No captain material. Sit him out on the bench for a couple of games to regain mental and physical fitness and give the captaincy to Varane
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It is a fair question. Who did well vs Liverpool? If they were all terrible, then it is very hard to justify why we must single out one player.
That’s because Mourinho played absolutely dog shite park the bus football. It was forbidden for more than 5 players to ever step into the opponents half at any one time. It’s easy to avoid hammerings with such negative football.
Why is there always this ongoing bafflement about a player performance thread only containing critique of the player in the title?
Several Bruno stans come into a Bruno thread after a 7-0 rout and complain as if he's being singled out. Clearly haven't checked the Casemiro, Shaw, Dalot, Weghorst, De Gea or (god forbid) the Antony threads.
I hope he gets a brace on Thursday...the reactions have been so over the top, just makes me want him to be the first name on the team sheet.
I don't know if people lost their minds. So now you can't speak about a specific player's performance in their performance thread?
He's not being singled out, other players have received criticism in their threads. This is the Bruno thread. He was criminally poor against Liverpool.
I can accept poor performances, you just make the analysis and move on. I know there’s plenty on here can’t accept that Bruno has poor performances but that’s another story.I don't know if people lost their minds. So now you can't speak about a specific player's performance in their performance thread?
He's not being singled out, other players have received criticism in their threads. This is the Bruno thread. He was criminally poor against Liverpool.
What I can’t accept, and what I’m actually shocked about, is the acceptance of Bruno’s behaviour on Sunday. I’ve never seen such a shockingly poor and unprofessional attitude from a United player. I cited Neil Webb and Di Maria perhaps as examples but even then, it wasn’t once on Sunday it was constant for most of the second half.
We’ve had players like Maguire and McT slated for simple poor performances, really bad but still just poor performances, players slated for getting tackled.
If Bruno, or any other United player acted as he did on Sunday in the midst of a brilliant performance in a game we won 7-0 I’d still say it was equally as disgraceful. I really don’t know what Bruno has done to deserve being allowed to act in such a way and not be extremely heavily criticised.
That said I imagine ETH was fine with it.
Some truly bizarre takes about Bruno’s positioning going on. He’s being shunted around simply because we do not have an effective striker atm. The manager is moving him around to accommodate others because he is the most versatile and willing.
There’s no way he gets shifted around like he has if Martial had been fit this whole time, he’d be at 10 where he should be. When Martial, Rashford, Eriksen and Antony are fit and available, Bruno will be in his natural position that is pretty much guaranteed.
There’s no way he gets shifted around like he has if Martial had been fit this whole time, he’d be at 10 where he should be. When Martial, Rashford, Eriksen and Antony are fit and available, Bruno will be in his natural position that is pretty much guaranteed.
He’s getting absolute pelters in the media and it’s being echoed here too. That is the difference between him and the other players.I don't know if people lost their minds. So now you can't speak about a specific player's performance in their performance thread?
He's not being singled out, other players have received criticism in their threads. This is the Bruno thread. He was criminally poor against Liverpool.
It's shameful when you see fans defending Bruno by saying some other players were worse. Everyone was terrible but he was the apparent one who gave up, hence the singling out. If you think the captain can get a pass because there were worse performers, you're as much a disgrace as Bruno himself, this is not United standard.
but he has been slated - relentlessly (and deservedly, in my opinion.)
I’m not sure he’s one of the best - I guess it depends how we define that. But he’s definitely one of our best and has enough credit to his name to try and put this right.
Yes, he had a bad performance.. no one has every denied that. I see from your old posts you are bitter about him getting more plaudits than Pogba.
We know Bruno wears his heart on his sleeve, I am not defending him for the Liverpool game. This notion that he was the only reason we lost 7-0 is pathetic. Because you found a clip of him not tracking a few times = everyone stops playing? Is that what it is? If Bruno doesnt track the other 10 players should give up?
I think it will be interesting when he has more competition for his position. Will be interesting when we move to the type of football thats controls the game, whether that will be able to accommodate Bruno with or without the ball.
Of course he is - he's one of the most in-form players in Europe this season.
I don't think Bruno's performance reflects well on him, but nothing he did is outside of the norm for how footballers act. Nothing Bruno did let the team down more or was more unprofessional than, for example, Gerrard getting himself sent off within 40 seconds of being subbed on for stamping on Herrera, or Neville getting himself sent off for diving in the box against City and headbutting Steve McManaman.
The backlash is hyperbolic, driven by the fact that we got hammered, fans are hurting and the media is keen to rub salt into open wounds. The section of our fan base which loves nothing more than supporting opposition fans in attacking our own players/club is an embarrassment, frankly.
The backlash is hyperbolic, driven by the fact that we got hammered, fans are hurting and the media is keen to rub salt into open wounds. The section of our fan base which loves nothing more than supporting opposition fans in attacking our own players/club is an embarrassment, frankly.
Most in form while
In the league he has 5 goals, (1 is a penalty). 6 assist. In 24 games.
Europa he has 1 assist in 8 games.
Carabao cup he has 2 goals 1 assist in 5 games.
Total 37 games 7 goals 8 assist. = 15 G/A in 37 games
Eriksen has more assist (7) in the league and has not played for over a month now. 19 games.
Europa 2 assist in 6 games.
Carabao 1 goal in 4 games.
Total 29 games, 2 goals 9 assist. = 11 G/A in 29 games.
If that's the most in-form then I rest my case.
Who actually said "Bruno was the only reason we lost 7-0"?
Not talking about performance, everyone has bad performances. Not everyone does what Bruno did on Sunday in terms of behaviour.
as for your last point...no obviously if Bruno gives up several times in one half, the other 10 players should do his work for him.
It's funny how the detractors always point to 'stat padding' when trying to downplay Bruno's abilities and now doing the complete opposite by pointing to stats as proof he's no good.Most in form while
In the league he has 5 goals, (1 is a penalty). 6 assist. In 24 games.
Europa he has 1 assist in 8 games.
Carabao cup he has 2 goals 1 assist in 5 games.
Total 37 games 7 goals 8 assist. = 15 G/A in 37 games
Eriksen has more assist (7) in the league and has not played for over a month now. 19 games.
Europa 2 assist in 6 games.
Carabao 1 goal in 4 games.
Total 29 games, 2 goals 9 assist. = 11 G/A in 29 games.
If that's the most in-form then I rest my case.
You've had a series of bad posts in this thread in the last few days, it's been pretty embarrassing tbh.
So in your opinion, sir. Tell me like a 5 year old how Bruno is one of the most in-form player in Europe this season?
Please don't refuse to reply...
Wait, isn't Rashford standing still during the entirety of that attack?
Surely, he can cover for Bruno?
We need to move on. It's actually quite hilarious to attack Bruno for his lack of effort when you consider his best characteristic is the amount of ground he covers.
Exactly, of all the players that actually puts a proper shift in 99 times out of a 100 it's Bruno FFS. Going after for him for the one occasion where he's not running around like an absolute dog reeks of a pile on.
I don't know if people lost their minds. So now you can't speak about a specific player's performance in their performance thread?
He's not being singled out, other players have received criticism in their threads. This is the Bruno thread. He was criminally poor against Liverpool.
How long will you keep crying about his performance? We have a game tomorrow and we're still going on about a loss that took place over 3 days ago.
In what way? Bruno is known to be petulant, he does that whether we win or lose.
The whole team including the manager were to blame for the Liverpool loss, no one from the Manutd side can say they were anything but rubbish in everything they did.
I didn't make that claim, I was simply responding to the basic premise of your response – and prior posts in the thread – which have been a pretty bad use of stats to use as a stick to beat Bruno with.
In particular, your posts about his win % since he arrived. So bizarre given we are talking about a team sport and he has been one of our better performers during that time, so to try and pin that % on him is absolutely nuts to me. Everyone was been in agreement that we have been miles off the top teams over the past 5 years or so, this guy actually came in and improved us a lot.
He may not be part of the team when EtH gets his final vision in place in a year or so, but to suggest the manager is already shifting him out is also bizarre. He plays nearly every minute of every game, as our captain, and you think the manager wants shot of him? Madness.
Most in form while
In the league he has 5 goals, (1 is a penalty). 6 assist. In 24 games.
Europa he has 1 assist in 8 games.
Carabao cup he has 2 goals 1 assist in 5 games.
Total 37 games 7 goals 8 assist. = 15 G/A in 37 games
Eriksen has more assist (7) in the league and has not played for over a month now. 19 games.
Europa 2 assist in 6 games.
Carabao 1 goal in 4 games.
Total 29 games, 2 goals 9 assist. = 11 G/A in 29 games.
If that's the most in-form then I rest my case.
These stats are just goal/assists... don't paint the full picture. His performances have been as good as anybody in Europe.
I am sure its fans like you who make up twitter clips of our players who have a bad day. I have seen some posts and one which was really really good in showing how to be one sided bias.
We didnt get hammered under Jose... okay fine but can you also show how many times under Jose we won 4-0? in comparison how many times we did that post Jose, with Bruno in the team?
This season we have lost 4-0, 6-3, 7-0 with EtH as manager, are you Ten Hag out then too?
I hope Ten Hag rests Bruno against Betis. Let him get a rest, cool down and refocus and then he can be back against Southhampton and hopefully be back to his best. We need that.
did Verane perform on Sunday?
Bruno is 3rd in the league for chances createdMost in form while
In the league he has 5 goals, (1 is a penalty). 6 assist. In 24 games.
Europa he has 1 assist in 8 games.
Carabao cup he has 2 goals 1 assist in 5 games.
Total 37 games 7 goals 8 assist. = 15 G/A in 37 games
Eriksen has more assist (7) in the league and has not played for over a month now. 19 games.
Europa 2 assist in 6 games.
Carabao 1 goal in 4 games.
Total 29 games, 2 goals 9 assist. = 11 G/A in 29 games.
If that's the most in-form then I rest my case.
Perform better no. Better attitude? Absolutely. Varane was the one forcing our players down to thank the fans.
FBREF stats are probably the best out there to put the quality of our players in context with the best of Europe.
I’d be curious to know if we have any other players in our squad with so many metrics above the 90th centile?
Equally curious to know if there’s another player in Europe who has his combination of creative and defensive output, as per these metrics. Yet here he is, being slated for not working hard enough in defence. Amazing.
I’d be curious to know if we have any other players in our squad with so many metrics above the 90th centile?
Equally curious to know if there’s another player in Europe who has his combination of creative and defensive output, as per these metrics. Yet here he is, being slated for not working hard enough in defence. Amazing.
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Got no problem with people attacking his petulance - but to attack his performances/work rate this season is astonishing.
he doesn't take people on, carry the ball or pass accurately. Everyone wants an Iniesta. I am open to a more skillfull, careful Spanish style midfielder but keep Bruno also
Yep, it's crazy. I do think though his petulance/behaviour is what make him the player he is at the same time. It's almost like he needs to work himself up into a frenzy
It works both ways. It was his behaviour and reaction to the goal against City that won us the three points.
He’s a really unusual player. Hard to think of any others that have his combination of strengths and weaknesses. I do agree that it’s tricky to find the best way to use him but ETH has been using him very effectively so far this season. We’re having a good season (once we got over our initial wobbles) and Bruno has been a key player in this. Add a top class number 9 and our season could easily have gone from good to great. The idea that Bruno’s suddenly a huge problem after one horrendous team performance is, of course, absurd. So we can ignore the empty-headed bleating from the usual suspects who didn’t darken this thread throughout almost all of our excellent recent run of results, including a lot of very good performances from Bruno.
I dont even think its an issue given we have Sabitzer now. When Eriksen returns we will have 3 very different types of players who can offer different types of playmaking. And given how versatile they all 3 are in which position to play I dont see an issue performance wise.
I agree, I think he's the most paradoxical player I've seen.
He's the worst passer in general, but also the most likely to produce a genius through-ball that nobody else sees.
He's one of the hardest workers on our team, yet also one of the most likely to down tools with the going gets really tough.
He scores when you expect him to miss and misses when you expect him to score (although to be fair, you can also say this of all our other forwards)
I can't really describe this guy. Great talent but so uncontrolled.
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