Bruno Fernandes Out?

van Nistelrooy said:
Bayern are already well-stocked in the no.10 position and there is no way Barca can part with anything like the £100m required with their financial issues.

The only serious concern would be from Saudi, but I highly doubt Bruno is ready to quit United and Europe just yet.

All just noise from his agent seeking a better contract. We hold all the cards here and shouldn't be pressured into offering better terms.
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They have Musiala and Müller. The latter is in the twilight of his career and Kompany might fancy playing Musiala more on the left - think Ribéry. We simply don't know Kompany's plan, yet.

They might sell Gnabry and Coman and have Davies plaing on the wing. Who knows.

PS: Please Kompany, get Bernardo to Bayern. Thank you.
 
Some of the things you hear about our financial situation would nearly make you wonder if INEOS looked at our latest set of financial statements before they bought the club.

Hopefully its mostly just them trying to change the narrative about us, always being taken to the cleaners and whatnot. I find it a bit worrying.
 
#07 said:
We are not going to get £130m for Bruno.
We couldn't force Maguire and McTominay to go to West Ham. What makes you believe we can make Bruno go to Saudi Arabia if he doesn't want to go?

His agent is talking to big European clubs. They may well make a move but they won't be offering anything close to the kind of numbers you're reading from Caught Offside. If we're lucky we my get half.

So then you're asking if it's worth £65m to sell our main creative player. More or less a one in, one out with Mason Mount. To me that's laughable. But hey opinions and all that.
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The entire discussion was around whether we should sell him IF Saudi offered that number. It was a hypothetical based on a rumor. Which is why I thought acting like "selling Bruno for 130m is a terrible decision" was a bit dramatic.
 
GDaly95 said:
Some of the things you hear about our financial situation would nearly make you wonder if INEOS looked at our latest set of financial statements before they bought the club.

Hopefully its mostly just them trying to change the narrative about us, always being taken to the cleaners and whatnot. I find it a bit worrying.
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It's a combination of trying to keep the wage bill down to cut costs due to the previous management burning through cash and INEOS not wanting to waste money on average players which we've done with the likes of Antony and Sancho. Berrada is the perfect chief executive for what INEOS are trying to do, he was a master negotiator at City and managed their wage bill really well. I think the days of United going out in the market and offering massive wages to average or older players are over.

2:33 Berrada and Txiki discussing contract renewals and salaries

 
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pcaming said:
If we are able to move casemiro and sancho, on top of varane and martial leaving, Bruno should definitely be our top earner.

Just you know, be smart and make it a contract for 3-4 years max.
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Whether he's our best player not he might not fit with the new managers style and the others that decide that. It'd be silly to make any decisions until then.
That's assuming that's the plan which I'm sceptical of
 
GDaly95 said:
Some of the things you hear about our financial situation would nearly make you wonder if INEOS looked at our latest set of financial statements before they bought the club.

Hopefully its mostly just them trying to change the narrative about us, always being taken to the cleaners and whatnot. I find it a bit worrying.
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Funny as I take it all as it signals they knew prior to the takeover the state of our finances and decided to do what any corporation does in a takeover, cut cost and restructure overall expenditure.
 
romufc said:
That's what Pep did, with 2 8's and inverting full backs. I am not saying it cant work, Ten Hag looked like he wants to play that too, if you recall with Mount and Bruno.
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Thing is you need those 8’s to both be effective quickly taking the ball on the turn in tight spaces and either running with it or distributing quickly, and it’s a pretty disciplined positional role. Seems like a waste of what Bruno does well (floating and finding his own spaces, making runs in beyond the forward line, playing “freely”) while potentially exposing his main weaknesses (he’s not great with the ball in tight spaces and can be somewhat ill disciplined in his positional play).
 
pcaming said:
If we are able to move casemiro and sancho, on top of varane and martial leaving, Bruno should definitely be our top earner.

Just you know, be smart and make it a contract for 3-4 years max.
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Doesn’t he already have 3 years left? Extending into his mid 30’s would be fecking stupid considering that’s EXACTLY what we are trying to move away from after doing it for a decade.
 
Valencia Shin Crosses said:
Doesn’t he already have 3 years left? Extending into his mid 30’s would be fecking stupid considering that’s EXACTLY what we are trying to move away from after doing it for a decade.
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This - there is zero reason to extend. Club has all the leverage here. Some of our fans never learn.
 
Didn't expect so much media noise and bs around Bruno this summer...but why not! it will fill the Cafe for a few weeks at least.

But it's a bit of an odd angle to try and get parity with Sancho, Casemiro and Rashford when all 3 of those could be leaving (2 out of 3 very much with one foot out the door)

With Varane gone, DDG gone last summer, once Casemiro/Sancho it booted out then he will be close to top of the list wage wise.
 
Big Ben Foster said:
This - there is zero reason to extend. Club has all the leverage here. Some of our fans never learn.
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He just wants more money, shorter / same duration will be fine by him I assume. 3 yr + 1yr club option at 300-350k p/w and he'll be happy to stay. Arguable if he deserves that. If you don't give him that he'll be unhappy and might want to leave.

https://www.spotrac.com/epl/rankings/player/_/year/2024/sort/cash_base

Has the list of the highest paid EPL players. Players with less talent than him are getting paid more.
 
Scandi Red said:
Seeing as Bruno has tried everything except fullback and goalkeeper (as far as I know), he would for sure find a role for Bruno.
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Uh, he can literally only play one position - the 10. He can’t play in midfield and he’s not that great on the wing. Pep wouldn’t even go for him, he’s too one dimensional.
 
Tom Van Persie said:
It's a combination of trying to keep the wage bill down to cut costs due to the previous management burning through cash and INEOS not wanting to waste money on average players which we've done with the likes of Antony and Sancho. Berrada is the perfect chief executive for what INEOS are trying to do, he was a master negotiator at City and managed their wage bill really well. I think the days of United going out in the market and offering massive wages to average or older players are over.

2:33 Berrada and Txiki discussing contract renewals and salaries

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This is kind of laughable considering what city have been accused of.
 
Maybe Bruno knows the manager is more than likely going to be replaced, so he wants reassurances he is still going to be numero uno in the squad. A bumper payrise or extension puts any doubts to bed.
 
I think part of the reason his team are angling for a higher and wage parity is the reported 25% reduction in wages next season due to missing out on CL. On balance, he does deserve to be atleast on the same wages as Marcus/ Casemiro, so can’t really fault him for trying.
 
Angling for a new contract at the very beginning of a new leadership and direction for the club seems all wrong to me.

We all know Rashford and Casemiro should never be on the type of wages they are > I just cant see any logical reason why we'd give a 30yr old with 3 years left a bumper pay rise when FFP is so strict in the PL at the moment.

Not to mention, whether he is our best player or not he's been part of a Man UTD squad for the last 3 or 4 years that have repeatedly under achieved and failed in they're objectives. Our captain, our leader. He isn't worth a new contract. Being best of a rotten bunch doesn't make you the best
 
van Nistelrooy said:
Bayern are already well-stocked in the no.10 position and there is no way Barca can part with anything like the £100m required with their financial issues.

The only serious concern would be from Saudi, but I highly doubt Bruno is ready to quit United and Europe just yet.

All just noise from his agent seeking a better contract. We hold all the cards here and shouldn't be pressured into offering better terms.
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100% agree. He wants more money for the last big contract of his career. Barring a move to saudi in his mid thirties.
 
stepic said:
KDB can play deeper than Bruno as well as in the more attacking positions and on the wing. He’s far more versatile
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Can is different to does / has.

Bruno can play deeper too, he plays on the wing for us too.

KDB only looks versatile because he has Pep's system.
 
Unfortunately for Bruno, it seems on paper we have some sensible people running the footballing side of the club now. In years gone by, he’d have been given a new 5 year contract on 300k a week as soon as he made soundings about moving on. I don’t think the new hierarchy will fall for it.
 
stepic said:
Uh, he can literally only play one position - the 10. He can’t play in midfield and he’s not that great on the wing. Pep wouldn’t even go for him, he’s too one dimensional.
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I remember alot of people saying Bruno wont fit Ten Hag's style, Ten HAg wont put up with Bruno..

2 years later, 1st name on the team sheet and captain.
 
redNATION said:
Unfortunately for Bruno, it seems on paper we have some sensible people running the footballing side of the club now. In years gone by, he’d have been given a new 5 year contract on 300k a week as soon as he made soundings about moving on. I don’t think the new hierarchy will fall for it.
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I mean, unless you've got a Saudi offer on hand, realistically it might be best to find a middle ground and give him a raise, since keeping a player like this unhappy might have serious negative repercussions on the team.

You aren't selling him in Europe
 
giorno said:
I mean, unless you've got a Saudi offer on hand, realistically it might be best to find a middle ground and give him a raise, since keeping a player like this unhappy might have serious negative repercussions on the team.

You aren't selling him in Europe
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In redcafe, man/player management doesn't exist.
If a player is deemed not good enough, he needs to accept pay cut without compensation and leave the club.
If a player is close to 30 and want to be rewarded with a better contract based on his performance, nope because he is deemed to decline in the next few years so no salary increase.

City renewed/extended KDB's contract in 2021, rumored to be £340,000 per week, when he was exactly 30 years old, and Odegaard is making over £280,000 per week.
 
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dinostar77 said:
100% agree. He wants more money for the last big contract of his career. Barring a move to saudi in his mid thirties.
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I do rather sympathise with Bruno, but no one is bigger than the club and we're not a charity.

I find it appalling that Rashford is on the wage that he is, along with the likes of Sancho and Mount. Bruno gives his all every game and is the best captain we've had in a long time. He deserves to be on par with the top earner at the club at least.

I've no doubt his agent has taken stock that we have a lot more room to manoeuvre in the wage budget with Varane and Martial gone. However, a contract is a contract. We stand to make a great deal of money if Bruno wants out and a club can stump up £100m+. Otherwise, Bruno will have to honour the contract he's on and just give those overpaid, underperforming players a mouthful.

I really don't want to lose him and I doubt he would ever down tools. I don't feel worried for next season, but it may become a bigger problem during the 25/26 summer window.
 
van Nistelrooy said:
I do rather sympathise with Bruno, but no one is bigger than the club and we're not a charity.

I find it appalling that Rashford is on the wage that he is, along with the likes of Sancho and Mount. Bruno gives his all every game and is the best captain we've had in a long time. He deserves to be on par with the top earner at the club at least.

I've no doubt his agent has taken stock that we have a lot more room to manoeuvre in the wage budget with Varane and Martial gone. However, a contract is a contract. We stand to make a great deal of money if Bruno wants out and a club can stump up £100m+. Otherwise, Bruno will have to honour the contract he's on and just give those overpaid, underperforming players a mouthful.

I really don't want to lose him and I doubt he would ever down tools. I don't feel worried for next season, but it may become a bigger problem during the 25/26 summer window.
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Yep continually using previous mistakes around wages as benchmarks isn't the way to go about improving things
 
Get Xavi Simons in and I would get over it fairly quickly if he were to go.
 
romufc said:
I remember alot of people saying Bruno wont fit Ten Hag's style, Ten HAg wont put up with Bruno..

2 years later, 1st name on the team sheet and captain.
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To be fair I was one of those, but that's what I expected Ten Hag to truly implement his Ajax style and well, you know the rest.
 
70m and good bye!
Rashford too please
And Casemiro
And Maguire
And Lindelof
And Shaw
And Mount
 
E-mal said:
70m and good bye!
Rashford too please
And Casemiro
And Maguire
And Lindelof
And Shaw
And Mount
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Sell both Bruno and one of the few that can play his position? Who do you want to replace him with? Also, why no greenwood or Sancho on that list? They're much bigger priorities to get rid of than Bruno, Mount, Maguire, rashford or Shaw.
 
Born2Lose said:
When you think how badly those three have been in different ways this season, I don't blame Bruno one bit for pushing it. Crazy to think he's been earning the same as Martial up until now.
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Bruno has been as bad if not more barring a couple of matches later in the season. It's like people don't remember it was him & Rashford putting awful displays week in week out a couple of months ago.
 
Born2Lose said:
When you think how badly those three have been in different ways this season, I don't blame Bruno one bit for pushing it. Crazy to think he's been earning the same as Martial up until now.
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I don't blame him either. I just don't think we should take the bait.
 
For such a fee, I'd carry him there. Express delivery. No way that's true, though. Offering him a new contract would be silly, which is why it will happen.
 
Pickle85 said:
Sell both Bruno and one of the few that can play his position? Who do you want to replace him with? Also, why no greenwood or Sancho on that list? They're much bigger priorities to get rid of than Bruno, Mount, Maguire, rashford or Shaw.
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In my book, they are as good as gone
I am not actively looking to sell Bruno but I'd rather take 70m than give a new contract. He hasn't been great since his last contract
 
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