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When talking about consistency? I think it makes a difference. If you don't thats fine.
So all it took was me mentioning that I find the stats chosen to praise Bruno a little odd and only a few hours later I get my motives questioned and tips how to be a fan "the right way". Main thing is you clowns see agendas around youI wonder if Dalot did a fist pump afterwards and high-fived everyone else on the plane.
| Player | Apps | Minutes | Goals | Assists | G+A | G+A/Minutes |
| Bruno | 239 | 21,274 | 88 | 76 | 164 | 0.008 |
| KDB | 167 | 14,456 | 58 | 86 | 144 | 0.010 |
| Salah | 221 | 19,883 | 145 | 71 | 216 | 0.011 |
| Son | 192 | 16,804 | 91 | 48 | 139 | 0.008 |
That's a little unfair. I didn't mention anything to do with agendas. Simply pulling you up on the point that the players are deliberately chosen to make Bruno look better. To me it looks like a list of players with the most goals and assists from PL clubs in the period since Bruno joined us, which I think is a fair comparison to make.When talking about consistency? I think it makes a difference. If you don't thats fine.
Look at you fantastic fans.
Put Bruno in city’s team and he delivers more numbers than KDB does. It’s a simple as that. Would KDB be as effective in our team? Not sure.
What is this based on? Your own opinion? It is really not as simple as that. Kevin de Bruyne is one of the best and most creative midfielders in Premier League of all time. Bruno - while he has been exceptional in periods for us - is not.
Definitely not. We would not have had the depth to compensate for De Bruyne's patchy injury record.
Same here. So lets just not start to judge what other people do and how they express it. Surely, you are aligned with that.
Obviously most of the post wasn't directed at you.
Most likely I have just another idea of what consistency means.
Per minute numbers are rounded a lot. Given we have 5-figure numbers on the minutes site. Also pretty sure the point of the tweet and posting it here was to show how Bruno is delivering on a level that is bigger than the other players. Which would be correct - the total numbers show that. But the tweet mentioned consistency. And in terms of consistency the other players have produced similarly or more in less time, which means they are more consistent or efficient.
Could be. Could also be not. The nature of make-belief arguments I guess.
Thats definitely true. Brunos injury record is incredible which certainly is a big plus for him. Next to other big and not so big plus'es and some minus'. Just like with any other player.
Now if you really like your stats to be complete, add in contract years and minutes played per season. Whatever else you think of Bruno, there's a major advantage he has over De Bruyne. And it matters hugely, cause you can't plan with players whose fitness is unreliable - see United and the LB position for the most obvious example.
I come from the game of golf and there those two things come together closely more often than not. I agree, it isn't the exact same thing but I think they are close enough. Hard to imagine being consistent at something when it takes max effort, wouldn't you agree? So efficiency should be part of the equation.
Do you really think consistent and efficient mean the same thing?!? Because you sure as shit don’t seem to understand what consistent means.
You are running in open doors. And I even mentioned his injury record as a big plus a mere hour ago.
You serious? Try reading up the stats. Bruno comes on top for chances created since joining the premier league. The only difference is, KDB as Haaland to finish his assists off. We don’t have a clinical ST so that’s the reason Bruno doesn’t get the assist stats he deserves but I’m pretty sure he creates more big chances than KDB
Weirdly aggressive response, but okay. You should take your own advice.
i put this in another thread, but Brunos assist numbers are affected by the finishers he played alongside. If you switch to expected assists the gap ahead of Son and Salah was much larger, even measured on a per game basis.
Sorry it sounded that way. De Bruyne is world class obviously. But I think it’s quite harsh to compare the 2 when one’s playing in a team that’s been dominant for the past 5 years or so. If you look at it that way then Bruno as been better because he’s carried a worse team, plus what gives Bruno the advantage is that he’s never injured so he’s also more reliable than KDB. Ones playing in a much better team so will win more trophies… if we want to go further and compare them for their country’s then Bruno probably comes out top in that one.
One could also flip that argument to make a case for why he plays for City in the first place, and why they have been so dominant with him as their key player, and have won so much with him. City have been buying some of the best talents and players for years now, and I think it is safe to say Pep would not have been as successful with City if they had our squad, even if our players would be better under his system.
Bruno’s issue has never been his end product - granted I think his finishing has gotten gradually weaker during his time with us. But either way, he’s obviously a highly productive player and hence a very good one.
1. Bruno isn’t well suited to controlling games given all the times we’ve seen us trying to and him being a turnover machine. Very good player but not a great one and unsuited to dominant / top class teams. I think we need him right now as he’s our best player but I’d slowly phase him out as we (hopefully) develop a great team.
In theory, yeah. In practice, no. What I do think is that it is notably easier to create when afforded space, something City aren't being given too much because as you say, they are regularly camped in the opposition half with 8-9 players in defense, so how can one player consistently find openings? They are reliant on movement and quick passing rather than just giving the ball to de Bruyne to create out of nothing.
1. I have no idea. It’s time to wait, watch and hope. I think we have a long way to go before we compete for major honours so it only makes sense to keep hold, make use and get the best out of our best player. As already mentioned in my last post, I’d start planning for life without Bruno for when we’re ready to dominate and ensure his successor is the right one.
