player.
I disagree with your last paragraph. Which player single handedly drags this United team to major trophies or whatever you mean by lofty heights? If anything, Bruno is the player who elevated us all by himself in the last 11 years. The biggest impact by a single player at least since RVP.
Because it's such a silly argument against Bruno. Which player elevates any team single-handedly in world football? There's very few of them, but Bruno has actually been that player for us since his arrival. Also, the only two teams in the world where I can confidently say he wouldn't make the first eleven are Bayern Munich and Manchester City.
Depends on the fee and possible replacement but I think we hold onto players for too long rather than cashing in and using the money to strengthen the side. Bruno is 30 next season a huge fee should be considered
A good fee and you have to move him on, hate to say it.
Please read what I wrote I said either elevate top teams or atleast help them maintain the standards and no he hasn't been that player we have been more or less being the same team in terms of results since his arrival with the added humiliation of getting dumped at Group stages in Champions league both times .
Uh-huh, so if Bruno was transferred to a top team, he somehow "wouldn't help them maintain the standards"
Okay.
Not to mention that despite being poor throughout our entire period post Fergie, regular big game pummelings did not occur until we made him our main man. I don't think it's a coincidence. Playing top teams where your entire game is centred around a player who gives the ball away for fun and is incredibly weak under pressure and in tight spaces was always going to be a recipe for disaster.
He wouldn't I am pretty confident about that but lucky for you we will never find it out and you can continue to hold on to the notion that he is some great player .
Oh I don't think it's a coincidence either but don't think many are ready for that conversation .
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Least of our worries really but set pieces are a big part of football and his are horrendous. I think he cares as much as anyone. And has been as good as anyone we've had the last 10 years. But feel like he's only gonna get worse from now.
29 years old and could bring us some really needed cash.
I don't even know what that means, but it's some made up nonsense anyways
If you think Bruno isn't a top player who would be instrumental for most top sides you're just a casual
Have a nice day
Exactly. People are reigniting the Bruno Out debate off the back of a notoriously unreliable source. If Custis said it was snowing outside then I'd wear my sandals.
I'd say the opposite if anything
Got to be the only 'world class' player that doesn't ever have a stand out performance against the top team. If 80-100 million bid comes than he should be let go. Actively selling is different matter, Rashford should be on the top of that list.
Bruno is first name on the team sheet for me. For his workrate, creativity and he is an example for the others like Mainoo and Garnacho.
Any player who gives it his all is high on my list, especially if they are one of the best attacking midfielders in the world.
Any player who gives it his all is high on my list, especially if they are one of the best attacking midfielders in the world.
most top teams wouldn’t sign him because no one really plays with a traditional 10 anymore. He can’t play in a midfield 3 and he’s not great on the wing either so he pigeon holes your options as a team.
Some of you lot deserve Donny van de Beek and Mason Mount as starters.
They wouldn't even start for Everton.
They wouldn't even start for Everton.
Its amazing how this is.
80 mil, then we are only 20 away from Neves.
Harry Kane was guaranteed silverware in Munich, that worked out well!
All depends on who they replace him with but I'd be very concerned about goals and assists without him in the team but if they're committed to a rebuild then it makes sense.
It depends on two things for me:
(1) How many positions to do we plan to buy replacements for in the summer?
(2) Which manager we hire. If we go for someone short term like Tuchel in order to chase CL football for next season then there is no point selling Bruno. If we hire someone younger and want to build for the long term then it might be wise to let him go for a hefty fees and invest that money in younger players.
(1) How many positions to do we plan to buy replacements for in the summer?
(2) Which manager we hire. If we go for someone short term like Tuchel in order to chase CL football for next season then there is no point selling Bruno. If we hire someone younger and want to build for the long term then it might be wise to let him go for a hefty fees and invest that money in younger players.
It's not just Custis, two other reporters have mentioned Saudi interest. One reporter did say Saudi are not optimistic a deal can be made this summer and it will likely just be legwork for a move next summer.
If we consider Bruno now to be on a downwards trajectory (for whatever reason) then we need to do the sensible thing and cash in. However, we must have a high class replacement lined up to replace him. Look at how Madrid replaced Casemiro with two youngsters of massive potential.
My concern is that no one at the club has the ability to a) decide if Bruno’s best days are behind him b) can identify world class potential to replace him.
My concern is that no one at the club has the ability to a) decide if Bruno’s best days are behind him b) can identify world class potential to replace him.
Our best player. The only one apart from Martinez who deserves to be our captain. But at his age, he deserves to win major league (PL or La liga or Serie A) or even champions league.
If city or arsenal coming, we should ask for £200m. Other clubs in PL won’t be able to give Bruno the trophy he deserves so I won’t even consider.
If other European clubs coming, we should ask a more reasonable price like £100m. He’s worth that much!
If Saudi comes, ask for £180m.
If we are getting those money, I will use it to buy Joao Neves and a lone no 6 to build our long term midfield trio.
Mainoo - DM - Neves
If city or arsenal coming, we should ask for £200m. Other clubs in PL won’t be able to give Bruno the trophy he deserves so I won’t even consider.
If other European clubs coming, we should ask a more reasonable price like £100m. He’s worth that much!
If Saudi comes, ask for £180m.
If we are getting those money, I will use it to buy Joao Neves and a lone no 6 to build our long term midfield trio.
Mainoo - DM - Neves
We have a new team from Ineos for these very issues - they may not all be in position yet but you can be sure that they are busy identifying and working on the ins and outs.
Bruno won’t be leaving this summer unless we want it - too many ahead of him needing to leave first.
Bruno can play as a deep play maker as well like Scholes used to do as he became older. He is a great footballer. He can play for a long time.