Bruno Fernandes Out?

Before Rodri came in to City, City points:

2015/16 - 81 pts
2016/17 - 93
2017/18 - 100
2018/19 - 98

After Rodri:
2019/20 - 99
2020/21 - 86
2021/22 - 93
2022/23 - 89

Does it mean Rodri to Man City is not important?

I'm just saying, we may or may not getting better by selling Bruno. But using points to justify ONE player's impact on team's progress is probably not the best way.
I'm just saying that Bruno isn't indispensable or irreplaceable. Nothing more.
 
Before Rodri came in to City, City points:

2015/16 - 81 pts
2016/17 - 93
2017/18 - 100
2018/19 - 98

After Rodri:
2019/20 - 99
2020/21 - 86
2021/22 - 93
2022/23 - 89

Does it mean Rodri to Man City is not important?

I'm just saying, we may or may not getting better by selling Bruno. But using points to justify ONE player's impact on team's progress is probably not the best way.

2019/20 stood out immediately as they didn't win the league. It was 81 points.

Do we need to check the accuracy of the rest? :wenger:
 
2019/20 stood out immediately as they didn't win the league. It was 81 points.

Do we need to check the accuracy of the rest? :wenger:

Oww.. my bad.
now I was assuming they won for 10 years in a row.

EDIT: damn. I made bad.. bad mistake.
 
No player in this united team is indispensable, we can easily make improvement in every position
 
No player in this united team is indispensable, we can easily make improvement in every position

Probably, if United have unlimited money and good recruitment system. Otherwise, that 200m they spent last summer beg to different.
 
Probably, if United have unlimited money and good recruitment system. Otherwise, that 200m they spent last summer beg to different.
Oh I know, just saying if an opportunity presents itself to make money from anyone, we should take it.
If someone pays 80m or thereabouts for Bruno, I strongly suggest we consider it for a 30year old that has divided opinion
 
Oh I know, just saying if an opportunity presents itself to make money from anyone, we should take it.
If someone pays 80m or thereabouts for Bruno, I strongly suggest we consider it for a 30year old that has divided opinion
For that kind of money, agreed it's hard to refuse.

Although on personal level, it would be a sad day.
 
Yeah to Barcelona for De Jong, makes sense a perma crock for a guy who is always fit. Something United could do.
 
If someone pays 80m or thereabouts for Bruno, I strongly suggest we consider it for a 30year old that has divided opinion

How many clubs in the world can pay 80 mill for a 30 year old who's not undeniably world class? How many of them would? And among the few remaining, would really Bruno with his hyper-competitive nature want to join them?

It ain't gonna happen. Only the Saudis and maybe PSG would be willing to give us a good price. But I can't see Bruno accepting it.
 
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Bruno can be frustrating but he's world class and a leader. How many crucial goals has he scored over the last few years. He deserves to be in a better team. he'd be one of the last players I would sell.
 
Seems like he might be going too.

I can't imagine he'd leave for Saudi now. He's a competitor. Too young for retirement. Now, if those Barca rumours are true that would be a very lovely next destination for him.
 
Saudi can express an interest in him all they like. He's still got at least a couple of years left at the top level and he doesn't strike me as the type of character to toss it off for a huge payday.
 
I can't see him going to Saudi Arabia just yet.

He's 30 in Sept, not getting any younger, no Champions League football next season and our squad is years from winning the league again.

I imagine he loves the club but its a good time for him to move on to one of Europes other big clubs and regulary win some trophies.

PSG maybe? He'll be guarenteed silverware there.
 
Is he really World Class though even with most loose definition of Being world class he doesn't even come close .
Not his fault he had to play with mcfred under ole and Eriken and casmeiro under ten hag.

He can play as part of a midfiled three with portugal instead of been given a free role with united.
Thats down to the manager. He is proper world class,
 
Our only world class player and people want him out, :lol: Seriously feck off

It isn't a case of "wanting" him out, it's just that there is a very sensible view that we are a few years away from competing so it is pointless wasting the tail end of a player's peak when there is a good amount of money that we can recoup and reinvest for the future (a player like João Neves for example).

By the time we are ready to compete again Bruno will be a spent force and we'll be cursing the fact we didn't take the money when we should have.
 


Can't blame him if it's true. Gave us best years of his career. Do think we'll struggle without him if we don't find proper replacement, that being Mount or someone else to compensate for Bruno's G/A.
 
It isn't a case of "wanting" him out, it's just that there is a very sensible view that we are a few years away from competing so it is pointless wasting the tail end of a player's peak when there is a good amount of money that we can recoup and reinvest for the future (a player like João Neves for example).

By the time we are ready to compete again Bruno will be a spent force and we'll be cursing the fact we didn't take the money when we should have.
Why can he play on the right of midfield for Portugal and in Uniteds team he gets a free role. That's down to the managers. He does not have a free tole with Portugal. He plays in a midfeild three like Pep and Klopp have done for yers,
 
Said it before on here that we need to start moving players on at the right time. Bruno being 29 soon to be 30 and with the amount of mileage on his legs, we should entertain any offers we get.
 
Why can he play on the right of midfield for Portugal and in Uniteds team he gets a free role. That's down to the managers. He does not have a free tole with Portugal. He plays in a midfeild three like Pep and Klopp have done for yers,

Great, approximately none of that addresses the points made in my post and you wasted one for your main forum posts doing it. Bravo.
 
It isn't a case of "wanting" him out, it's just that there is a very sensible view that we are a few years away from competing so it is pointless wasting the tail end of a player's peak when there is a good amount of money that we can recoup and reinvest for the future (a player like João Neves for example).

By the time we are ready to compete again Bruno will be a spent force and we'll be cursing the fact we didn't take the money when we should have.
Yeah I'd hate if the tail end of that peak was spent in Saudi Arabia rather than at the top level (not that United are anywhere near that) and he's been a tremendous servant for us but this is going to be a rebuild over multiple years in which the team is going to get younger and will not be very good for a while. If an offer came in from a team that is more competitive then I wouldn't begrudge him wanting to go and I wouldn't be opposed to doing it to fund moves for players who fit our timeline.
 
Great, approximately none of that addresses the points made in my post and you wasted one for your main forum posts doing it. Bravo.
Why would you want to replace one of the best midfielders in the world at 29? I can show you his stats if you want? Bruno is no where near the problem at United
 
Our only world class player and people want him out, :lol: Seriously feck off

A world class player would be full of interest from world class clubs across Europe. A terrible United team and there isn't an ounce of interest from any of the big clubs in Europe. So much for world class. He wouldn't get into any of the top teams across Europe.
 
Why would you want to replace one of the best midfielders in the world at 29? I can show you his stats if you want? Bruno is no where near the problem at United

Again, nowhere in my post did I suggest he was the problem? However, we are in need of a.rebuild and he is one of few assets we have that other clubs will be willing to part with good money for. With that, If through his sale you are able to fix multiple problems through smart recruitment then you are on to something.

It is basic asset management, something that teams like Bayern and Real Madrid have schooled us on repeatedly for the last couple of decades.
 
if its just Custis reporting this then why is everyone taking this seriously? lets wait until its reported by someone reliable at least.
 
Torn to be honest. As it is there's plenty of chaff that can be dealt with before him, and with that plenty of actual holes in the team and squad depth that feels much more important to resolve before you sell one of your best players and create another problem.

To me it should only be countenanced in the event of a very good offer and when a replacement is identified and the work has been undertaken to get that rolling. I struggle to believe at this point they're ready to make that move.

As much as I think a healthy Mount could be a very good player, he'd need more creativity around him so he isn't being charged with a task that he clearly isn't suited to fill. Also, risky move to rely on him being healthy.

In short, I just don't see it.
 
A world class player would be full of interest from world class clubs across Europe. A terrible United team and there isn't an ounce of interest from any of the big clubs in Europe. So much for world class. He wouldn't get into any of the top teams across Europe.
Bruno is seriously under-rated here.
 
Is he really World Class though even with loosest definition of world class it's hard to make a case for him .

What's your definition of world class? Because I can count on one hand the number of #10s better than him in the whole world
 
Our only world class player and people want him out, :lol: Seriously feck off

Agreed 100%

Shows the stupidity of the fanbase

Not to mention that on top of his ability, he's a leader, he has characeer, and loves the club
 
I hope he stays. He’s be at the very bottom of the list of people we should sell
 
What's your definition of world class? Because I can count on one hand the number of #10s better than him in the whole world

World Class for me would be the player that would get into most top teams starting Eleven and if not elevate them but would atleast help them maintain their current standards , Bruno is nowhere being that player .
 
If a big offer comes in we should consider it. Bruno has been a good signing but under the right set up he's replaceable. I don't think anyone will be able to replicate his productivity if we continue with chaos ball.

I don't think Bruno will want to move to Saudi anyone, so it would need a big European team to come in for him and I'm not sure who that team would be to be honest.

Barca - broke
Madrid - don't need him and would be deviating away from their transfer policy
PSG - maybe?
Bayern - Musiala

Maybe Juventus, Inter or Milan would take him but doubt they have the finances.