He's easily worth 100m. I love when people severely under value our players
Bruno Fernandes Out?
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I wouldn't want us to be paying £100m for a player who turns 30 in September.
He's got an engine. Bruno is not your normal player, he doesn't get injured or miss a single game. Creates all your chances and he's insanely pivotal to any attack. The man is worth every cent. 70-80m at minimum.
Clearly you love Bruno so you're letting a bit of bias seep in.
In general, no clubs will not pay 100m for players that are in their 30's. And that has nothing to do with how good you think he is, we are talking about what price he'd actually fetch on the market.
He's easily worth 100m. I love when people severely under value our players
Um, I think it’s you getting the valuation wrong. Not a chance in hell you’d get £100m for someone of his age.
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I think you'd have dozens of offers for 60m. I wouldn't want to stand in his way if he wants to move on but i'd still want a stupid fee to let him go. I might reluctantly let him leave for 90m after a lot of haggling and him being really intent on moving on but I'd consider it a bad deal if we get less than 100m
Exactly. The only exception to that statement is Ronaldo, who I think is in a category of his own.
I'm thinking in € personally
Based on what though? Ronaldo aside (and Bruno is no Ronaldo), all the huge transfers have been for players considerably younger than Fernandes is.
He isn't a better player.
Just saw your other post but I mean 60m pounds for what it's worth.
I don't think selling any 30 year old for close to 100m is a bad deal. History has shown it pretty much never is in fact, no matter how much it might suck to see them leave. And that's often with teams that are far more successful, we are looking at a full rebuild right now and an extra 90m would go a long way towards doing so instead of hanging on to a great player that's going to elevate the squad to MAYBE top 4 if everything goes perfectly?
Or Kane with one year left on his contract. Or higuain to juventus.
I'm excited about moving on him from and the chaos ball he encourages.
Fair point although it’s still not achievable in my opinion. But good luck to Utd if they can find someone who’d pay that much. I guess you never know with clubs like PSG, and of course the Saudi leagues. I don’t think you’d get anywhere close to €100m if the buying club wasn’t a state funded entity.
Unluckily for you, that ain’t gonna happen
I agree i wouldn't want us to spend 100m on him. But im not sure selling your best players for huge fee's is always a foolproof, great plan either. The only reason i'd consider it is because he could fetch a stupid, overpriced offer (ie 100m+).
Yet doesn’t encourage it for his national team.
Probably the most underrated player I can remember in all my time watching this club, and by some distance. Unbelievable looking at this thread how many can’t wait to see the back of our best player due to some nonsensical idea that he can’t play possession
Unless we decide to sell him he will 100% still be here next season.
It is Bruno who wants to leave, not the other way around. He will stay only if his ambition is met. He is tired of the non-stop rebuild process.
Very similar stats to De Bruyne who plays in the most possession heavy side in the world.
That's all well and good, but is he still going to have that engine in 5 years time? £70-80m at the maximum.
We have been in 'transition' for 11 years. It's f'n ridiculous. If I was Bruno and I heard that Bayern were in for me I'd walk to Germany. We are not on their level, or anything close to their level.
I think in this case with the state of the club/squad, it's more beneficial to sell for a huge fee than keep him to get hopefully 2 more top level Bruno years where he's playing in a team that isn't really competing for anything and a manager that's looking to implement an entire new style.
If we were finishing 3rd or something just a few points behind Arsenal/City then obviously selling him is stupid but that isn't the case here. And it's a unique situation where there's probably only a short window going forward where his value will ever be this high again.
I can see Rashford probably wants to leave as well regardless the fans opinion on him. He is basically on the same boat with Bruno.
Manchester United met Bruno Fernandes last week to discuss his future, with the club making clear they want him to stay and the midfielder expressing a desire to remain at Old Trafford, according to The Athletic.
Nevertheless, both players current highest placement in the league is 2nd. Odegaard being better than Fernandes or not isn’t why Arsenal are currently better. Bruno is probably our only top player at the moment in my opinion, Arsenal would be better if they had him in their squad 100%.
We failed him.
What we should move away from. Even Rashford has been dragged to this group. Rashy used to score against City, Arsenal, Liverpool in high frequency but now he's a shadow of his former self.
Also another poster said, we will turn Mainoo into a substandard player, the United standard,within 18 months.
I do not know how Pep does it, but the maintaining of performance levels at absolute high levels is what we lack in players and in coaching.
Only Pre Ole we had a standard level of football and play in us, albeit a low standard. Mourinho and LvG had a standard of what to expect from their teams albeit it was a very poor level.
Since then, you can't tell the cut off point of our football. It's dire a week then Shaw-boatin next week.
Mourinho suffered only one 4-0 loss against Chelsea.
How many 4-goals have we suffered since 2018? Over 10, this will show you how our levels is not stagnant, not scalable, not sustainable.
This has been my main problem with us.
If I was Ratcliffe, first thing I do.
Is find a standard position of the team. I playing style, points, manager, even if it's position 4 or 5.
Then scale it up in 3 windows.
Problem now is, we are worse off that when ETH took over
how comes? Because nothing is scalable in us. It's very frustratingAntony is poorer than Greenwood
Casemiro is poorer than Matic
Eriksen is poorer than Pogba
Onana vs De Gea is still a debate here
Varane is leaving Lindelof and Maguire behind
yet he was supposed to be their replacement.Sancho is poorer than Antony, yet Antony is the poorest signing we've done in some time
How comes?
This should show you why we are in the state we are in.
What Arteta or Arsenal did is find the true position and state of the team. 8th position.
Then start scaling it up, season by season. There is no other way.
We first need to find the true position, play and status of the team. With this we need to bin some of these players who have been here for more than 3 years.
We need a team of Mainoo, Garnacho, Hojlund, Dalot, Licha, to find it's feet even if it's position 6.
Then we now fill up the spot, as we upgrade the team. But now we are at a risk of Mainoo Garnacho being frustrated and turning into a Rashford-esque.
Then it's a endless loop
It’s mad to me that some hate him and want him out.
Since he arrived on average he’s been our best player more often than not.
Yes he has some faults but who doesn’t? IMO he’s the very least of our problems. He speaks really well off the pitch and he fights for us on it.
You couldn’t really blame him if he decided to bugger off after being in such a chaotic environment for 4 years but no, he wants to stay still because he cares about this club.
Since he arrived on average he’s been our best player more often than not.
Yes he has some faults but who doesn’t? IMO he’s the very least of our problems. He speaks really well off the pitch and he fights for us on it.
You couldn’t really blame him if he decided to bugger off after being in such a chaotic environment for 4 years but no, he wants to stay still because he cares about this club.
I definitely want him to stay and we’ll be better off if he stays, but he also needs to want to stay.
It’s quite plausible that he doesn’t want to sit through yet another rebuild under yet another manager and to take a year out of European football while at his peak. If he wants to leave for a new challenge and someone brings a sizeable offer I can see why the board could be really tempted to let him go.
For one, he’s probably the only player in this squad worth a damn. So he could generate revenue for other purchases. And two, they might decide to bet on Mount and Amad for the #10 position next season. Mount and Bruno were always going to fight for the same position and one is 5 years younger than the other while also on a fresh deal.
It’s quite plausible that he doesn’t want to sit through yet another rebuild under yet another manager and to take a year out of European football while at his peak. If he wants to leave for a new challenge and someone brings a sizeable offer I can see why the board could be really tempted to let him go.
For one, he’s probably the only player in this squad worth a damn. So he could generate revenue for other purchases. And two, they might decide to bet on Mount and Amad for the #10 position next season. Mount and Bruno were always going to fight for the same position and one is 5 years younger than the other while also on a fresh deal.
It’s good that he is challenging INEOS to make sure that the football side of things will be improved.
Even if you bring in Arteta Mkii or Emery it will take 3 to 4 years to rebuild. Does Bruno want to give his last 4 years at his top level in another rebuild?
The way he plays, and the fact that he's captain, I'd say he'd be detrimental to any rebuild. I'd sell him for the right price
What is the right price? He has high wages, has no resale value, no marketing power like Messi or CR7, and he only has 3 to 4 years left in him.
I'd sign off on 40-50m.
He's close to being fully amortised (if not done already) so I think 50+ would be considered.
For me it should be closer to 70-80.
Not even close
Yet doesn’t encourage it for his national team.
Probably the most underrated player I can remember in all my time watching this club, and by some distance. Unbelievable looking at this thread how many can’t wait to see the back of our best player due to some nonsensical idea that he can’t play possession
Ill start by saying he's a good player .
The premier League is a higher standard than what Portugal have come up against . I'm not saying he can't play possession . He just doesn't Instill it for us .
It will be interesting to see how he performs against the top international sides for Portugal , because I don't think they've met one yet . Morocco beat them in their last test .
There's 4 maybe at a reach 6 teams that can win the euros . Portugal are one of them, along with England , France , Germany , Spain and Belgium .
Those are the games to judge him in . Portugal against andorra tells us nothing .