Bruno Fernandes Out?

It’s ridiculous that people would even be thinking about selling him. He’s probably our most consistent performer: puts his all into every game. One of the most creative in Europe, can run for 120 mins, he’s got such high energy. We ain’t replacing the numbers he puts up.
 
Remember the geese said:
If we were offered £100m+ it would be more ridiculous if we didn't sell him. A few weeks into the season he turns 30.
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Ye fair point. Money does usually talk. But it all depends who we replace him with. He’s the only creative player in the team. We lack creativity and it’s such an important assets to have.
 
I’d be against selling him if the logic is he doesn’t fit Ten Hag’s style (he doesn’t), because the manager hasn’t earned anywhere close to the trust to bin off one of our best players for his vision. Not after last season.

It would need to be just incredible money for us to sell him this summer, for all his flaws, he’s still far too important for us.
 
DJ_21 said:
It’s ridiculous that people would even be thinking about selling him. He’s probably our most consistent performer: puts his all into every game. One of the most creative in Europe, can run for 120 mins, he’s got such high energy. We ain’t replacing the numbers he puts up.
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It’s even more ridiculous when you consider how many expensive flops we’ve bought. They say things like “if we get 80m we can finally restructure the team and use the money to bring in 1-2 new players”. Yet let’s be honest here, it’d likely be enough for just one player and the chances are that player will be more Sancho or Mount, than Bruno, more Pogba than Bruno, more Mata than Bruno, more Sanchez than Bruno etc etc etc.
 
Remember the geese said:
If we were offered £100m+ it would be more ridiculous if we didn't sell him. A few weeks into the season he turns 30.
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Depends on how he ages but we should be really careful on this because as much as it is tempting to take the money and run we still have to replace him and who do we go for that will adequately replace what he brings? There is no obvious candidate and we could really struggle for a few seasons, I'd rather spend money to bring in complimentary players than let the one great player we have move.
 
I don't see any reason we refuse a 100M offer to sell Bruno. In his position we have Mount , Sancho , Van Der Beek , they all had world-class performance for some time before joining us , and never could co-exist with Bruno . With Bruno we could only play “Bruno ball" and never able to control balls like other title contenders. He is also turning 30 year old soon and has shown sign of dropping forms from time to time.

100M we can bring in Toney, Eze and Warton already. That's lot of money and enough to get great potential and quality players to replace Bruno .
 
davidmichael said:
If the Saudis were to offer £150 million who on here would take it if they were Ratcliffe and co ? I’ve read before that the Saudis have to pay all transfer fees in one go so £150 million would get us Neves and Ugarte and maybe transition into a 4-3-3/4-1-2-3.
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I doubt anyone would say no to £150 million but they aren't gonna off that kind of money for him. he's a good player and all but he's hardly the 2nd coming of Messi
 
My only problem with Bruno is that he can often go missing for a few games. He'll then pull of an amazing goal and everything is forgiven.

I just don't know if he does enough for me to warrant the immediate inclusion week after week. He's a good player, but when we're up against it he can often be lacking.

At the same time he can score a good goal or thread a pass some can't. Maybe he just needs better players behind him, which we haven't had for a while, but now have with Kobe and (hopefully) a new signing.

But if he's not up to much this season I say we take the blinkers off and look for someone else, unless Mount was brought in for that role of course.
 
Maybe in two or three seasons. No need to sell our best player because he turns 36 at one point in his life.
 
afatzp said:
I don't see any reason we refuse a 100M offer to sell Bruno. In his position we have Mount , Sancho , Van Der Beek ,
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So we have:
• perma injured
• playstation winger on his way out for awful attitude and dog shit performances.
• absolutely shite footballer

Yeah, that doesn’t sound very tempting.

afatzp said:
100M we can bring in Toney, Eze and Warton already. That's lot of money and enough to get great potential and quality players to replace Bruno .
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Absolutely none of those players are close to Bruno’s class and let’s be honest, Palace are asking 60m for Eze alone.
And Toney’s been quoted at 50m.

I don’t think either player would be anything more than a squad player for a team winning titles.
 
On one hand, selling him for £100 million or more makes perfect sense. He is 30 years old and that amount of money can be invested into other players. If they come with such an offer, I'd usually sell him. But on the other hand, nothing guarantees the funds won't be wasted on premium dross like Antony and Mount. Considering the transfer history of this club, the chance of that is very high indeed.
 
Yeah, im yet to be totally convinced that, if United were to move on Bruno, they'd have someone equally good lined up.
 
He will be 30 years old in a couple of months, so if we get the right offer, I understand if the club sells him.
 
We don’t even need to replace him. We can get an 8/6 and a winger with the money.

Rabiot on a free and someone the profile of Anthony Gordon.
 
Uncle Mainoo said:
We don’t even need to replace him. We can get an 8/6 and a winger with the money.

Rabiot on a free and someone the profile of Anthony Gordon.
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I mean if those are the alternatives I rather keep Bruno.
I rather keep him anyway tbh.
 
Hester_manc said:
He will be 30 years old in a couple of months, so if we get the right offer, I understand if the club sells him.
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I would say the same. Just because United ain't going to win anything big inside couple of years. So Bruno's age profile doesn't really match. We have to build around Mainoo, Garnacho and Holjlund. And it will take few years at the best scenario. So if we could get anything near 100M from Bruno (not likely to happen) I would say yes and bring in couple of younger players under 25yo.

BUT names mentioned above: Mount, Sancho and especially Van Den Beek aren't answers. Injury prone, bad attitude and bang average players.

Bruno is arguably our best player currently but we need to rebuild. No idea is he ready or should he wait for that to be done.
 
wildflower2007 said:
My only problem with Bruno is that he can often go missing for a few games. He'll then pull of an amazing goal and everything is forgiven.

I just don't know if he does enough for me to warrant the immediate inclusion week after week. He's a good player, but when we're up against it he can often be lacking.

At the same time he can score a good goal or thread a pass some can't. Maybe he just needs better players behind him, which we haven't had for a while, but now have with Kobe and (hopefully) a new signing.

But if he's not up to much this season I say we take the blinkers off and look for someone else, unless Mount was brought in for that role of course.
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He might have bad games but he never ever go's missing
 
This discussion will just go in circle with the same arguments until it's resolved or until the transfer window ends.

I do find posts like "if the Saudis bid 100 million then we must take it" funny though. As if the player have no say in the matter. Granted my impression of Bruno might be completely wrong, but I don't see him going to Saudi Arabia while he's still technically in his prime. Yes, some players have a longer prime than others. 29/30 is not as ancient as some of you make it sound.
 
bringbackbebe said:
You don't have faith in DVB or Mason Mount?
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I have more faith in democracy in Russia than in DvdB. I hope and I believe Mount will be much better this season but no, I can’t see him reaching the numbers Bruno consistently has.
 
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top1whoisman said:
I have more faith in democracy in Russia than in DvB. I hope and I believe Mount will be much better this season but no, I can’t see him reaching the numbers Bruno consistently has.
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Spot on mate.

I dont understand some of the fans that are willing to part ways with one of the best number 10`s in the world when we are far from stacked with world class players at the moment. Mind Boggling really.
 
He’ll get his new contract in October time.
 
Like many, I'm also a big Bruno fan.

But say we got £100m for him, and then we tried to lure in Cole Palmer from Chelsea for that kind of figure, would anyone object ( apart from Chelsea ) ?
 
SteveCoppellFan said:
Like many, I'm also a big Bruno fan.

But say we got £100m for him, and then we tried to lure in Cole Palmer from Chelsea for that kind of figure, would anyone object ( apart from Chelsea ) ?
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Probably Bruno... Possibly Palmer.

This is not Football Manager.
 
top1whoisman said:
In that scenario who would you see creating the chances to our forwards?
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How a team creatives chances should never be dependent on the individual. I mean Man City, Arsenal, Liverpool, Newcastle and Chelsea don’t have Bruno Fernandes and they all scored more goals than us.

The set up of the team would change and we would create chances from a different approach to games. It’s a risk if you don’t build the team correctly.

Which is why I suggested the profiles I did.
 
Uncle Mainoo said:
How a team creatives chances should never be dependent on the individual. I mean Man City, Arsenal, Liverpool, Newcastle and Chelsea don’t have Bruno Fernandes and they all scored more goals than us.

The set up of the team would change and we would create chances from a different approach to games. It’s a risk if you don’t build the team correctly.

Which is why I suggested the profiles I did.
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I agree to an extent. But I don’t think many people in favour of selling Bruno would have the patience to wait until the transition would be complete. Next season with those players (Rabiot and Gordon coming in) would be a struggle in terms of chance creation. And people would probably blame EtH for that.

Bruno is very hard to replace. I do agree that we need more from our wingers and other midfielders but I see getting better midfielders and wingers as the solution, not getting rid of the one player who consistently creates the most chances in the league.

Yes we need money for that but there are so many players I’d try to sell before Bruno.
 
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Not for sale.

If Saudi want to throw ridiculous money around, then it should take bids north of £150m to even get them to the negotiation table.
 
El-Manos said:
One does not sell their best player if you’re looking to compete. Delete thread.
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Coutinho, although I don't think we should sell Fernandes, one player does not make a team and if selling him meant we could massively improve the first 11 with 2/3 quality additions its not the worst idea.
 
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