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2024-25 Performances

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5.5 Season Average Rating
Appearances
25
Goals
5
Assists
11
Yellow cards
4
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2
Scandi Red said:
Dribbling is not the be all and end all.

Bruno is far more than just a creative/productive player. He has 3 advantages over most of his comparable peers in the PL:

1) He is much better defensively

Tackles and interceptions per 90:

Bruno: 3.2
Ødegaard: 2.1
Palmer: 1.1
De Bruyne: 1.0


2) He is a lot more involved in the game

Passes per 90:

De Bruyne: 60.2 (BIG outlier season! He's normally below 45)
Bruno: 49.7
Ødegaard: 34.5
Palmer: 34.3

3) His injury record
No need to elaborate, I hope..
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I didn't say dribbling it's that, I've mentioned because it's one of the "easier" ways to loose the ball when you try a difficult move to create some space or advantage with an offensive midfielder. And I also mentioned to keep it under control, meaning to handle against oposition coming after you without instantly releasing it. Bruno does not risk some difficult passes because he always "sees" a pass or feels the urge to do sthg and help his team, he many times doesn't have the dribbling and control of others in his role to keep it. That is why is so improtant to take this in account as a team to provide him a better platfform for his style.

You are too focus in stats and for instance Bruno as much as he can steal many balls, he might create a gap while failing to do it because of not being as intelligent as other on how to move properly in such regard and command others to do so. BTW, I'm not saying that he sucks at this department, but very much like his offensive output, he put his heart on his sleeve and he indeed many times presses or tries to steal it, but not few times in a chaotic way.

Bruno more than anything needs a better management of his decisions and acknowledge better in what he is great at and in what he isn't

PD: When I'm analizying his traits, atributes and his deficiencies, I'm not just comparing with current players this season or even prior ones, but more in comparison with players in similar roles since ever. That's why the constant refference of current stats doesn't help to get what I'm talking about and never paints the whole picture for any player, on any role.
 
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Love me some Bruno prop guys

The remontada under Amorim will feed generations

Although some people will still try to downplay his 30 g/a league seasons because "he
loses the ball often" or something
 
TheRedDevil'sAdvocate said:
I don't disagree with that. But what top-team plays with two workhorses to free-up a classic #10 nowadays? This is the more pertinent question. Are we building castles in the sand (like the scousers did with Gerrard)? It's a question for Amorim, i guess. If he makes it tick, all is good. If he doesn't, we'll keep having the same boring discussions. People laugh at McFred now, but, back then, we had threads about how we function better with them in the centre of the park. Perhaps, they weren't the cause of our malaise, but a symptom of trying to play to our best players' (not just Bruno's) strengths.
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They don’t have to be workhorses though. They just have to be actual midfielders with a set up that allows a midfield to function. Which we haven’t had for almost 18 months.
 
Europa League = 3gp - 1 assist
PAOK - 1 assist

Premier League - 11gp , 2 goals (one penalty), 3 assists
Southampton (bottom 5 team) - 1 assist
Brentford - 1 assist
Chelsea - 1 goal (penalty shot)
Leicester (bottom 5 team) - 1 goal, 1 assist

EFL Cup - 2gp - 2 goals, 2 assists
Barnsley (3rd division team) - 2 assists
Leicester b team - 2 goals

Is this seriously what the Bruno stat warriors are praising? Looks like a flat track bully who does fk all whenever a half decent team shows up.

His "chances created" stat means fk all. Half (if not more) of the players who the top 10 of these lists are mid players. Take a look at the current list for most chances created this season.

1. Andreas Pereira 30 chances created
2. Kulusevski 30 chances created
3. Palmer 29 chances created
4. Saka 28 chances created
5. Dwight McNeil 26 chances created
6. Leif David 26 chances created
7. Bowen 24 chances created
8. Anthony Gordon 23 chances created
9. Bernardo Silva 23 chances created
10. Tielemans 23 chances created
11. Marcus Tavernier 23 chances created
12. Bruno Fernandes 22 chances created

I guess United should buy back Andreas Pereira?
 
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Now we're gonna have a new motto under Amorim. "Where one moans, everyone moans". We will be an insufferable team to the refs.
 
dan1509 said:
Europa League = 3gp - 1 assist
PAOK - 1 assist

Premier League - 11gp , 2 goals (one penalty), 3 assists
Southampton (bottom 5 team) - 1 assist
Brentford - 1 assist
Chelsea - 1 goal (penalty shot)
Leicester (bottom 5 team) - 1 goal, 1 assist

EFL Cup - 2gp - 2 goals, 2 assists
Barnsley (3rd division team) - 2 assists
Leicester b team - 2 goals

Is this seriously what the Bruno stat warriors are praising? Looks like a flat track bully who does fk all whenever a half decent team shows up.

His "chances created" stat means fk all. Half (if not more) of the players who the top 10 of these lists are mid players. Take a look at the current list for most chances created this season.

1. Andreas Pereira 30 chances created
2. Kulusevski 30 chances created
3. Palmer 29 chances created
4. Saka 28 chances created
5. Dwight McNeil 26 chances created
6. Leif David 26 chances created
7. Bowen 24 chances created
8. Anthony Gordon 23 chances created
9. Bernardo Silva 23 chances created
10. Tielemans 23 chances created
11. Marcus Tavernier 23 chances created
12. Bruno Fernandes 22 chances created

I guess United should buy back Andreas Pereira?
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I've tried to explain that "chances created" isn't a good stat on here (not even a Bruno point, just a general one) because all it measures is a pass made to a player who then shoots. You can be a winger that constantly just dribbles and cuts it back to the edge of the box, and if the player receiving the pass is a selfish cnut that just wants to constantly shoot you'll be considered as "creating chances" in each of those instances even if you didn't do anything special. Big Chances Created is better because it requires a high threshold for xG to be considered a BCC and shows who really consistently puts it on a plate for other players to score easy chances.
 
Hopefully Ruben be getting best from Bruno. Has the intense but does he have the brain and technique beyond Bruno ball. That is big Q
 
Class player. Gets far too much hate. Don't understand why we have a thread saying he’s a problem with Rashford.
 
LeonDion said:
Hopefully Ruben be getting best from Bruno. Has the intense but does he have the brain and technique beyond Bruno ball. That is big Q
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The brain, of course. All his managers say he's a very intelligent player. Technique? I suppose that depends on what's expected of him.
 
I think Ruud insisting players stay in their position has done wonders for him.

In my last post, I mentioned managers hailing his intelligence, but I feel that just makes them encourage him to go where he pleases to find spaces with no structure, which ends up being a net negative on him and the team
 
5 goals in his last 5 matches. His inability to convert chances and the deterioration of his shot quality had been one of the biggest nosedives in his quality. Hopefully he keeps his form up now — especially as I imagine he will play further forward under Amorim.
 
Sabotages selection by picking up a suspension to return home and ensure he's in Ruben's plans! :lol:

Kidding obviously, however, not that it's 100% proof of causation, but it's interesting that Portugal didn't fare very well without him (worth bearing in mind that Croatia are no slouches).
 
Glorio said:
Sabotages selection by picking up a suspension to return home and ensure he's in Ruben's plans! :lol:

Kidding obviously, however, not that it's 100% proof of causation, but it's interesting that Portugal didn't fare very well without him (worth bearing in mind that Croatia are no slouches).
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I was thinking the same, wonder if he took that yellow knowing he needs to be here for the new manager.
 
I'll be interested to see how he does under Amorim. I'm not claiming to be an expert on how Amorim likes to play but on the surface he seems like a player who doesn't fit the style we will be looking to implement.

Even though Bruno presses a lot, it's very chaotic and he is often randomly hunting down the opposition. Also his passing can look dreadful at times. My only hope is Ruben has the balls to sub him off whenever he has the inevitable terrible performances.
 
Ipswich 1:1 Man Utd New
All of our attacking bursts into the final third seem to come from a well-weighted Bruno pass that upped the tempo. Today would have been even more of a snoozefest had he not been there to break us through the lines.
 
The slow realisation from the fanbase that this guy isn't really a top level player has been excruciating to witness. He's highly talented in a very limited sense. We will never win the league with him in the team. Amorim benefited from him being gone from Sporting when he took over and now he has to recognise that he must sell his doppelganger to get us back to the top. He's far from the only problem with the team, of course, but he's a problem
 
Gabriel Djemba-Bebe said:
All of our attacking bursts into the final third seem to come from a well-weighted Bruno pass that upped the tempo. Today would have been even more of a snoozefest had he not been there to break us through the lines.
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Made a few good line breaking passes when he was playing with play in front of him, but I don’t think he looked comfortable receiving the ball in the tight spaces when he was in those inside no.10 positions
 
When he drops so deep at times someone else has to move into his position behind the opposition midfield. He is coming so deep just to pass it backwards or sideways and getting us nowhere very slowly. Had a few good passes on turnovers, but probably not enough from him.
 
Thought he played really well in 1st half, something to build on at least hopefully.
 
As per usual, our only moments of quality through midfield came via Bruno. Maybe Amorim will evolve us beyond him but, right now, if we can't get Bruno on the ball we look very harmless.
 
Had some lovely passes and through balls but some worrying signs for me of how he will fit into the system.

He doesn't like the tight spaces and was doing his usual drifting here there and everywhere job from CF to #8 and across the flanks.

He may be our most creative option in a terrible team but he has a lot to do to be a top option in a great team
 
Second what's been said. Thought his passing was really good, didn't play heroball and picked his moments to ping longer passes and control the tempo which is key to Amorim's patient buildup. But like other's have said, especially if he's to play in central midfield, I worry that he isn't agile nor a good enough dribbler in those tight space when we're being pressed.
 
Was alright and had some great through balls which only he in this team can pull off. Not a fan when he goes deeper though.
 
Not sure what people saw to say he was excellent in first half. Legitimately forgot he was playing with how invisible he was. Second half had moments but even then wasn't like he was lighting it up. Not sure how he fits into this system
 
Thought it was one of his best games of the season and the reason is he didn't do anything highlights worthy, he kept it simple.

Fernandes under ETH was proverbially like the slim guy in the gym who keeps ego lifting barely doing half a rep not substantiating any real development to his own body but posting some Instagram caption with the weights racked up in the background.

If he keeps it simple does the basics well and just keep feeding the attacking players, he's more than useful in the managers system.
 
I constantly had to verify the dates of these posts. Bruno is not what we need in midfield. I wish the manager can grow enough spine to build the team without him. Actually get rid of anyone who can’t keep the ball under pressure. We lose the ball too much for a big team. The fact that even Ipswich midfielders protect and move the ball better is embarrassing.
 
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