Thats reaching to be honest. We still don’t know what this ETH team will look like him in the team.
Not saying it will definitely be a positive, we just don’t know yet.
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Not saying it will definitely be a positive, we just don’t know yet.
Not sure if you're being dumb or just blinded by your love of Bruno, but you are the one who claimed every game he didnt play was a shambles. Which is in itself was clearly a stupid point to make but is also incorrect.
He didn't play in any of those 4 games he was ill or suspended.
So you're trying to make a point based on one humiliating defeat and I'm countering with twelve.
The narrative about him asking to be subbed off is weird. Not seen anything to corroborate this so I'm fairly sure it was just bollocks from Neville who clearly doesn't like him.
Well then you’re skipping out a bunch of games in which he didn’t start, we were shit, and improved when he was subbed on.
Your twelve vs one counter is dumb as feck, by the way, for reasons explained above
Play nice lads.
He absolutely is good enough but that performance was diabolical in every way. I’d sit him for a game or two.
So he didn’t ask to get subbed nor attack a lineman
On Bruno pushing the linesman, this was a good watch. How the linesman first stopped Bruno... I think was nothing.
you have some gall I'll give you that.No. Your original point is dumb as feck because you tried to claim we're terrible without Bruno based on one result in 2 years.
He plays every game so he plays in every hammering. No shit. He was also a total embarrassment as a captain and individual player in a lot of those hammerings. He's been a constant in our post Mourinho downfall.
It was complete bollocks. Neville was as much a disgrace to the club he is a legend of yesterday as any of the players on the pitch.
Indeed. It's bizarre. They've been starved of it for so long and out they come as soon as we have a shit result.
No. Your original point is dumb as feck because you tried to claim we're terrible without Bruno based on one result in 2 years.
He plays every game so he plays in every hammering. No shit. He was also a total embarrassment as a captain and individual player in a lot of those hammerings. He's been a constant in our post Mourinho downfall.
No. I said we’re terrible without Bruno because we have played badly every single time Bruno doesn’t start. Which is what actually happened. And has feck all to do with your weird notion that the fact he was also on the pitch during another 12 bad performances over the last two years is somehow relevant to this claim.
The only reason I would not have Bruno in the team is if a rest will help him get recharged. Otherwise it doesn't make any sense to kick him out when his replacements are not good enough.
( I’d include more smilies but mods don’t like it)Stan’s having a full on meltdown today. Our record without Bruno in the several years he’s been here :-
L 1-3
W 3-0
W 3-1
W 3-2
D 1-1
W 1-0
W 3-0
W 2-1
W 1-0
W 2-1
L 0-3
11 games 8 wins 1 draw 2 defeats, GS 20 GA 12
About as consistent as how you judge players.
Should not be our captain again, worst captain ever.
I mean there's stanning and then there's stanning.
Since you seem incapable of posting rationally or taking in this basic information go and look up the games yourself. Then you can come back and explain why you drew that daft conclusion based on one solitary defeat in the last two seasons.
Nah, Maguire is worse.
20 goals, 8 wins out of 11. Couldn’t make this guy up.Bruno was shit yesterday, but I can’t believe the lame attacks by Neville and fans on him. He was clearly caught on the chin (regardless of what extent) and there was absolutely zero sign of him showing he wanted to come off. He looked like he was asking who is meant to be coming off as it wasn’t clear, which can clearly be seen by Rashford’s pause before walking off.
I find Maguire a lot more captain material than Bruno.
But would prefer Varane or Casemiro.
First time I’ve seen that. That’s unforgivable.
Stan’s having a full on meltdown today. Our record without Bruno in the several years he’s been here :-
L 1-3
W 3-0
W 3-1
W 3-2
D 1-1
W 1-0
W 3-0
W 2-1
W 1-0
W 2-1
L 0-3
11 games 8 wins 1 draw 2 defeats, GS 20 GA 12
About as consistent as how you judge players.
Do you have the list of opponents too? Just curious.
Is it relevant? Poster claimed 100% consistency in games Bruno didn’t play were a shitshow? These are 100% of the games
Bruno was petulant, and I'm sure ETH would've made him apologize to the dressing room as captain. But I found Neville's comments far more unprofessional, and he lost his head more than Bruno. He got personal.
Everyone was garbage yesterday but he’s been made the scapegoat because he’s default captain. Opposition fans and media/pundits give our club and players enough shit without our own fans joining the witch-hunt. He’s not captain material but the situation has arisen because the actual club captain is 4th choice in his position. With additions in the summer and playing in his favoured position he has plenty to offer.
Yeah it's interesting we've done so well without him, I was just wondering what teams we've played.
United have played him into the ground since he came to England and ETH is taking it to a new level.
Its very rare for PL midfielders to go over 4000 minutes in all comps, the game is so fast paced and physically demanding. Even a player like Jordan Henderson has only done that once in his career, KDB once since coming to England, Bernardo Silva once since coming to England, David Silva never, Ozil never, Fabinho never, Kante did it twice then broke down, etc.
Bruno did 4303 in 19-20 (partly in Portugal), 4585 in 20-21, 3861 in 21-22, and has 3503 so far this year with potentially another 2000 possible minutes to play if United keep going in the cups.
Ten Hag will have to make some decisions about rotation. I don't think you can play a PL midfielder 5000+ minutes without him being a shadow of himself by the end or just physically breaking down, and that's already coming on the heels of a massive usage rate over the last three seasons.
Its very rare for PL midfielders to go over 4000 minutes in all comps, the game is so fast paced and physically demanding. Even a player like Jordan Henderson has only done that once in his career, KDB once since coming to England, Bernardo Silva once since coming to England, David Silva never, Ozil never, Fabinho never, Kante did it twice then broke down, etc.
Bruno did 4303 in 19-20 (partly in Portugal), 4585 in 20-21, 3861 in 21-22, and has 3503 so far this year with potentially another 2000 possible minutes to play if United keep going in the cups.
Ten Hag will have to make some decisions about rotation. I don't think you can play a PL midfielder 5000+ minutes without him being a shadow of himself by the end or just physically breaking down, and that's already coming on the heels of a massive usage rate over the last three seasons.
The wins include Spurs, Burnley, Brighton, Wolves, Watford and Man City (was league cup we still lost the overall tie).
Doesn't include the 5-0 win over Leipzig either because Bruno came on for the last 20 minutes of that.
It’s not relevant at all, in the context of the post I replied to….so let’s get that straight before we move on and context is lost.
Villa A
Charlton H
Young Boys A
Burnley H
Spurs H
Wolves A
Watford H
Brighton A
Lask H
Lask A
Man City A
We haven’t done so well without him, though. As I keep saying, in games where he’s rested he almost always ends up coming off the bench and having a big influence. It’s similar with Rashford. Typically in cup games against weaker opposition. So posting results from games he didn’t start tells us nothing about what happened during those games.
I think at this point if Bruno can't handle getting blasted in private by his manager after all of the success we've already had, then we might as well bin him off in the summer anyways. So yes I think he should hammer Bruno, Shaw, and the others that lost their heads. But we all know it was also a bit of a one off, and after hammering them you just remind these guys to keep composure as a team.
The Bruno shit can't happen though. He can't be wearing the armband and be a supposed leader on the team and put out that kind of attitude in the second half. He's done similar shit before, and ETH needs to nip it in the bud because it will cost us games.
Some games in the youth team should do
Didn’t play a single minute in any of the games quoted.Subbed on in 4 games since 2021 https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/bruno-fernandes/leistungsdaten/spieler/240306/plus/1?saison=2021
And what other games apart from Liverpool at home in 20/21 season?
He’s played too many minutes out of necessity, I think a lot of the comments from media and fans about him have been harsh, he’s given everything to the club since he’s been here. He needs a rest and he needs to be backed by supporters which I’m sure he will be.
Hes going to be out of the 11 next season
Posting results from games he did start also apparently tells us nothing, all very convenient. Logic completely out the window with you.
Your memory is also seriously faulty. He was brought on as a sub twice in the last two seasons and didnt affect either result (2-0 over Villareal, 0-1 vs wolves).
Against West Ham och Sociedad too, lost 1-0 both.
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