[romufc]

The mind boggles with some of these posts. You can't pin a shitshow where the team concedes 4+ goals on any one player.

Its like people think every other player played well and we conceded those goals because of 1 player? Its just pathetic analysis, must be said.

Its good to see people bring up Jose and he didnt concede those goals, since Jose we also saw alot of goals, the Southampton results? Alot of 4-0's too where Bruno has been part of it too.

 

[Tom Van Persie]

Bruno has a problem with showing unnecessary petulance and micro aggression towards his own players. That's been a long trend. And his attitude on Sunday was absolutely shit and not United worthy let alone captaincy worthy.


His attitude in general this season has broadly been fine - but that doesn't mean we can't criticize him in the biggest game of our season.

Nobody has a problem with it when we're winning though. I didn't see Casemiro being criticized for "micro aggression" when he was having a go at Bruno during the celebrations last week. He was praised for his winning mentality and passion.

I've said it for ages, Bruno is a very emotional player. He wears his heart on his sleeve and sometimes that can be a negative. But he isn't selfish and definitely doesn't play for himself. That's just utter nonsense. There's a reason why three managers over the last two seasons have given him the armband.

 

[ash_86]

Exactly. Some of our "supporters" have really not covered themselves in glory this week. When one of our own is getting pelters we should get behind him and show him that Utd means UNITED. Ive been guilty of it myself in the past, especially with our other captain, I hold my hands up, but after the way the lads have gone above and beyond for most of this season, being totally run into the ground and still achieving, it doesnt sit well with me any more.

Mostly because many of the fans get their narrative set by social media. Worst time to be a fan of any club tbh. But yes, our season has been nothing sort of fantastic. There is a lot of leeway with the way we have been going about this season.

 

[Licha-Vidic]

"win just half of the games in the league"
Meanwhile: WWWWWWWDLWWWWDWDWWWWL

Bruno has been the best captain in Premier League this season.Your "analysis" makes zero sense.

Seems you don't believe it.

You like many other supporters, seems you guys don't believe how poor United have been or some players have been.


Appearances111


Wins 58

Losses 23

Draws 30

Goals 41

Assists 31

Goals per match 0.37

Headed goals 2

Penalties scored 14

Free kicks scored 1
Shots 307
Shots on target 117
Shooting accuracy 38%
Hit woodwork 9
Big chances missed 23

You can confirm it here
https://www.premierleague.com/players/23396/Bruno-Fernandes/stats

Bruno never misses any games. Compute 111/3 = 37 games. Exactly 3 season since his January transfer in 2020.

With him we can't play a flat 433, this is what has been exposing us ever since 2020. It's since that period we crumble in games every 3 months.

Stats are there, we can bury our heads in the sand but even Ten Hag has noticed it.

That's why you see Bruno being pushed to the wings, he loses the ball frequently, he doesn't hold the ball longer than 3 seconds when pressed, ( that's why you see he play acts alot when in 50/50 situations) he doesn't dribble the ball, he doesn't carry the ball forward if it's not a counter, he not physical for midfield battles.

He will run and run as it's the easiest thing to do in a field of play ( read Wout, Lingard) but when the going gets tough he will throw his hands up as he has nothing else to offer except Hollywood passes

I hope many fans will open their eyes and see.

He is the Maguire of our midfield.

I'm 100% sure Ten Hag will solve it. He has done it with Maguire be sure he will do it with Bruno also.

If Bruno is as big a burden as you describe why wasn’t he dropped in favour of Sancho or Garnacho?

To answer you even if it's was not directed to me..


1.Dropping Sancho/Garnacho is easier than dropping Bruno.

In that he has to find a place for Bruno in team as he's not sure where he's good at. Example.. as soon as Antony came back, Bruno is not considered for right wing. Or rather with Antony and Bruno in the team same time 100% Antony will be on right hand side.

So with Antony back + Rashford has to play, there are only 2 position left that Bruno can play. Number 10 and number 11.

He can't play number 9 as he doesn't hold the ball no matter what.

So Ten Hag made a decision not to play him as number 10 for the reasons I've said below.

Even number 11 position became a big disaster in Anfield for Bruno.



2. Ten Hag by playing WW as a 10, he wants a player who is calm on the ball, can bring others in to the game, can press well, can shield the ball well in midfield, minimal turnovers in midfield etc all which Bruno doesn't possess in abundance sadly.


You can see Ten Hag is unsure of his best position but Cafe posters act as if Bruno is the best thing ever.

Eventually we will move him on.

 

[VP89]

Nobody has a problem with it when we're winning though. I didn't see Casemiro being criticized for "micro aggression" when he was having a go at Bruno during the celebrations last week. He was praised for his winning mentality and passion.

I've said it for ages, Bruno is a very emotional player. He wears his heart on his sleeve and sometimes that can be a negative. But he isn't selfish and definitely doesn't play for himself. That's just utter nonsense. There's a reason why three managers over the last two seasons have given him the armband.

Untrue - it's been mentioned in numerous moments around the caf and on TV. It's also been put directly to Bruno in an interview by Rio Ferdinand before the game at Anfield when we were on a winning streak.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

What do you mean "worked"? That we were losing *only* 1-0?

You could always use a dictionary if you’re unsure what a word means?

 

[Fluctuation0161]

It worked for 45 minutes. And looked better and better as the first half wore on. Obviously the second half happened but if there was some sort of fundamental problem with the team he put out then it shouldn’t have taken that long to expose it.

Agreed. Fatigue is the main factor imo. Combined with a dash of poor mentality from some players, a hangover from the last couple of seasons.

 

[zenith]

Nothing wrong with bruno as captain. He's shown more than enough leadership in his time here. It's rather a captain he petulant than reluctant

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Agreed. Fatigue is the main factor imo. Combined with a dash of poor mentality from some players, a hangover from the last couple of seasons.

Yeah. We’ve basically all been waiting for the wheels to come off after our recent insane run of games. With a bit of a post trophy hangover in the mix too. Looked like it would happen against West Ham but we managed to turn that one round. Sod’s fecking law that our very next match was against our bitter rivals, with a point to prove and several days more rest, at a ground where we probably have a worse record than any other. Throw in an early injury to Casemiro and we had to endure the perfect storm.

Obviously, questions need to be asked about the extent of our collapse but a flat performance from the whole team is no surprise at all, nor is the fixture where we finally ran out of gas.

 

[Nou_Camp99]

All the moaning about team selection misses the point that the starting line-up probably got the better of the first half. Why did that happen if we were set up to fail?

First 25 mins we didn't get a kick. Wouldn't say it was a success at all. The shape of the team was awful.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

First 25 mins we didn't get a kick. Wouldn't say it was a success at all. The shape of the team was awful.

First 15 they blitzed us. Liverpool at Anfield. That’s always going to happen. After that we grew into the game and started to create some good situations. Their first goal was against the run of play. Shitty timing too. Really sucked the wind out of us. Likewise the next too. Everything that could go wrong did go wrong. But if the whole match had the same pattern as the first half then the score would have been very different.

 

[Licha-Vidic]

I sometimes wonder how can some of our fans come up with this nonsense...

In the last few years the hammerings we have received were not the fault of 1 player there are multiple factors that contributed, especially last season when we had no manger basically and we were all over the place.

Until the arrival of Casemiro and Martinez, Bruno has been, probably, the best transfer we've made since Van Persie, he had an instant impact and probably saved Ole's arse from that January onwards.

About his style, his antics on the pitch, his invisibility in derbies, there is much to debate, some of the fact are true, he will not win any Ballon D'ors and he will not be a Man Utd legend, but considering the shite we have been through since his arrival I think he was very good.

ETH made mistakes when we lost so heavily against City, Brentford or Pool but he is a smart manager and made us punch above our weight, if he sees Bruno as a captain, as a leader and as a undoubted starter I think he's right.

Let's imagine Bruno disappears starting tomorrow, who do we play instead? Weghorst? Sabitzer? Give me a break....

Nonsense because you don't believe in it.. should call your opinion also nonsense? Because I don't believe in it..

Argue like a adult for once, critic the place where it's wrong. Nowhere have you said any stats is wrong and attributes of his is wrong which I have said.

Take time and see, with Bruno we can't play 3 man midfield. This is the main cause of our problems.

Do you agree to that?

If not, that's why I back up my beliefs with data of how we are not in control of games, how we play counter Attack, how we get overrun in midfield etc.

Also he's the main stay in that team for the last 3 season except De Gea and Rashford.

Both who are not part of our midfield issues. We have Varane & Licha in defense but we have conceded more goals than last season at matchday 25. There is no Maguire Lindelof to blame anymore but we leak goals + chances alarmingly.

WESTHAM have conceded less goals than Man United this season

We have a new midfield pairings. Casemiro Eriksen Fred. But still we cant controll possession or dictate play.

Still we do sub 40% possession. 30% against City/Liverpool at OT, Newcastle Wembley 39%, Arsenal 39% OT.

We have a new coach, not Ole by the way but the symptoms of our midfield and play is still the same..

I will say it again,

Bruno is the Maguire of our midfield.

You remember how opinions were divided about Maguire, how he would some certain things well but wouldn't do others, that's Bruno in midfield.

When we will sign a Odergaard, as we signed Licha against Maguire, is when people will truly appreciate having a genuine midfielder means.

Between City Arsenal Liverpool where can Bruno play? If you're honest nowhere because he can't play in midfield 3.

Without a midfield three you can't win any championships in England. Carabao cups probably.

 

[VivaObertan]

Everyone was a disgrace, but this is a Bruno thread, and Bruno doesn't get a pass. Bruno was also the captain, he showed a lot more micro aggression (be it the linesman incident or toward his own players) and he outright stopped running in a couple key moments because he couldn't be fecked.

Posting some shit tweet about how he fessed up to fans in a game from an unrelated season is irrelevant to his conduct on sunday.

OK there are a few key things being called out;


1. He wanted to be subbed. Myth

2. He stopped running when Bajcetic went past him in the 88th (?) minute when we were 6-0 down. Who cares? Rashford did exactly the same thing on the left, TWICE, in the FIRST HALF against Newcastle in the final. Luke Shaw spent most of Sunday out of position so wasn't there to mark in the first place. I don't see the point in nit-picking when the whole team performance was bad.

3. He went down easily holding his face after being tapped in the chest. Replays show it WAS in the face, unlike Robertson's. Neville can go feck himself, sensationalising anything that is anti-United and playing down anything pro-United.

4. Showed micro-aggression, moment with linesman. It was silly, yes, but CAPTAINS do this stuff all the time and when they're losing. Keane, Vieira, Xhaka, Gerrard, Ronaldo, Messi, Ramos, Terry, etc. - how many of them have made emotional decisions to the detriment of the team?

5. He should not be captain after such a bad performance. It should be DDG, Varane, or Casemiro. Zero logic applied. They ALL lost 7-0 on Sunday, and I'd argue that 2 of the guys listed had a worse game than Bruno.


Sorry for singling out your post but this witch hunt is so, so, so dumb. I've never seen such a toxic fanbase in all of my life. When you lose 7-0, unless the GK is match fixing, it's a team problem and not an individual issue. Additionally, if you do want to call out individuals, there were worse performances in a United shirt than the make-shift left winger.

 

[hmchan]

Because he's the main creator for this side. Garnacho is a different player, a winger whom you want to isolate so he can run at defenders 1v1. Sancho has been a disappointment, this far.

I'm not arguing against his importance to this particular side. But, in all my time watching football, the only player whose contributions to his team were simply irreplaceable was Lionel Messi. It's funny how when it came to Ronaldo, most people could see the point many are trying to make. Perhaps, it was the interview or that he was acting like a petulant child all the time. Did Arsenal become a worse side when they shipped both their star goalscorers out in favour of Jesus?

Let's leave Bruno out of it for a moment. Imagine (not at United, at any club) your main goalscorer having a 30-goal season. 80% of these goals come from one or two preferred moves of his, and almost all of them come in transition. The whole team works so that he can get these goals because there aren't other pure goalscorers. The team, that aspires to win the league, continues to fall short of the 90-point bar that makes you a challenger by a considerable margin. Do you believe that this warrants at least a discussion about how the team should move forward? Should we keep doing the same thing, or should we change tactics to a more possession-based team which can lead to better goal distribution?

This is exactly how Arsenal turn from a side fighting for top 4 to a team fighting for the champion. They used to rely so heavily on Alexis, and after years of rebuilding they now finally look like a team. United fans love to live in the past, always thinking how good our players were used to be, turning a blind eye to their weaknesses. de Gea is a great example.

 

[hmchan]

Why do we have to make it complicated? Wout is the striker, Bruno behind him as AM, Rashford left, Antony right. Those are their best positions. It is simple.

ETH overcomplicated things, Bruno on the left, Rashford striker, Wout as AM. Did it work? Judging from the result, obviously not.

Because this isn't FIFA, players do not only in a specific position and receive a dropped rating when moved to another. There were multiple occassions where ten Hag lined up as you mentioned and didn't work, until he moved Rashford to central with Weghorst supporting from behind. The Leeds game was an obvious example.

 

[fergiewherearethou]

Nonsense because you don't believe in it.. should call your opinion also nonsense? Because I don't believe in it..

Argue like a adult for once, critic the place where it's wrong. Nowhere have you said any stats is wrong and attributes of his is wrong which I have said.

Take time and see, with Bruno we can't play 3 man midfield. This is the main cause of our problems.

Do you agree to that?

If not, that's why I back up my beliefs with data of how we are not in control of games, how we play counter Attack, how we get overrun in midfield etc.

Also he's the main stay in that team for the last 3 season except De Gea and Rashford.

Both who are not part of our midfield issues. We have Varane & Licha in defense but we have conceded more goals than last season at matchday 25. There is no Maguire Lindelof to blame anymore but we leak goals + chances alarmingly.

WESTHAM have conceded less goals than Man United this season

We have a new midfield pairings. Casemiro Eriksen Fred. But still we cant controll possession or dictate play.

Still we do sub 40% possession. 30% against City/Liverpool at OT, Newcastle Wembley 39%, Arsenal 39% OT.

We have a new coach, not Ole by the way but the symptoms of our midfield and play is still the same..

I will say it again,

Bruno is the Maguire of our midfield.

You remember how opinions were divided about Maguire, how he would some certain things well but wouldn't do others, that's Bruno in midfield.

When we will sign a Odergaard, as we signed Licha against Maguire, is when people will truly appreciate having a genuine midfielder means.

Between City Arsenal Liverpool where can Bruno play? If you're honest nowhere because he can't play in midfield 3.

Without a midfield three you can't win any championships in England. Carabao cups probably.

So, all of a sudden with ETH arrival you expect us to dominate possession against Pep and Klopp who are there for 7-8 years, won titles, CL, played CL finals and have established teams for a couple of years? Do you actually believe ETH is a miracle man ?
We have already beaten good teams: City, Pool, Arsenal, Barcelona, at home.
Improving us will take time and ETH is on the right track, with or without Bruno we are going forward, you have to understand that there isn't a better player than him in his position currently.

You are right about Bruno not being able to play in a midfield 3, but maybe that's not the plan, if City won titles playing a midfield 3 it does not mean everybody needs to play that way.

 

[hobbers]

Improving us will take time and ETH is on the right track, with or without Bruno we are going forward, you have to understand that there isn't a better player than him in his position currently.

That position now being on the wing. Since he seems to no longer have a place in any ETH midfield.

 

[united_99]

2 days later and I still don’t know what he has done what other senior players or captains or our own ex players or captains haven’t equally done.
All is good when we win. Bruno, my captain, this guy just gets it, we have so many leaders, look at Case asking Bruno why he didn’t pass to Sancho minutes after winning a trophy, awww that’s exactly what we need, …

We lose and all of a sudden let’s blame the guy who is wearing the armband. Yeah we need a scapegoat.
What did our great ex players or captains do in games we got trashed? Or in countless games where we got knocked out in CL or other cups?
What exactly have City captains/senior players done in the past in crucial CL games? What did they do exactly in the CL final against Chelsea? Did any of their players do anything when they were looking second best to Chelsea all game?
Which of their players took responsibility to prevent the amateur collapse in the dying minutes against Madrid last season? I can go on and on.
Players - yes even good and experienced ones - give up in certain games at times, moan, exaggerate contact, lose composure or control, etc.
It looks great when they succeed or come back after a mistake or after a glorious comeback (like we/Bruno did. against Barca and in other games), and it looks bad when there is a disappointing defeat.

And it’s rarely just one player - unless he stupidly gets himself sent off - several players need to take responsibility.

Or did United just give up in 99 because their captain missed the CL final? Or Chelsea when their captain got sent off and missed most of the semi plus the final in 2012? Again I could go on with examples.

Bruno is a model pro. Our ex captains were far from perfect. Keane had situations when he himself lost control, got himself sent off in crucial moments, etc.
Rooney was Rooney. Genius at times and at other times needed 10 games every season to get himself fit, had plenty headless chicken games, etc.

 

[TsuWave]

Bruno kind of reminds me of Rooney when he was washed up. In the sense that some people couldn’t bring themselves to criticise or have honest assessments of the guy, despite them being poor. A bunch of “whataboutisms”.

 

[VP89]

OK there are a few key things being called out;


1. He wanted to be subbed. Myth

2. He stopped running when Bajcetic went past him in the 88th (?) minute when we were 6-0 down. Who cares? Rashford did exactly the same thing on the left, TWICE, in the FIRST HALF against Newcastle in the final. Luke Shaw spent most of Sunday out of position so wasn't there to mark in the first place. I don't see the point in nit-picking when the whole team performance was bad.

3. He went down easily holding his face after being tapped in the chest. Replays show it WAS in the face, unlike Robertson's. Neville can go feck himself, sensationalising anything that is anti-United and playing down anything pro-United.

4. Showed micro-aggression, moment with linesman. It was silly, yes, but CAPTAINS do this stuff all the time and when they're losing. Keane, Vieira, Xhaka, Gerrard, Ronaldo, Messi, Ramos, Terry, etc. - how many of them have made emotional decisions to the detriment of the team?

5. He should not be captain after such a bad performance. It should be DDG, Varane, or Casemiro. Zero logic applied. They ALL lost 7-0 on Sunday, and I'd argue that 2 of the guys listed had a worse game than Bruno.


Sorry for singling out your post but this witch hunt is so, so, so dumb. I've never seen such a toxic fanbase in all of my life. When you lose 7-0, unless the GK is match fixing, it's a team problem and not an individual issue. Additionally, if you do want to call out individuals, there were worse performances in a United shirt than the make-shift left winger.

He played shit and as captain he handled himself poorly. Get over it.

This is a Bruno performance thread, he will get criticised when he's been shit and praised when he's good. That's how football works. There's no witch hunt from us.

 

[Jeppers7]

What annoys me more than anything about this Bruno slander since the weekend is the manager has to take most of the blame for playing him on the left wing.

It might not excuse his whining and playacting but the manager set us up to fail at the weekend. Anfield is no place to start experimenting. And I love this manager but he needs to have a good long hard look at himself too for those ridiculous tactics. Weghorst at 10 and Bruno on left didn't work at all. It was absolutely to the detriment of our team and also allowed Trent a free ride too.

Let's not make this about Bruno. The whole team was crap and so was the manager. The worst result in our entire history you could argue. Absolutely still fuming about it.

Are you not an advocate of players should be able to play anywhere? Doesn’t matter if he was played a little more out wide, etc etc. Do we need to build a tea, around him now in order for him to perform?

 

[TheRedDevil'sAdvocate]

This is exactly how Arsenal turn from a side fighting for top 4 to a team fighting for the champion. They used to rely so heavily on Alexis, and after years of rebuilding they now finally look like a team. United fans love to live in the past, always thinking how good our players were used to be, turning a blind eye to their weaknesses. de Gea is a great example.

For me, it's more a case of trying to see/understand a team sport through the lens of individual contributions. Key players x, y, z are the best we currently have at doing things a, b, c on the pitch. Then, for some reason, we should only add to them. But football isn't like boxing or track and field. What if key players x, y, z limit us to a certain style and narrow down our options with (or without) the ball? In other words, what if getting the best out of them never gets us over the line? We'll say it's OK and we'll keep adding periphery players, or we'll think of something different? Again, leaving Bruno out of it (because even the media our out for blood now, and that's disgusting), do people actually realize that, if we had swapped goalkeepers before the match, this scoreline would have never happened? Watch the game and see how they were constantly using Alisson to beat the high press. But apparently De Gea is a great shot stopper, and what would we do without his saves? There was a similar discussion about Pogba. How would we cope without his passing skills? The answer is, fine. Sometimes you have to take the risk and subtract a given quality to add/try something different. It's what managers do, really. Otherwise, there's no point in cursing Woodward and his "protect the assets" policy.

 

[Nou_Camp99]

Are you not an advocate of players should be able to play anywhere? Doesn’t matter if he was played a little more out wide, etc etc. Do we need to build a tea, around him now in order for him to perform?

Not really no. He can't play as a left winger. That didn't really need to be tried to tell us that and to do it at Anfield of all places was bizarre.

 

[redcucumber]

I think it's pretty telling when a player is universally despised not only by all of the opposition fans but also by a good chunk of the fans of his own club.

I insist on "despised" because it's certainly not about his footballing ability, he got plenty of that, but about his antics and pathetic behavior on the pitch, even by today's standards. Anyone who played a bit of football knows that he's exactly the type of player you just can't rely on when things go south. They will drag the team down by constantly moaning, complaining and simply give up at some point. They'll get on your nerves and make you lose yours, as well as your confidence. His attitude is poison and it's contagious, especially when you're chasing a game. He plays for himself not the team. I thought that Ten Hag would reign him a bit, but it seems that it's just who he is and he can't help himself.

How he ended up being captain or was even considered for the armband is beyond me.

Utter crap. Saying Bruno is "despised" by United fans is complete conjecture and purely done to overegg your point because you clearly have a thing against him.

 

[Who's Kissing Cameras?]

He’s been getting slaughtered in the media since Sunday. Hopefully this creates a siege mentality.

 

[E-mal]

I find his criticism unfair. He has the most minutes among all the outfield players, playing in different positions. I accept that he will continue to be erratic with his play and decision making, but his effort and passion cannot be questioned.

He is unfairly criticised but I will continue to play him and captain him until we have a better option either as captain or as a 10.

 

[That_Bloke]

Utter crap. Saying Bruno is "despised" by United fans is complete conjecture and purely done to overegg your point because you clearly have a thing against him.

Oh, I absolutely don't like him and I don't think my post ever hid it.

I think that he's a very good footballer, although lacking discipline, but his behavior on the pitch is absolutely off-putting, even for a lot MU fans. I've seen, read and heard enough to know that it isn't drivel like some here are implying. There are cheats, divers and whiners everywhere, but he's in a league of his own. And yes, his attitude has a very negative impact on the team when they're chasing a game. Even more so when he's the captain of said team. His meltdown against Liverpool wasn't his first, he has a history of losing it when things go badly. If you can't see it, there's nothing i can do for you.

I understand that it rubs you the wrong way though.

 

[fergiewherearethou]

That position now being on the wing. Since he seems to no longer have a place in any ETH midfield.

And Weghorst does?
Or maybe Bruno is used there because no one else is good enough to start, examples being Sancho or Garnacho?

 

[hobbers]

And Weghorst does?
Or maybe Bruno is used there because no one else is good enough to start, examples being Sancho or Garnacho?

Of course Weghorst shouldn't have any place in the team.

But if Erik rated Bruno's contributions from a deeper role he wouldn't be shoe horning Weghorst into Bruno's "best" position. We have way more available wingers than we have central players of late, and yet Bruno is being shifted out wide most of the time.

If ETH thought Bruno's work rate was ever useful he simply wouldn't be playing Weghorst as a defensive number 10.

 

[united_99]

Oh, I absolutely don't like him and I don't think my post ever hid it.

I think that he's a very good footballer, although lacking discipline, but his behavior on the pitch is absolutely off-putting, even for a lot MU fans. I've seen, read and heard enough to know that it isn't drivel like some here are implying. There are cheats, divers and whiners everywhere, but he's in a league of his own. And yes, his attitude has a very negative impact on the team when they're chasing a game. Even more so when he's the captain of said team. His meltdown against Liverpool wasn't his first, he has a history of losing it when things go badly. If you can't see it, there's nothing i can do for you.

I understand that it rubs you the wrong way though.

Long term most United fans won’t ever like a regular / starting player unless they win several league titles and the CL with us. And even then with some there’s no guarantee.
Some have already started turning on Case, didn’t take long.
Then just look at Rashford threads last season.
Most United fans however like / appreciate Bruno. Easy to get frustrated after such a result, but the mood and praise for Bruno here was the opposite after the Barca games or the league cup final.

 

[Ayush_reddevil]

Bruno witch hunt in the media is getting out of hand now. It’s also strange because if their main issue is not giving a shit then Bruno over the season would be the last guy to call out. I mean Rashford for example sleepwalks through a lot of games while Bruno in general is always trying to give his all

 

[Vapor trail]

I find his criticism unfair. He has the most minutes among all the outfield players, playing in different positions. I accept that he will continue to be erratic with his play and decision making, but his effort and passion cannot be questioned.

He is unfairly criticised but I will continue to play him and captain him until we have a better option either as captain or as a 10.

This is for me is what's not acceptable. The team chasing top 4 it's manageable in games (losing possession, wasteful passes, making poor judgements when to shoot / release the ball) but if the team want to win prestigious trophies he needs to improve his performances throughout the 90.

I think when it comes to attitude and temperament Bruno is a good captain. I don't see any players in the squad who rival this aside Casemiro who most likely isn't made captain due to his English and just having arrived in the league.

I don't think Bruno should be questioned and criticised for being captain, he should be questioned and criticised for his influence during phases of play / the build up. The only silver lining is within Fernandes making a frustrating performance after frustrating performance he always chimes in with a key pass or a goal to make up for it. But the higher you go up in competition level the more these nuisances become burdens.

 

[That_Bloke]

Long term most United fans won’t ever like a regular / starting player unless they win several league titles and the CL with us. And even then with some there’s no guarantee.
Some have already started turning on Case, didn’t take long.
Then just look at Rashford threads last season.
Most United fans however like / appreciate Bruno. Easy to get frustrated after such a result, but the mood and praise for Bruno here was the opposite after the Barca games or the league cup final.

Casemiro has been your signing of the season alongside Martinez and Eriksen who many derided before he even kicked a ball. Anyone who questions this should stop watching football. I also think that the Liverpool game is a one-off that should in no way bring Ten Hag's work into question. In my opinion the challenge for the title will be on next season at the latest. But you can't have players behaving like Bruno does, it undermines the team and the manager. It also reflects poorly on the club. I never was for witch hunting but he's been rightfully pummeled for his attitude. No one can in good faith defend his behavior on the pitch and I honestly think that he won't be captain next season and Ten Hag will bring in a direct competition to keep him on his toes.

 

[lex talionis]

Jaysus Christ the witch hunt is out of control!

It was a pretty evenly fought match in the first half, with United missing a few great chances and Liverpool taking the lead 1-0. The second half...the entire squad fell apart. Bruno had a poor game. I know of no one in the squad who can hold their head high and claim that they were great but Bruno was shit.

It's alright to still be angry at everyone two days later, but if you look back at the entirety of the season up to now Bruno has been one of our bright lights. We know about his strengths and weaknesses, and the weaknesses are frustrating, but he's a key player for us. That's not to say that he's exempt from criticism when he has a bad day, and when he makes a meal out of a feather being laid on him, but God's sake let's not be guilty of the same overreaction to the slightest infringement that Bruno himself is too often guilty of.

 

[Bebestation]

People cant shout at Rashford this season..

 

[united_99]

Casemiro has been your signing of the season alongside Martinez and Eriksen who many derided before he even kicked a ball. Anyone who questions this should stop watching football. I also think that the Liverpool game is a one-off that should in no way bring Ten Hag's work into question. In my opinion the challenge for the title will be on next season at the latest. But you can't have players behaving like Bruno does, it undermines the team and the manager. It also reflects poorly on the club. I never was for witch hunting but he's been rightfully pummeled for his attitude. No one can in good faith defend his behavior on the pitch and I honestly think that he won't be captain next season and Ten Hag will bring in a direct competition to keep him on his toes.

That’s what you want to believe. I couldn’t disagree more. Bruno is a great professional and the best option from our current players for captain.

 

[romufc]

Jaysus Christ the witch hunt is out of control!

It was a pretty evenly fought match in the first half, with United missing a few great chances and Liverpool taking the lead 1-0. The second half...the entire squad fell apart. Bruno had a poor game. I know of no one in the squad who can hold their head high and claim that they were great but Bruno was shit.

It's alright to still be angry at everyone two days later, but if you look back at the entirety of the season up to now Bruno has been one of our bright lights. We know about his strengths and weaknesses, and the weaknesses are frustrating, but he's a key player for us. That's not to say that he's exempt from criticism when he has a bad day, and when he makes a meal out of a feather being laid on him, but God's sake let's not be guilty of the same overreaction to the slightest infringement that Bruno himself is too often guilty of.

The thing is, we will always see such an outburst from a fan base who does not like Bruno. There are plenty of fans who want to see this and say "this is why we better of without him". Yes, he had a bad game, made worse by Neville shaming him for things he didn't do.

I have seen many many players go down holding their face with minimal contact, Bruno is not the only one to do this. Robertson done it in the same game.

Bruno is played by the manager, who backs him, which means he must see something in him to almost use him every minute of every game.

Even the most robust player gets tired, tired legs brings out the worst in players, its not easy to be at 100% sharpness when you are jaded.

 

[flappyjay]

Is it true he has played 90 minutes of every match and the one match he didn't start he played 45 minutes in that game.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Is it true he has played 90 minutes of every match and the one match he didn't start he played 45 minutes in that game.

He was banned for one match, after 5 yellow cards. Otherwise, yeah, that sounds about right.

 

[duffer]

Is it true he has played 90 minutes of every match and the one match he didn't start he played 45 minutes in that game.

In the league yes.