[Oscar Bonavena]

Not to you, but to the agenda posters who can't tell the difference between 70% and 90% accuracy. They just see Bruno and assume the worst. Absolute jokers.

The problem is, a lot of Bruno's passes reach their target, so they count as "successful". But a lot of the passes themselves are either underhit or overhit and don't put the receiver in the best position.

Case in point, that cross field pass to Garnacho in the 2nd half (when Bruno had 2 or 3 easier options on the edge of the box), which arrived at Garnacho at head height and he just about managed to keep in play before being outnumbered by Villa players.

I assume that counts as a "successful" pass because it reached its intended target? But it didn't give Garnacho any chance to control it or put him in a dangerous position.

I heard someone online describe Bruno as the delivery man who'll deliver the package to your address, but it'll be dumped on the lawn or your driveway, not through your letterbox!

 

[NotChatGPT]

He didn't get sent off, that's about the best you can say about his performance.

 

[Scandi Red]

The problem is, a lot of Bruno's passes reach their target, so they count as "successful". But a lot of the passes themselves are either underhit or overhit and don't put the receiver in the best position.

This is a very good point that is only true for Bruno.

 

[ShinjiNinja26]

Shite again. Needs dropping but that’ll never happen while ETH remains in charge.

 

[Yorkeontop]

Eriksen can play there, and should.

No excuse in my opinion. Any of Zirkzee, Amad and Eriksen can play as a 10 and probably more effective than Bruno at the moment. Similarly we could bring in Ugarte or Casemiro and solidify the midfield.

I think Mount is based placed to offer the alternative EtH is comfortable with. His injury record forms part of my "thin" assessment. Eriksen is a fair shout, hopefully he can stay fit.

 

[JPRouve]

This is a very good point that is only true for Bruno.

Now it's fair to add that it's true for many of our players, it's one of our general issues.

 

[Scandi Red]

Now it's fair to add that it's true for many of our players, it's one of our general issues.

Gasp!

 

[statpadder]

Can we fly a banner at OT that says Sub Bruno FFS.

What the feck is wrong with the management that they cant fecking give this guy and the fans a break? Why cant they see what we all can?

 

[Desert Eagle]

Maybe we'll be lucky and get another instagram post. What a trash player.

 

[NotChatGPT]

Don't really understand why fans have such strong feelings for individual players, to the point where they become just as, or more, important as the club.

Bruno has always been a bit of a hit and miss when it comes to how he plays, the upside was his goals and assists. Now that the goals and assists have completely dried up, and he's barely productive in terms of creating chances, it's time to rethink the role he has.

 

[Godfather]

He is pretty good at setting up attacks for the others.

 

[DavelinaJolie]

The problem is, a lot of Bruno's passes reach their target, so they count as "successful". But a lot of the passes themselves are either underhit or overhit and don't put the receiver in the best position.

Case in point, that cross field pass to Garnacho in the 2nd half (when Bruno had 2 or 3 easier options on the edge of the box), which arrived at Garnacho at head height and he just about managed to keep in play before being outnumbered by Villa players.

I assume that counts as a "successful" pass because it reached its intended target? But it didn't give Garnacho any chance to control it or put him in a dangerous position.

I heard someone online describe Bruno as the delivery man who'll deliver the package to your address, but it'll be dumped on the lawn or your driveway, not through your letterbox!

Aye, there was another one with Garnacho on the left when Bruno spread it wide to him from central midfield, wasn't a particularly long pass, but it forced Garnacho to slow and turn which stopped a quick break.

 

[FriedClams]

He has been our worst player this season, quite an achievement given how many could be up for that award

 

[Alemar]

Could have scored this free kick. Rather than that a poor game - again.

 

[Devil81]

Please please please stop trying stupid flicks and tricks in your own half. He was dreadful again today.

I've been a big advocate for getting in a more productive attacking midfielder for years, the guy loses the ball too often for my liking and his goals have dried up.

 

[Maureen-yo]

Please please please stop trying stupid flicks and tricks in your own half. He was dreadful again today.

I've been a big advocate for getting in a more productive attacking midfielder for years, the guy loses the ball too often for my liking and his goals have dried up.

There was a passage of play in the second half where he was around the edge of their box with players offering for the ball but instead he tried his usual Hollywood switch out to Garnacho and lost the ball. How bad does he have to play to get subbed?

 

[arthurka]

90% passing accuracy, reading this thread it looks like he was Villa's main man.

 

[statpadder]

90% passing accuracy, reading this thread it looks like he was Villa's main man.

Instead of reading threads or looking up stats, might i suggest watching games instead?

 

[arthurka]

Instead of reading threads or looking up stats, might i suggest watching games instead?

Watched, he wasn't good but this thread is a little OTT.

 

[Tony247]

Not only his short passing is bad, there was a moment in the first half where we were trying to keep hold of the ball but then he decided to play 30-40 yards cross field pass to Garnacho, who was near the touch line with two Aston Villa players near him so he couldn’t have done much even if the pass was inch perfect but of course he overhit it and ended up losing another needless possession.

The footballing IQ and technical consistency of our players are really on another level.

Vividly remember that. Other than the free kick unfortunately nothing much worked for him in this match too.

 

[GL21]

eriksen in the hole right now over bruno. we have forgotten just how effective he can be there because he has been played out of position almost entirely because of round pegs etc.

 

[Revival2024]

Exhausting player to watch. Emblematic of the chaos surrounding Manchester United. Can't trap a ball, can't pass accurately. He overestimates his ability and struggles to do the simple things well. Highly emotional and cannot get his bearings together.

Manchester United must move away from relying on a singular player for creativity. Bruno is simply not good enough yet his replacement are not up to standards either. United are in a massive conundrum.

 

[VivaObertan]

Bruno is held to a much higher standard than the rest of our players. You’d think he was one of our worst players every game to read RedCafe when the reality is he’s very, very rarely outside of our top 5 performers in a given game.

Was fine again today. Definitely no worse than Rashford, Hojlund, Zirkzee, Garnacho, Antony, Eriksen, Casemiro or Mainoo

 

[T00lsh3d]

Needs to be taken out for a while. People have short memories, this guy has been our heartbeat for years. He needs a decent rest for now and to rediscover his form

 

[NZT-One]

Watched, he wasn't good but this thread is a little OTT.

So your criticism is that the amount of criticism towards the player isn't equal to the amount you consider as correct?

Bruno is held to a much higher standard than the rest of our players. You’d think he was one of our worst players every game to read RedCafe when the reality is he’s very, very rarely outside of our top 5 performers in a given game.

Was fine again today. Definitely no worse than Rashford, Hojlund, Zirkzee, Garnacho, Antony, Eriksen, Casemiro or Mainoo

FYI, some of us don't work like this "best player considering" type of things. Him being the best (or "top 5") of a bad bunch is still enough to warrant criticism. This whole "compare our players to each other" thing has lost a bit substance given that we aren't really good anymore.

 

[lost7]

So your criticism is that the amount of criticism towards the player isn't equal to the amount you consider as correct?

FYI, some of us don't work like this "best player considering" type of things. Him being the best (or "top 5") of a bad bunch is still enough to warrant criticism. This whole "compare our players to each other" thing has lost a bit substance given that we aren't really good anymore.

And most importantly yes, players like Mainoo have also been atrocious this season. The fact of the matter though is that he's not out captain and on 300k a week, so of course expectations should be different. We're paying Bruno like he's one of the best players in the league but he sure ain't performing like one. That alone warrants criticism

 

[Valencia Shin Crosses]

The problem is, a lot of Bruno's passes reach their target, so they count as "successful". But a lot of the passes themselves are either underhit or overhit and don't put the receiver in the best position.

Case in point, that cross field pass to Garnacho in the 2nd half (when Bruno had 2 or 3 easier options on the edge of the box), which arrived at Garnacho at head height and he just about managed to keep in play before being outnumbered by Villa players.

I assume that counts as a "successful" pass because it reached its intended target? But it didn't give Garnacho any chance to control it or put him in a dangerous position.

I heard someone online describe Bruno as the delivery man who'll deliver the package to your address, but it'll be dumped on the lawn or your driveway, not through your letterbox!

Very true, and it’s very underlooked when people are rating passers of the football. I always loved how Pogbas passes were always hit with the right weight to the right spot to make the recieving players next action easier. The best passers all do this

 

[RuudTom83]

I can see why the manager has pushed him higher up the pitch…So his lack of ball retention isn’t as big of an issue.

But his creativity from midfield is missed badly.

The Bruno we are seeing this season is almost the worst of him, no creativity and still giving the ball away.

 

[NZT-One]

I can see why the manager has pushed him higher up the pitch…So his lack of ball retention isn’t as big of an issue.

But his creativity from midfield is missed badly.

The Bruno we are seeing this season is almost the worst of him, no creativity and still giving the ball away.

Interesting take. Think he plays exactly the same as he ever did. Only difference is his starting position while pressing.

 

[matsdf]

Bruno is held to a much higher standard than the rest of our players. You’d think he was one of our worst players every game to read RedCafe when the reality is he’s very, very rarely outside of our top 5 performers in a given game.

Was fine again today. Definitely no worse than Rashford, Hojlund, Zirkzee, Garnacho, Antony, Eriksen, Casemiro or Mainoo

He genuinely has been this season. Do you remember one positive moment from him this season?

 

[kouroux]

Sometimes stats back up what you see and sometimes they don't give you full information. If you watched yesterday's game you'd say Bruno was at best just ok.

 

[Kingofwinners]

I don’t know what the path back from where we are to where we should be is. But persistent failures to address obvious problems like Bruno’s wastefulness of possession etc. tells me we aren’t on the path we need to be.

 

[MDFC Manager]

Sometimes stats back up what you see and sometimes they don't give you full information. If you watched yesterday's game you'd say Bruno was at best just ok.

Exactly this, and the frustration gets compounded when we know he won't be dropped regardless of what kind of performance he serves up

 

[RedStarUnited]

Aye, there was another one with Garnacho on the left when Bruno spread it wide to him from central midfield, wasn't a particularly long pass, but it forced Garnacho to slow and turn which stopped a quick break.

I remember this pass, We have a lot of these moments as a team by the way. Im constantly saying underneath my breath “thats a bad pass” because we are full of passes that kill momentum.

 

[DavelinaJolie]

I remember this pass, We have a lot of these moments as a team by the way. Im constantly saying underneath my breath “thats a bad pass” because we are full of passes that kill momentum.

The thing is, Bruno used to nail more of these passes and get us on the counter quickly. But of late he just looks done in and his passing accuracy (actual accuracy, not statistical) is falling off a cliff. It's brutal to see.

I'm in favour if giving him a couple of weeks off, because he's never going to get a break at this rate.

 

[Paddymcc]

Who remembers about the 29th minute he tried to backheel flick the ball in the middle of the pitch while there were 2 Villa players around him, instead of just retaining possession.

Villa then broke down our left hand side and but for a poor Barkley touch probably would have scored.

Utterly brain dead.

 

[Desert Eagle]

Who remembers about the 29th minute he tried to backheel flick the ball in the middle of the pitch while there were 2 Villa players around him, instead of just retaining possession.

Villa then broke down our left hand side and but for a poor Barkley touch probably would have scored.

Utterly brain dead.

Who remembers him.going for a halfway line shot in the fa cup final when we were defending for our lives against city in injury time?

The guy has no sense of game management or when to do what. He is the opposite of composed. Emotional ,careless and reckless.

 

[Woziak]

I genuinely think Bruno can not be allowed to play as a 10 anymore, he tends to play as an 8 for Portugal in a flat 3 midfield or at best one 6 and two 8’s where he has to be more careful with the ball, he has work rate and can be disciplined but he should be told his numbers right now don’t merit a free role at 10 or the Captaincy and Eriksen and Mount will be used as our attacking 10 right now.

I’d give the club captaincy to Johnny Evan’s and make Eriksen and Maguire both vice Captains, one of three will and should play so Bruno can concentrate on his game right now!

 

[acid_fuji]

Who remembers about the 29th minute he tried to backheel flick the ball in the middle of the pitch while there were 2 Villa players around him, instead of just retaining possession.

Villa then broke down our left hand side and but for a poor Barkley touch probably would have scored.

Utterly brain dead.

My eyes were bleeding watching this. Why can’t he make things simple ffs. I don’t see this happening in city or arsenal when they’re playing. Surely coaching teams suggests this to him as things to improve but he does not give a shit. The same way he does not care about pressing structure when he goes alone chasing keeper.

 

[Oscar Bonavena]

We haven't scored in 3 consecutive PL games, have a goal per game ratio of 0.7 and are the 2nd lowest goal scorers the league.

I'm sure it's not all Bruno's fault but he's been the one constant in this whole shambles. What possible harm could it do to try something different? Drop Bruno for 3 or 4 games and try Eriksen as a 10, Amad on the right, Rashford on the left (with Garnacho only coming on as sub) and Hojlund up front. See if we can create more chances from that set up.

Amad and Eriksen aren't interested in Hollywood passes, they'll always try to use the ball intelligently so I'm sure it would benefit Hojlund.

What has ten Hag got to lose, it can't be any worse than it currently is, surely?!!