Bruno Fernandes Out?

I’m in the minority here but I think it’s time to sell.
Our midfield needs to be reconstructed from the bottom up and we need a new way of playing.
 
Feck off, he should be going nowhere. Our best player by a mile. Need to be a seriously huge bid to even consider it when you think about what we would be losing. And yes, from a selfish PoV I'd be gutted if he's sold.
 
For me selling him would be wrong decision. Hes been the only one thats been even close to consistent in a couple seasons of madness. Hasnt been amazing but you would expect his form to drop a bit with the team being so bad. Hes head and shoulders the best player we have.
 
I think it's mad that so many want to sell him. While he's no Charlton or Cantona, he's the best performing player in a horribly inconsistent and gutless squad. There's 20 players who should leave well before he does.
 
I don't blame him tbh. He's given 4 and a half years, its clear this team isn't going to challenge let alone win any significant trophies. If I were him i'd be looking to leave too.
 
Ayoba said:
I don't blame him tbh. He's given 4 and a half years, its clear this team isn't going to challenge let alone win any significant trophies. If I were him i'd be looking to leave too.
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I don't think United are that lucky to be honest , I just hope United's new management has smarts to realise it's time to move him on .
 
If he leaves he leaves. He’s given us the best years of his career, he has been our best post SAF player by some margin, and he has very little to show for it.

Can’t begrudge a player like that who wants to leave to either try to win something significant or get an easier salary. Hopefully we can get a good transfer fee if he does leave.
 
I’d consider it. Liverpool didn’t sell Salah at his peak and look what’s happens- they will probably only get half now from the Saudis or what they may have got before
 
Good to see we’re still losing games without him and Rashford. So them 2 are clearly not the problem.
 
DJ_21 said:
Good to see we’re still losing games without him and Rashford. So them 2 are clearly not the problem.
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Those two, Casemiro, Varane, and Martial are our top 5 earners. In addition, they are also considered as our senior players. Therefore, they are expected to be world class players. World class players are supposed to make the other players better. If they don’t perform or even not playing then of course we are still losing the games.
 
DJ_21 said:
Good to see we’re still losing games without him and Rashford. So them 2 are clearly not the problem.
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By your logic, they are not the answer either so why not get rid and save £600k a week.
 
If INEOS are thinking of a SERIOUS rebuild (no more Casemiro/Eriksen/Ronaldo etc kind of short term signings), then I can see that hapenning.

He is a good player but as I've stated many times on here, he forces certain team setup in which he needs a platform to shine. Oleball got the best out of him, but we should not aspire to be that team anymore.

He's not an #8, nor it makes sense to play him anywhere else than #10 with little defensive / buildup responsibilities. ETH made this mistake this season and the stubbornness on the system is the hill he died on (he's as good as gone, it's just not official yet).
 
If Bruno chooses to leave, midtable finishes will likely become the norm for us, and Garnacho and Mainoo will be looking for the door soon enough.
 
I can see the argument for cashing in due to his age and profile, despite him being one of our better players. However, even with this new regime, I would want to see incoming replacements before we even entertain it as, until proven otherwise, I'm not sure I trust the club to get it right.
 
I would like to see how he contributes in a well structured offense to be honest. I thought we were going to get that with ETH but it turns out his football is just as chaotic as Ole's.

He's definitely not irreplaceable though so if we sell and reinvest wisely under Wilcox and Ashworth that will be totally fine with me. Aiming for a like-for-like is a pointless affair anyway as there's so few specialist 10s out there nowadays.
 
golden_blunder said:
I’d consider it. Liverpool didn’t sell Salah at his peak and look what’s happens- they will probably only get half now from the Saudis or what they may have got before
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Yes, but he’s had another 40GA season for them. Who could they have purchased who would have guaranteed that?
 
I don’t think we can sell Bruno currently. We have no one else who can create at his level. I can see us going back to that pre Bruno period when we look toothless without him if we were to lose him.
 
Martial said:
If Bruno chooses to leave, midtable finishes will likely become the norm for us, and Garnacho and Mainoo will be looking for the door soon enough.
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Bruno has been part of the worst United Premier League finish, in United PL history.

2021-2022 Bruno was ever present.
2023-2024 Bruno has been ever present.

You people act as if Bruno is some monster footballer

The guy has never been involved in a title race in his life, has never played in a Champions League QF game in his life

But in some world Bruno is some monster footballer, if Bruno had achieved what Bernardo Silva has achieved probably his fans would have built a statute for Bruno.

As others before him left, we need to move away from Bruno and build a team of players who can play very well consistently for over 30 games a season.

The 10- a good game a season - merchant footballers is who we should sell immediately, Bruno is part of this group
 
Depends how serious United are about implementing their new style of play from next season. And also of course, what that style of play will be.

I think Bruno Fernandes is comfortably our best player. But I think also that it is difficult to play certain ways with him in the team. For example, when we aim to counter attack against better teams, I don't think you can get the best out of him playing that way.
 
Where would he go? I don't see him leaving for Saudi. He won't go elsewhere in England. Italy cannot afford him. I don't see Bayern moving for him. I don't think Barcelona can afford him. Atletico maybe? That's about it.
 
Licha-Vidic said:
Bruno has been part of the worst United Premier League finish, in United PL history.

2021-2022 Bruno was ever present.
2023-2024 Bruno has been ever present.

You people act as if Bruno is some monster footballer

The guy has never been involved in a title race in his life, has never played in a Champions League QF game in his life

But in some world Bruno is some monster footballer, if Bruno had achieved what Bernardo Silva has achieved probably his fans would have built a statute for Bruno.

As others before him left, we need to move away from Bruno and build a team of players who can play very well consistently for over 30 games a season.

The 10- a good game a season - merchant footballers is who we should sell immediately, Bruno is part of this group
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I understand this point. But the problem is the replacements are 1-2 good games per season.
 
LawCharltonBest said:
Depends how serious United are about implementing their new style of play from next season. And also of course, what that style of play will be.

I think Bruno Fernandes is comfortably our best player. But I think also that it is difficult to play certain ways with him in the team. For example, when we aim to counter attack against better teams, I don't think you can get the best out of him playing that way.
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Can you explain what you mean here? Bruno excels at finding the runners up front during a counter attack.
 
His stock isn't very high right now and he's a different profile of no.10 but you could say we already have his replacement, in Mason Mount. Injuries have been a big problem for him and we will still need depth but I think Mount should be regarded as his replacement. We would need to look at different positions and how we work as a team to cover the creativity lost by Bruno.
 
Sell him and rebuild the midfield. We can get Rabiot on a free and sign Joao Neves or even Onana too with the wages we will save from Bruno and Cass.

No point having these star names in a rebuild it blurs the lines and makes progression harder. We will have a good start to the season and fans will be expecting a title charge because of the names we have. I.e. Bruno Fernandes. Let him have a champions league campaign with Bayern. He deserves it.
 
I think Ten Hag massively fecked up here by making Bruno captain and alienating/disrespecting one of his dressing room allies (De Gea) at the same time.

So disastrously you now have a player who Ten Hag is putting on a pedestal as dressing room leader, but who he has also turned against him.

Bruno gives 100% every game because that's the kind of player he is, but I don't get the impression he particularly likes or respects Ten Hag.

Ironically if he hadn't also taken the captaincy from Maguire (who he also publicly embarrassed) he'd probably have done a much better job of holding the dressing room together and backing the manager.

In terms of transfer I don't think Bruno will go to Saudi, but I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him leave and wouldn't blame him. It will hurt us by losing our main creative outlet and hardest worker but I think the future of our team relies on players with a totally different style.
 
I hope to god Bruno doesn’t read The Caf. Else he might think why do I bother busting my gut week in week out for this club when many of the fanbase would sell me for chump change at the drop of a hat.

Unless there’s an eye boggling huge fee from Saudi and I’m talking Coutinho levels then it’d be foolish to even entertain selling Bruno. Particularly before finding his replacement.

No big club sells their best players just to recoup some cash. That’s what small time clubs do.

Did Real Madrid sell us Casemiro and then scrabble around for his replacement? No, they signed Camavinga and Tchouemeni and then found their sucker in us. Bruno should be sold when he’s considered dispensable to the team and not before. And at the moment he’s last in a list of potential sellable assets, behind our youngsters eg Mainoo and Martinez.
 
noelyman said:
I hope to god Bruno doesn’t read The Caf. Else he might think why do I bother busting my gut week in week out for this club when many of the fanbase would sell me for chump change at the drop of a hat.

Unless there’s an eye boggling huge fee from Saudi and I’m talking Coutinho levels then it’d be foolish to even entertain selling Bruno. Particularly before finding his replacement.

No big club sells their best players just to recoup some cash. That’s what small time clubs do.

Did Real Madrid sell us Casemiro and then scrabble around for his replacement? No, they signed Camavinga and Tchouemeni and then found their sucker in us. Bruno should be sold when he’s considered dispensable to the team and not before. And at the moment he’s last in a list of potential sellable assets, behind our youngsters eg Mainoo and Martinez.
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and letting Bruno off to balance the books is a small club mentality. We just have to get rid of guys who don't put in a shift every week.
 
He gives his all and is a great player for us. He’s part of a VERY dysfunctional side and that I think plays a considerable part to why he looks less good now than he did. If he had great movement around him and was able to play with less sacrifices, he’d be putting up big numbers all round IMO. Yes he tried to force things a lot but when your team has zero creativity, movement or patterns of play, it must be SO frustrating.

don’t blame him if he wants to leave. It’s probably for the best as I think he’ll be past it before we are ready to win things
 
Born2Lose said:
By your logic, they are not the answer either so why not get rid and save £600k a week.
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Maybe not. But more people had them down as being the 2 biggest issues which clearly isn’t the case. I’d keep Fernandes and sell Rashford
 
JE-365 said:
Those two, Casemiro, Varane, and Martial are our top 5 earners. In addition, they are also considered as our senior players. Therefore, they are expected to be world class players. World class players are supposed to make the other players better. If they don’t perform or even not playing then of course we are still losing the games.
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Didn’t Bruno do that when he came in? We went unbeaten for the rest of the season after he signed. This has nothing to do with him. This is the players sulking and not wanting to play for yet another manager. I’d keep Bruno and sell the other 4 players you mentioned.
 
Surely we keep Bruno? Who are we gonna sign that puts up the same numbers as him? He’s one of the most creative in Europe but doesn’t get the assist for it because his team mates let him down for finishing
 
NLunited said:
Can you explain what you mean here? Bruno excels at finding the runners up front during a counter attack.
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Don't see it. I can't come loaded at you with stats, which is the go-to, because I don't care. I'll just know with my eyes that these are the games I know he'll be ineffective and he usually is. I think he's best when we're on the front foot and has a lot of the ball in the final third.
 
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